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    After 26 years of processing and reinventing history to fit the old book and being treated as a total doormat for living the life of a Matthew Chapter 5 "Christian"... and not understanding why I was treated with such disrespect... especially by the church folks.. and still "staying" with the church for many years...I was able to rewrite my whole mental operating system after forming these three words in my mind "god is imaginary".... and.... all of a sudden.. the way folks behave made total sense to me for the first time in my life. Just like the earth travels around the sun.. and not the otherway around. An adult life of anxiety just simply disappeared... I still have my last bottle of prescription medication from three years ago. Zero anxiety... and so much happiness. I now have 35 or so years left to REALLY LIVE!!!

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  1. Going forward, never forget "It is always about THEM. Always. Unless you reflect THEM, nothing will change. Your "wants" are totally not relevant to THEM. It is not about you. It will never be about you. It will always be about THEM. Emparhy, honest true empathy, is something they will likely never have. You need to decide who you are going to love and respect the most. THEM, or yourself. In my opinion, you seem to be the most valuable human in this bunch. Got lots of hugs waiting for you in Oregon.
  2. Absent credible evidence supporting your conjectures/conclusion, the answer is yes.
  3. OK, so, what you are processing with is "science like". You are not claiming that you are using the scientific method. No one is allowed the privilege to suspend pieces of the scientific method and still describe their results as "science".
  4. Such a big trigger for me too. They get a hold of a young person's mind, a mind maybe predisposed to reality and critical thinking, and mess up their entire mental operating system. I did not escape fully until i reached age 50. Yes, what Fuego said. Please do all you can to save your kids from this mind-fuck, the greatest ever invented by man.
  5.  Have you changed your mind? What sdelsolray said. You said you wanted to be a "good scientist", and valued truth....the scientific variety heavily implied. Did you change your mind, or just lied? Or, are you just so damn unique and special as to not be bound by the science of statistical probability? Or maybe the most likely senario involves self delusion.
  6. I concur that you do not have to explain why "some" prayers go unanswered. But, you do have to explain why all valid scientific statistical studies of the impact of prayer, outside of the placebo effect, show zero correlation between prayer and desired prayer outcomes before you can rationally claim prayer, and not some effective ramdomness, caused some positive result.
  7. It is at the point where the mighty art of apologetics can only "fix" these issues only with the most ridiculous of "what if" senarios. The time has come for them to seek out Marty McFly, Doc Brown; taking the Delorean, firing up the flux capacitors, and going back to 4000 B.C. to repair the narrative.
  8. We are so on the same page.
  9. I hope this means they harshly attacked your ideas/thought/conclusion; and not your existance/personhood.
  10. Such is the power, love, and compassion of the church, and their families. This poor person did nothing that actual impacts anyone else in any way. Yet, so much punishment. So much vile. So much hate. The church lacks both empathy and morality.
  11. It is always about them. Always. As long as his natural desires conflict with the religious mindfuck he is under this behavior will continue. He will keep seeking outside source to move "blame" from himself onto the outside source. He see you as a safe outside source to transfer his guilt to. A mental garbage dump ground. Are you gaining value and joy by serving as his blame landfill? I doubt it. Do not accept his mental garbage. Make him find some other external place to dump.
  12. It was not the sermon. It is him, and the Evangelical programming/Mind Fuck. When it comes to Evangelicals, is always about them. ALWAYS. By making you "less than" is all about him. Get far away from any relationship where the other party lacks empathy.
  13. Same here. When I fully realized that god was imaginary my mind literally rewrote its "operation system", how it understands the world around it. I have experienced near complete mental coherence in the 9 years since. The days of cognitive dissonance banished. Life is so much better now.
  14. Welcome to Ex-C Dice. I/we "get" you. Based on what you have said. I sincerely doubt you are ashamed of your non belief. Afterall, you have been free from it all for over ten years. I am just completing my ninth year. More likely, you are just simply concerned with the consequences, social, family, or otherwise. For as long as you value these realtionships more than unfiltered discourse limiting your responses seems like simply an intelligent thing to do. Yet, your feelings are still very real, and valid in these situations. Religion, especially the Abrahamic religions, are the grestest mindfuck ever invented by man. What your church family and friends are unable to grasp is empathy. Instead of gaining empathy they consider others "less than" simply because their life experience does not match their own. Everyone deserves the unfettered space and respect to express their life. You understand this. They likely never will.