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Roz last won the day on August 9 2014

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    Ex-7th Day Adventist. Once the main chuch pianist, now properly dis-fellowshipped. Still getting the 'come back to the fold, surrender to god!' messages from family and friends.

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  • Still have any Gods? If so, who or what?
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  1. And Vishnu bless this Den, for it's in this place that we see the true nature of christians come to light.
  2. Did you ever consider the reason we would want to treat each other with grace is specifically because of what you have just written? That in order to validate their existence and shortcomings (sin), that we can either write rules for everyone to follow...like the Old Testament, or we could practice grace and love through a relationship? Sound familiar dumbass? I've said it time and again, you're the shining paragon of your god. You're the one who most closely resembles his true nature. The god of both the old and new testaments (remember, revelation's in the NT...) is all appa
  3. Why is it that the apologists for yaweh can't ever get their stories straight?

  4. We're all people, even ones with PHDs and/or MDs next to their name. We have a lot of limitations. If you really were a man who runs a lab, you'd know the scientific method is really just a method. However, it's you who came to this board professing your god. Your god who you professed is omnipotent. When humans aren't able to help you with your shit, it might well be that we're not able to. When your god isn't helping you despite you praying to him -and he's omnipotent-, then he's able to but just not willing. Which of the two is evil?
  5. A few more examples of how End's god establishes relationships between human beings: Thanks be to jeshitwa for giving his followers these words to follow: http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has b
  6. End's god is good, and this is who he seeks for guidance, counsel, and emulates to the best of his ability.
  7. Yet still another example of how End's god establishes relationships for humans to follow: Rev 14 14 I looked, and there before me was a white cloud, and seated on the cloud was one like a son of man[b] with a crown of gold on his head and a sharp sickle in his hand. 15 Then another angel came out of the temple and called in a loud voice to him who was sitting on the cloud, “Take your sickle and reap, because the time to reap has come, for the harvest of the earth is ripe.” 16 So he who was seated on the cloud swung his sickle over the earth, and the earth was harvested. 17 Another angel ca
  8. Yet still another example of how End's god establishes relationships for humans to follow: Matt 10 34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn “‘a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law— 36 a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’[c] 37 “Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
  9. Since End clearly wants to use the bible to prove the bible's contents: Still another example of how (god instituted) relationships to work to benefit (god's chosen ones): Lev: 25 The Lord said to Moses at Mount Sinai, 2 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: 44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and
  10. Just on to make the point that whatever points of RO Wololo is claiming to adhere to does not fit with what RO actually stands for. The 2 videos I've linked has the major figures of RO explaining the 'myth of the secular.' We do not need any form of religion to influence any facet of government. While Wololo is on record that he's for separation of church and state RO (in the John Millbank video) does not. This is not a minor RO point but one of its core beliefs. Another of his points that strike me. Wol stated that for him, "His (jesus') divinity is certainly questionable."
  11. And oh one last thing: "People do not die as martyrs for things they know are lies." Whether or not the martyrs took ideas as either truth or lies is not the issue. People die for many causes they believe to be true all the time. That has no weight or basis on the question: is the idea itself true or not? This is what we've been trying to explain to you for quite some time, but clearly it's taking a while to sink in.
  12. And this is particularly laughable: "What I'm not doing is throwing the Bible out the window because it was written by fallible men." No one here throws out any piece of religious text because we see them for what they are. Texts that humans wrote without any deity intervention needed at all. You're the only one here that keeps placing his own holy book in a pedestal. Here's where you begin to unravel: "Aesop's fables are very interesting. The difficulty with those is that they are not an attempt to simulate reality. They are merely stories where the author intended to convey a
  13. All those sentences and sentence fragments just to basically say: "I'm a deist that still clings to the name of christianity." I'm wondering why you call yourself a christian at all? You like some of jesus' object lessons, but you don't believe 100% that he was the jewish god's son. You don't take the bible as the word of god at all. And yet this: "The Bible has done its job very well. It has set the groundwork for my principles and morality. It has convinced me of my problems (that are many), and provided a potential solution...which I have found to be quite effective." It real
  14. "If you've studied Islam, then can you name some points as to why you rejected the religion." Saying that you are presently studying Islam is only a partial answer.
  15. To IH, here Matt is proposing another purpose as to why your god created the banana. It fits, so it must be true.
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