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    If you are interested in reading books that will assist with your deconversion I recommend the bible.

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  1. Josh, The place can be invaluable assisting you with learning about yourself. There are some really smart folks here, I am NOT one of them, and they are willing to take on your doubts and provide information. All I can provide, beyond my own experiences, are references to books that have helped clarify and/or solidify what I already felt. Bart Ehrman is useful for studying the origins of the books in the Bible. He actually taught himself to read Greek so he could read the Black Sea Scrolls and determine that the Bible, as we know it today, was changed, altered, redacted, lied about etc. numerous times over the centuries. Richard Dawkins is helpful to sort out all of the conflicting crap that you hear from apologists and pastor's ass-hat et al. Richard Carrier is also helpful is this arena but users more recent facts and real life scenarios. When you are past the point of no return you simply MUST read Marlene Winell's Leaving the Fold. This will help you get past the sorrow of losing your sky daddy and help you to reclaim your life from the harmful effects of the cult.
  2. Incidentally when I quoted Mr. Marx's quote to Mrs. MOHO (scream'n fundamentalist) she quipped "See how horrible Communists are!?" "No, Dear. He meant leaders can use religion to quell and control people. Kinda like the Gran Old...er...never mind..." Then again that other party is using BLM kinda like a religion too, eh? And I don't mean the Borough of Land Management.
  3. @Josh19, You stated in your post that you gave up the drug 8 years ago but your profile indicates you still believe in the Bible god and Jesus. Please clarify... - MOHO
  4. Welcome to ex-C, @BarnOwl Congratulations on finding your way out of the mind control. Also a programmer. I wonder if our profession has had an impact on our deconverstion. We must test our code and it better damn well react the same way each time! Unlike praying, eh? - MOHO (Mind Of His Own)
  5. yes. Yes I did. I attended the First and Not Last Church of the Benevolent Grape Juice God.
  6. Welcome to the forums, @CherryTreeLane. Hope to read more from you. For the sake of those considering leaving the fold or who may just be questioning their faith there is no reason to change political parties or morph into a being other than you - sans harmful religion. Yes, the Moral Majority hijacked the GOP back in the 70's but both parties (too bad there's only two) have both positive and negative properties and both good and bad people. Do they agree with his mentality, assuming here that you are referring to his brash, shoot from the hip, insulting mannerisms, or are "they" simply resolving themselves to the fact that this is all they have at the moment to mitigate what they feel are harmful policies coming from across the isle? OK. I'll shut up about that now. Congrats on thinking your way out of the mind control. That's tough when you were indoctrinated at such a young age. Many of us, including old MOHO, can attest to that. I am sorry for your marital experiences. No one should ever harm another unless they are begin harmed by someone and there is no other escape but to defend oneself. Finding a set of beliefs that are aligned with you own set of values is all well and good - just be certain you are not trading one structured lifestyle for another. - MOHO (Mind Of His Own)
  7. Welcome to the forums, @NowIamFree. I too found the doctrine and scripture to be unbelievable and more likely to be the works of ancient control freaks than any loving, caring deity. No issues with church or the members as believers like to insinuate...well...except for being unable to sit though a sermon w/out rolling my eyes and knitting my eyebrows, I'm sure quite noticeably, even before I finally admitted my disbelief. Glad you found us and many here can relate to your screen name. - MOHO (Mind Of His Own)
  8. Yes, I have sir! My fams do this vehemently! They have absolutely NO CLUE what psychology is but will trash it as Satan's tool because "pastor says" The husband of Mrs. MOHO"s new friend is a practicing psychologist who is devout as is his wife. I wonder what cognitive dissonance for her will come of that?
  9. You better believe it! Imagine my shock and horror when Mrs. MOHO joined the youth ministry at her church and proclaim her "blessing" and "opportunity" to "bring the work to the young ones before Satan gets to them". We're talking 4 & 5 year olds here! This is not only child abuse but, through their efforts to ensure that the little ones grow up with the same thought processes, it may also be form of fascism.
  10. Welcome to Ex-C, @alreadyGone. Glad you found us. You articulated what so many here have gone through and are going through when they lose their religion. The associated emotions and disruptions in one's life have also caused some to re-embrace the doctrine. I cannot imagine doing so and assume that those "go back" never really do so - they just hope, like so many in the pews, that they will truly "believe" some day. Personally I think the need to believe in a higher power is tied to a need for mommy and daddy which is likely a survival thing. - MOHO (Mind Of His Own)
  11. Let it go, big guy. The shitty upbringing, toxic religion, and crappy father only impact you if you let them. Focus on study, take the exam, ace the sucker, and you will make a bitchen EMT! Now focus on saving lives! This is what you were meant to do!
  12. I think about this. Everything else is so good though. If I could only remove fundyness.
  13. Sunday priesthood in the early AM then Sunday School an hour later. Not so bad in and of itself but we spent all day Saturday working in the yard so losing the entire weekend sucked. This was especially annoying as I sensed my father's weekish approach to the Mormon doctrine. Aerospace engineer he was so I'm guessing his otherwise logic oriented thought processes had something to do with that. His apathy likely motivated some of my questioning. Different topic that. I am married to that person. Annoying when logic and reason is countered with the condescending response of simply barking my name in a loud an authoritarian tone.
  14. In regards to the "keeping the peace" topic. As many of you know I am the self appointed VP of the unequally yoked club. I have come out to the fams and do NOT attend church. I remain silent during family prayers and dot say ah 'men or whateverthehell one is obligated to say. Mrs. MOHO sends me Biblical shit a few times a week I which summarily ignore and resist the urge to reply with logic/reason/atheist blurb etc as there is no reason to go there. However, if she tried to "persuade" me to attend services via anything other than a simple and occasional invitation, or if there was any real pressure whatsoever from any of the fams to reconvert, or if any of them was even the slightest bit cold to me because of my lack of belief, they would be excommunicated from my life and I would move out and file for divorce. Keeping the peace is anything but when the effort is more than simple courtesy.
  15. Hey, @Krowb. Welcome to Ex-C! Thank you for your post. Many of us empathize with the reluctance to "come out" as a non-believer. I, for example, live and work in the bible belt of the Pacific Northwest and frequently am cowed a bit. Even though I have come out to my family and Christian friends there is still that underlying feeling. I dare say I see this in other realms of life - not just religion. One must also be on high alert in some areas of Oregon if you divulge any "conservative" values such as being pro-commerce and supportive of the police. Nevertheless, and although I "preach" ripping off the band-aid when it comes to coming out, I am sensitive to situations where discretion is prudent. My stepson is a successful business man and has the same attitude. I notice that he will abandon his duties to his business(s) to play fundy-xtian - a trait that I, and possibly his clients, do not appreciate. He even fired a successful salesman as he was "sinning too much". This translates to the employee not bending over for my stepson. I mean that figuratively of course. So, is Mrs. Krowb in or out of xanity? Not clear unless I'm just being obtuse. You're a bigger man than I! It's a huge help having this forum for social/moral (sorry) support when deconverting and dealing with fundies. I'm an introvert and don't' really need human interaction as much as "normal" folk but it sure is handy to come here and "talk" to like-minded individuals. Hope to read more from you... - MOHO (Mind Of His Own)
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