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Castiel233

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    I don't know if god is real or not, but the evidence that he listens to prayers and cares for the earth appears to be very very weak

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  1. What I hate about cultists: First off they are often very very creepy. Not content with ruining their own lives, they have a burning need to ruin the lives of others. They do this by promoting their beliefs in an number of ways: 1-Bait and Switch (God loves you, but you are going to Hell) 2-Copy and pasting from other pro cult websites 3-Making outlandish claims, and then ignoring any push backs or questions that cannot be answered. Wash/Rinse and Repeat. We are told that we just need to read the Bible, we just need to pray more, we just need to open up more to God and then the Holy Ghost will enter us. And if we do these things and The Holy Ghost doesn't enter us, well, then, we are just shit out of luck!!!! God's ways are not our ways. Rebuttals: Facts are always the best, I find when dealing with the Tin Hat(e) brigade, so let's jump right in....... The numbers game: There are about 2 billion Christians of various stripes, many of whom disagree with other denominations About 2 billion Muslims, and that number is rising Around a billion Hindus Then the numbers start to drop down into the hundreds of millions for the other, jews, Sikhs, etc But to the cultists, they and they alone have THE TRUTH. Which is laughable However, let us deal with Christianity itself. How does one go to Heaven........ You must give up ALL that you have. Our current poster, James L has a bike and a tent and a fondness for movies and sports, so obviously this guy cannot be a true believer, he is still wedded to Earthly things. No matter, what does the Bible say about how easy it is to get to Heaven: God, the creator of evil who lives in darkness, will: Send you a strong delusion so that you will believe lies Harden your heart Speak in riddles so that you might nor understand. These teachings are all in the Bible, yet without a hint of shame, cultists come onto this site, where they are not welcome and have the AUDACITY to claim that God is love and Christianity is easy. If only we BELIEVED a bit harder. Ok then: Which Bible shall we read Which parts are literal or not To believers , as long as you God has sent you the Holy Spirit, you just "know". Again, no Holy Spirit, well it sucks to be you, no matter how much you kneel and beg. The Bible has been shown to be false in its history and crucially, it's supernatural claims. Can believers perform supernatural feats via intercessory prayer. Of course not. I work in a hospital, someone has a heart attack, the crash team come running, no minister has ever come and healed them, or raised them back to life, although the Bible says that they can. If true, the Bible would marry up to reality, but it doesn't. Note, how God needs people to carry the load. At any time, God could send an angel to us, he could appear to us. Instead, he sends Bicycle Boy and his tent of justice. Again, note the sheer arrogance of posters, who uses words like, "a storm is coming" and this is going to be "massive" At any time, God could give us a sign, instead we get randoms on the internet. If one could wind JamesL life back to an infant, place him with Muslims parents in a Muslim country, he would be defending ALLAH on Ex-Muslim. How insecure are believers, that they must come on here and mouth off. I never go onto to their websites and copy and paste links to Robert Green Ingersoll or Thomas Paine. Their arrogance and hatred of others blinds them. If Christianity is true, then there should be plenty of evidence and no doubt, instead we have bad evidence and lots of doubt. There are nearly 8 billion people on Earth, yet we are told there is a single invisible being (in three parts) , watching them and reading their thoughts (in all different languages to boot) 24/7. This is madness and counter to common sense. If prayer makes you happy, then I am all for it, 100 percent, even as a placebo. What I am not all for, is for sinister cultish weirdos, preying on vulnerable and damaged people. These people are groomers and it is sick. No wonder that religion and sex offences go hand in hand. When extreme believers come on here, they just come across as both desperate for attention and very very unhinged. Why doesn't JamesL climb into a lion's enclosure and read the Bible, now that would be MASSIVE, until he got eaten. Why doesn't he swim with crocodiles under the protection of Jesus. Why doesn't he throw himself of a cliff and ask God to carry him to safety.....he can't, BECAUSE SUPERNATURAL CLAIMS ARE FALSE. If religion was merely false, well it wouldn't be so much of a concern, but it has caused more murder, misery and mayhem then anything else.
  2. Maybe he eats the bike and the next day a new bike is Risen, for all things are possible with God!!
  3. Give up the bike, give up the tent and don't dumpster dive or take anything from anyone or any source, I'll give it a week before you die of thirst. Sit under a tree and wait for god to come to you No one is stopping you. You die and you get to live with Jesus, What a WIN!!!! What on Earth are you waiting for...... So they burnt money that could have been used for the sick and elderly to prove that they love god. Why didn't they let snakes bite them to prove that they would not be harmed. Is it because they would die. My days, you really are a special kind of stupid.
  4. Well........ Many of us have been harmed by Christianity by its sheer madness and we want to reduce the harm it does to others. If I can help one other person from becoming mentally ill over Christianity, then it is worth it. Christians who claim that atheists push back because they secretly believe see no problem with Christians pushing back against Islam. Do Christians secretly believe in Allah.....
  5. EVERYONE is an atheist concerning other gods.
  6. I want to be called an astronaut!!!
  7. Hope you have the 100 percent correct theology old chap. 99.9999999999999 percent will not cut it. Yahweh the merciless DEMANDS perfection. A bit like that kid in the "Twilight Zone", who forced EVERYONE to think happy thoughts all the time...OR ELSE. 3000 Gods throughout human history. You disbelieve in 2999 of them and we just add an extra one. You are almost there, old chap, almost.
  8. I believe that you believe this, but I don't believe it is true. What is the very very basics of Christianity theology. Well I think it is that you should both fear AND love the Lord will ALL your strength and mind and heart. I think that is impossible. i really do. Love AND fear is just ridiculous, one or the other, surely. Then Jesus tells you to hate your family and yourself and give away ALL that you have. Some Christians do, I will grant, give up all that they have, but they are a tiny minority. I love my wife and my family, trying to force myself to hate them and instead to try and believe myself in love with a murderous , invisible being would cause me extreme mental anguish. To love something you cannot see until after you die in place of your family that loves and supports you is not a healthy mindset. That way lays to the road of madness. What do you mean , "go from there". how do you make God happy, I am sincerely curious.
  9. 1- The Christian God, I assume, rather than the Islamic one 2-If you were born in Iran, you would fear Allah 3-Is the Christian God real, prayers do not work, all early characters in the Bible are not mentioned outside of the Bible. despite the very best efforts of Jewish experts ( and they have certainly been searching) there is no evidence of the Mose great walk in the desert. 4-Evidence for Noah's flood is zero 5-God is not the author of confusion,yet He does send delusions, yet another Biblical contradiction. Does God want ALL to be saved, yes says the Bible, no says the Bible. 6-Christians have had 2000 years to prove their claims, they haven't yet and will not in the future. 7-A religion that tells you to live in fear, police your thoughts, give away all that you have and requests that you hate yourself and you family and threatens to hurt you AFTER you die if you don't tick all the contradictory boxes is laughable. 8-100's of billions of people have lived and died without even hearing of Jesus, please do not live in fear of Him. They didn't. 9-I always have a simple challenge your Christians. Ask God via prayer what book is in front of me and let me know. Not a single one even replies.....because they know perfectly well that prayer doesn't work, despite the Bible promises that it does.
  10. Serial killer, rapes and murders at will, mocks and insults Christianity, last 10 seconds of his life, he devotes it to Jesus, goes to Heaven. Nun, spends her entire life, working and living in poverty, giving all that she has to her faith. Finally decides she no longer believes it, has a heart attack 10 seconds later , goes to Hell. This is INSANE
  11. JesusChristian are (as I understand it) linked to the "A voice in the desert" videos on You Tube Another brainwashing cult that wants you to give it all up for rewards after you die. *Sigh* How to tell if you are in a cult: Does it ask you to turn your back on your loved ones, give up all that you have and trust in the beloved leader who has the ear of God. If yes...... YOU ARE IN A CULT
  12. Most of us assume human life has existed for millions if not billions of years, and that it will probably continue to exist for many millions, if not billions, more. In the face of that, our tiny lives become so overwhelmingly insignificant that we succumb to a life of unthinking conformity along with all of the other billions of meaningless ants that populate this planet. But when we do this, we are confusing time with eternity. Evolutionary teaching has created this unreal picture of human life. All the unsubstantiated talk about billions of years gives the impression that not only the planet itself is eternal, but so is human existence. Even the most ardent evolutionist cannot, however, dispute the fact that recorded human history extends back barely six thousand years from today. Evolution science has been backed up time and time again by real scientists doing real science, some of whom are Christians. Calling it an unreal picture is laughable. same as the age of the Earth and the age of the universe. Billions of years. There is plenty of scientific evidence, again, researched and accepted by real scientists, some of whom are Christians. The fact that record human history extends back barely six thousand years has no bearing on the "truth" of the Bible. Think about what that means: It means that the very first human beings to leave historic record of their existence lived only six thousand years ago. Just six thousand years ago. Think about that. If you live to be even sixty years old, you will have experienced one percent of the entire recorded history of the human race, from Adam and Eve, or whoever you like to think our first parents were, to the present. Our generation is one of less than 200 that have ever lived here on earth. What we say and do is an important part of human history. But far more significant than that, because the earth's population has been increasing exponentially all this time, the present generation - that is the present population of the earth - represents something like one quarter of all the people who have ever lived on earth. What we say and do in terms of changing the direction of history is not insignificant. Whatever the reason for human existence, one quarter of us are right here now to hear the answer if anyone has it, and if anyone has what it takes to communicate that answer to the rest of us. Meaningless waffle, population grows, history is real, means nothing in the context of Jesus being His own Dad. The Bible says that, with God, there is very little difference between a day and a thousand years. That is because God lives in eternity... the place where billions of years have meaning and are very real. But we humans live in time and space, where a few thousand years can tell the whole story. The Bible says a lot of things, shove her off (The Simpsons). The Bible is filled with so much garbage of which believers never read, never know or dare not preach or repeat. Human existence on earth is not eternal. In the face of eternity, it is only just getting started. And it may be almost finished before it barely got started. In fact, what we are experiencing right now may be nothing more than a flash in the pan, a tiny little experiment in the light of eternity, to see how we human beings will handle freedom and the responsibility that goes with it. Somewhere outside of this dimension that we call time, there is an eternal purpose, an eternal plan; and our whole purpose for being on earth is to see if we will look for and follow that plan. Sheer assertions, backed up with no evidence. If you find a bulldozer sitting in your front lawn when you wake up in the morning, you will just naturally look for an explanation for its existence. You won't try to pretend that it is not there. And having found ourselves on this planet, we too should be looking for an explanation. Science is looking for those explanations, a pro rape, pro slavery with talking animals book will never offer those answers. The explanation is there in Jesus Christ and all that he taught. God put us here to love one another and to see if we would give up all that we have for his promise of eternal life. It is only our stubborn rebellion against God that makes us refuse the teachings of Jesus, and invent religious rituals and philosophies instead. The clue of the website here is in the name, ex Christian, meaning that we , once like you , believed in the gobbly-gook you are selling, been there, done that, some of us, including me, tried to sell it to others. God put us here to love one another AND to see if we would give up all that we have (including our own families). Seems like you are painting yourself into a corner here, old chap. But we don't even have to wait another thousand years to discover the stupidity of that approach. In another fifty or a hundred years we will all be dead. Every last one of us. And we'll be standing before the Creator of all that we call life, trying to tell him why we refused to fall on our knees before his Son, and accept the message of faith and love that he came to bring to the human race. Are you ready for such an encounter? Again, mere assertion. We will stand in front of our Creator because a magic book says so. Again, been there, done that. Nice use of the passive aggressive threat though. Why not accept what Jesus said today instead! Many of us did, for years. Jesus promised He would answer prayers. He does not. Jesus Promised to be right back. He was not. Jesus Promised that you could drink poison , be bitten by snakes without harm and that we could literally lift up mountains. We can not. I work in a hospital, the amount of patients I have seen raised from the dead or cured from cancer via prayer or the anointing of oils , is zero. Been zero for years, will be zero for years to come. You are in a cult and like all cult victims, you cannot, or will not see it.
  13. In the old days, they could and did imprison, torture and murder us. Utterly destroy us and have us written from history. Now, they are reduced to arguing via the internet and special pleading for their awful doctrines to be believed.
  14. Going to Hell is easy, just be born and God, in his love, wisdom and mercy, will give you a front row forever ticket. You don't even have to earn it, it is, (to borrow a phrase) an automatic enrollment. Heaven on the other hand.... Well..... Narrow is the gate and few shall find it, Jesus talks in parables so that many will hear and not understand. Add to that different Bibles, different denominations, etc and you are well and truly screwed. And let us not us forget that the Bible says you have to be PERFECT in god's eyes. If the Bible is true and 99.99999 % of folks are going "downstairs".................... It seems to me to be a waste to beg and plead and sob to an invisible being for mercy, when he will not grant it. If the Bible is false and 100 percent of folks just die and go nowhere. It seems to me to be a waste to beg and plead and sob. Salvation fails either way
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