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    After 26 years of processing and reinventing history to fit the old book and being treated as a total doormat for living the life of a Matthew Chapter 5 "Christian"... and not understanding why I was treated with such disrespect... especially by the church folks.. and still "staying" with the church for many years...I was able to rewrite my whole mental operating system after forming these three words in my mind "god is imaginary".... and.... all of a sudden.. the way folks behave made total sense to me for the first time in my life. Just like the earth travels around the sun.. and not the otherway around. An adult life of anxiety just simply disappeared... I still have my last bottle of prescription medication from three years ago. Zero anxiety... and so much happiness. I now have 35 or so years left to REALLY LIVE!!!

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  1. ConsiderTheSource

    Do you ever feel stupid about how long it took?

    I am with you Jace. 25 years not fully lived. 25 years I can not get back. BUT, I found my way out 8 years ago. I have been living every day to its fullest. The journey is not without its difficulties, but so worth it. Would love to share coffee and talk you through it, but it is not likely you live near Oregon.
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    Do you ever wish you could grow up ''normally''?

    Yes. But, this is not an easy decision. By saying Yes I am saying I want the 25 lost years of my life back, but, at the price of having zero experiential empathy for those stuck in the greatest mindfuck, and thus ending up being less caring of a person then I am right now. I would choose gaining the 25 years.
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    Annoyed by Christians

    MOHO, they are masters of the art of passive aggressiveness. Grrrrrrrr.
  4. It is always about them. Always. Remember, they program their folks to believe that anyone who leave "the faith" never believed in the first place. We have no value to them because we never were them. No matter how many years or tears we spilled when we spent so much time with them.
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    Religion switches off your inner voice.

    Lydie and Rachel, I strongly recommended the path I took on this. It has worked wonders in my life and has pretty much banished all of those old programmed thoughts they put in my head. Recommendation: Think long, hard, and carefully to determine what YOUR unique moral code is. What YOU really care about. Commit it to on your Facebook page, or other public space. By doing this you are filling "that spot" with what is truly moral, valuable, and important to YOU. It will become quite hard to violate because it is of yourself. Here is my moral/life statement. It is what determines all of my decisions, and all of my interactions with others. Most importantly, it allowed me to completely dump all of the church programmed knowledge that was in my brain: "I care about facts, empathy, and treating all people fairly".
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    I just feel sad about everything..

    Sadness is very close to empathy. There is no greater human virtue than having true empathy.
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    Newbie to the exChristian world

    "Everything I had ever been taught & raised was "right" was suddenly a bunch of lies. Anyone else feel this way?" The folks above have given you great advice. I would just be repeating. I now have been free for nearly 8 years. The first couple years are the hardest....and the fact that your legacy church relationships will have zero empathy for what you are feeling/experience compounds it all. But, it is definately worth. Finally, don't be surprised by your anger when a legacy church relationship tells you someday that you really never believed in the first place...that you "never truly believed". This is what they are told by leadership to allow them to dismiss you and your change of beliefs. They have no clue how painful these words are.
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    Things Fundies Say On Facebook

    You need a new religion/belief set if you really believe god would allow the death of children because his feelings were hurt.
  9. It is always about them. Always.
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    #metoo have rejected it again.
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    I gave it to you. You rejected it.
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    Wow. You really don't get that I am on your side for this issue, do you? I have you telling me that I am being too easy, and another commenter telling me I am being too hard. So, I am guessing I am in the correct zone with my thoughts. Get real. Tell me how this gets fixed in the criminal justice system, or anywhere else, when it is just oner person's word against another? Answer: It doesn't. But, if 2, 3, 4, etc come forward then you have strong statistical based evidence. Resolution in favor of the victim should happen. Ignoring when there are multiple victims can not be tolerated.
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    Wow. Yes, there is the occasional odd ball exception. Are you really going to stand on this and deny the victims any reasonable way to enforce their greivances??? Really? Sounds a lot like the "You can't prove god does exist, so he must exist" argument if you ask me". My child was sexually abused by his Sunday School Teacher. So were the two children in another family. When multiple victims come forward something need to be done, and quickly, before there are more victims. But, in 1990, their was no effective process. I am glad times are changing for the better. #metoo
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    One accuser vs one accused is clearly subject to a need for additional evidence. We can't make it possible for anyone to damage anyone with an unsubstantiated claim. But, nither should the person making the claim suffer negative consequences for coming forward. Now, when we reach 2, 3, 4 etc accusers the evidence of abuse becomes statistically overwhelming quite quickly, especially when paired with other outside evidence.
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    Um, yeah, True Scotman I do concur with your comment. Fully. But, I do not appreciate you quoting me out of context and slandering me. I made it very clear, abundantly clear, that I was concerned only with the comments in this thread. I never once said not enough evidence for the women making claims in the #metoo movement. If you doubt my sincerity go back and read my past comments about this topic, the rape of my child, and the treatment of my daughter. There is evidence. The statistical evidence is huge, based on multiple experiences being recounted by multiple victims against a minor discrete subset of individual. It is this nonrandom pattern, combined with multiple individual witnesses to multiple discrete "encounters" that make it the accusations "facts". These people were harmed, and it is unreasonable to demand they destroy their careers and income just to be casted aside and not have anything change.