Survey of men in Totally Off Topic Posted June 26, 2018 · Report reply 14 hours ago, ToHellWithMe said: I'm not sure if I understood you correctly, but taking this at face value makes it seems a tad unfair. Let's say there's a danger somewhere and people are very careful because of it. The consequent lack of massive casualties isn't evidence that there isn't a massive danger or that anyone's fear is unwarranted. If there is a problem within our rules, it's not like anyone has to become a victim before you can determine that there's a problem. To try to clarify, I was attempting to outline something like a pragmatic principle and not an absolute truth. If there's an obvious problem with a rule and a clear solution then by all means fix the rule immediately. If there's a very unambiguous danger associated with some institutional policy, and reasonable ways of trying to address it, then it should be addressed. But, I don't think end's post really raises any issues with that level of specificity or certainty. He says people might do this or might do that, but there's no reason given to suppose that any of those things are at all likely. The pragmatic principle I have in mind is that it's there's a lot of drawbacks to proposing strictly defined rules and bureaucracy in the absence of some actual need for them. I think it's basically inevitable that rules will fail to account for every possible thing that might or could happen, and it's usually pretty painful to try to make them do so. Slippery slope fallacies are not really very useful here. That doesn't mean there are no cases where proposed rules have clear and obvious problems. There definitely are. I can imagine workplace policies that someone might propose in response to #metoo that I would oppose along these lines. But I can only be bothered to worry so much about things that haven't happened unless I have a reason to believe those things are likely to happen. What I was pushing back against in that post was the failure to actually argue that any of the things he was worried about were likely.