Riven

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    ex-sheep, ex-lay leader, ex-worship leader, ex-everything. Trying to find out who I am, now that the guilt and shame are gone. (Can I really watch Game of Thrones without being judged now? Answer: YES!) I'm a writer and publisher who loves the outdoors and traveling. My part-time job is recovering from 25 years of evangelical mind control. Your turn! Reach out and say hi!

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  1. “One of the most amazing and perplexing features of mainstream Christianity is that seminarians who learn the historical-critical method in their Bible classes appear to forget all about it when it comes time for them to be pastors. They are taught critical approaches to Scripture, they learn about the discrepancies and contradictions, they discover all sorts of historical errors and mistakes, they come to realize that it is difficult to know whether Moses existed or what Jesus actually said and did, they find that there are other books that were at one time considered canonical but that ultimately did not become part of Scripture (for example, other Gospels and Apocalypses), they come to recognize that a good number of the books of the Bible are pseudonymous (for example, written in the name of an apostle by someone else), that in fact we don't have the original copies of any of the biblical books but only copies made centuries later, all of which have been altered. They learn all of this, and yet when they enter church ministry they appear to put it back on the shelf. For reasons I will explore in the conclusion, pastors are, as a rule, reluctant to teach what they learned about the Bible in seminary.”
    Bart D. Ehrman, Jesus, Interrupted: Revealing the Hidden Contradictions in the Bible & Why We Don't Know About Them
     
    And this my friends, is why the masses in the church, down through the ages, know nothing about the historical origins of their so-called "sacred, god-breathed" scripture they deify as the fourth member of the trinity.
    1. sdelsolray

      sdelsolray

      Ehrman's observation is accurate and insightful.  I would add that there are many preachers, pastors and similar "I am the authority" hucksters that have not spent years to earn college degrees in theology or related fields, and have invested no time whatsoever with/in/around schools of learning.

    2. Riven

      Riven

      True! I'm sure they have no problem finding devotees, either. 🙄