DarkBishop

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    Living in the foothills of the Appalachians in good ole Georgia
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    I am a new ExChristian deeply wounded at this point by my experience. I am happy to be a part of this community and look forward to talking to people who have/and are going through the same troubles that I am experiencing now.

    Being raised a Christian I was indoctrinated with very strong foundations in Christianity. In my teenage years I rebelled, practiced wicca for awhile, but eventually received "salvation" when I was 22. When I devoted my life to Christ I was on fire for God and eventually answered what I felt was the call to preach. I preached for ten years, had a radio ministry at one point, Did street ministry, was awana commander in one church, eventually was ordained a Bishop in the Church of God, the Gospel assembly(hence the screen name DarkBishop), and later was made assistant pastor at one of their churches.

    Its a long story but eventually I began to question my faith and back slid into sin. I tried for 4 years to reorganize my thoughts to a point that I felt I could go back to church but couldn't. My faith never came back.

    When my son made mention that he thought the bible was BS I tried to search for archeological evidence to prove stories from the bible and was greatly disappointed that there was none for the specific event I was looking for. This lead to other searches on the God EL who was the original God of the Israelites. that was when I found out that the original mythology of EL included a whole pantheon of other Gods and Goddesses.

    This destroyed what little faith I had left. I still believe in something. I just don't know what and I highly doubt any religion on earth knows either. To say the least at this point I am spiritually Broken.

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  • Still have any Gods? If so, who or what?
    I feel that there is something n no one knows what

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  1. History of the 'F' Word

    well aint this a fuckin awesome thread!!!
  2. Jonah and the whale

    ooooo i feel your pain. i'm off the hook for church now tho. my wife has found a church to go to close by and two of my kids go with her. Me and my athiest son who is also a member of ex-c get to stay behind for a much needed late morning nap :-) that one is on my list of most absurd biblical stories as well. right along with the creation, tower of babel, and the flood of Noah.
  3. Does Hell Scare You....It Does Me

    End, Hell is only a tool that has been used for thousands of years now to control people. The old testament didn't even reflect a hell as we know it today. That didn't come along until the assholes that wrote the new testament. So NO I dont fear Hell as it doesn't exist. However if you put yourself in the shoes of someone who lived back in that time and was influenced by greek mythology and their Hades then it is easy to accept Hell under a monotheistic religion. Obviously hell which is supposed to be beneath the earths surface is a fiery pit, i'm sure most people in the area knew what a volcano was. and that molten hot lava flowed from them. These are all just Stories and myths that evolved over time. I am not one that has totally turned my back on some sort of supernatural possibility or that there may be a soul. The odds are that there isn't. I hope that there is. But what I do know beyond a shadow of a doubt is that the bible is a book of lies, half truths, and filled with deception. It is filled with ancient political motivation. They used the power of belief and tweaked these stories to rally the people behind them for various purposes just as they do with us today with the news. And scripture for that matter. Even after thousands of years preachers still interpret the scripture in whatever way they see fit to push their personal beliefs on the congregation. Early in the deconversion process I realized that if there was one God and he wrote one book then there shouldn't be millions of different denominations all preaching different doctrines from the same book inspired by the same God. Now that I am an outsider looking in at the scripture I can see it for what it really is now. I hope this helps. Good luck my friend. Dark Bishop edit: I should also add that if there is anything after death then no man made religion knows what that thing is. guess we will know for sure when we embark on that great last journey of death ourselves.
  4. Christians against Masturbation

    Was that for real? I bet that woman does it. I call BS.
  5. After a year

    well the reason she doesn't want me to frequent this site is that she thinks all of you are drawing me away from the "truth" of the bible. but i have told her that that is just not the case. I came here because i felt alone in my new deconversion and i found this site for people who have been through the same thing that I have. I'm starting to wander if she is questioning also tho because of some of the things she has said. I can only hope so. but we shall see i guess.
  6. After a year

    thank you logical. you guys have all been a huge help in this process. i honestly dont know how it would have turned out if i hadn't come across this community. Hopefully before to much longer i will be able to be a regular again. I would really like to get to the point where i can donate to the cause because i believe in this community and i believe in it's purpose. But good things come in time i here.
  7. After a year

    Hey guys, Figured I would give you all an update and let you know i"m still alive LOL. It has been almost exactly a year since my deconversion and I can truly say it has been a ride..... sometimes rough sometimes not. But like it has been pointed out before on other threads it is a lot like grieving a lost loved one. I went through all the stages of grief and have finally accepted my new reality. I dont know if acceptance is the best term because I accepted the truth when it was presented to me in my searches. But It took a long time to become comfortable with that truth and to feel like I was me again. I unfortunately haven't been able to be as active on the group as I would have liked to have been during this time because the deconversion affected my relationship with my family.... especially my wife who is still a believer. It has been rough but I think she is finally starting to realize that I still love her an i'm not going to become an adulterer just because i dont believe anymore. I feel like we are growing closer again sometimes as we were before. For awhile there it was touch and go and I was very worried that divorce was in my near furture. Thankfully I think we are past that point and are in the stages of rebuilding our relationship around the fact that I no longer believe in the christian God. One thing that i think helps is that I'm not fully athiest I am agnostic. I still believe in the possibility of something but have accepted that all man made religions are only that. man made religions. I also told her that if i ever came across concrete evidence that supported the biblical account that I would be able to believe again. But just like anything else I"m not going to believe unless it can be proven. I don't really see that happening but hey if it is concrete proof its concrete proof right? lol. I have found in the past several months that the formation of various ancient religions fascinates me now. I'm a history buff sometimes and just love exploring the frame of mind of those that lived long ago. I had to explore this prospect because I had to know why they created this belief that hurt me so much in the end. And when I began to put myself in the shoes of those that lived so long ago without all the years of scientific study and testing that we have been blessed with I can then understand that they were only doing what they could to explain all the Whys that come to mind through life. Why are we here, why is the sky blue, why does rain fall from the sky, why do other people speak other lanquages, and why do i feel bad when I do something wrong that affects someone else? All these questions and more were answered by all the various beliefs, myths, and folk tales that eventually formed the religions we know today and others that fell away long ago. This helped me get past the pure anger i felt at being so deceived for so long. I think that at some points in history, more pointedly during the formation of the monotheistic religions that rule the world now. That there was more political motivations rather than just explaining why things were. I can see how limiting the population to one God would cut down on revolts and create a more obedient and subservient population that would govern themselves in obedience to the one and only God that was apparently in favor of your govt. I also dont hold any anger toward those that are in the faith now. I know they have been programmed just as i was to believe what they believe and to carry on those beliefs through "spreading the word". I have become more of a constitutionalist than i ever was in the past year. I see why our fore fathers in america wrote the constitution and I want to see all those rights protected. I believe in our rights as american and I believe in the right to freedom of religion. I actually feel bad about all the grief I gave believers of other faiths that didn't reflect my own personal churches beliefs. In the end we are all just in pursuing our own happiness and trying to get by the only way we know how. They are the ones that are ruled by an ancient and outdated book, not me, not anymore. But if that is what makes them happy then I support that. On another note I have not been cursed by leaving the faith like some people would try to say. In fact have prospered during this past year and ended up making more money than I have in the past last year and have just topped that off with a promotion. O man, Bible God sucked ass but the universe has been very kind to me :-) lmao. Anyway, I just wanted to let you all know whats going on with me in my ex-christian life. I still cant frequent this site as much as i would like as it starts to weird out my wife and brings up some old arguements that have been laid to rest for now, but you are all always in my thoughts and I wish you all well. Dark Bishop
  8. Things Fundies Say On Facebook

    wow citsonga, thats a good one..... and kinda disturbing. LOL
  9. Blue Pill or Red Pill?

    Hey Trek, Yeah this has been discussed before. But it is a very true analogy. I can say that I would not want to live a lie. But the only reason I would want to go back would be to get away from the occasional headache of being a non religious person around a dense (in more than one sense of the word) population of believers. I really love my family and really love my wife and have gotten to the point that I wish i had kept all my findings ,when i deconverted to myself, and not worried her with them. I've actually started expressing some of my views on my facebook with a post that one of my friends made on the flat earthers. I almost got in a biblical debate over whether or not the bible portrays a flat earth creation (which it does). i just kinda made the statement that it is ridiculous but in their defense the bible does portray a flat earth so they are just trying to hang in there and have faith in god's word. I should of known better. I figured someone would be disturbed by that statement and sure enough someone did LOL. but anyway. I ended it fairly quickly and wished the faith and happiness with there beliefs. Anyway, getting off my rabbit trail and back to the topic at hand. I would not ever want to go back to my former ignorance. Although it would of made my life a bit easier the past year or so, I am glad I know the truth now. However I do, as i said before, wish that I hadn't brought the hammer down like i did with my wife. But things are getting better. I'm hoping it was just a matter of adjusting. So maybe in the end honesty will prove to be the best policy :-) Dark Bishop
  10. Who deconverted you?

    My answer is not like most of the others my friend. For I found my deconversion upon a spiritual journey which lead me to the all knowing one, his messiah, and his disciples filled with knowledge of all things. The all knowing one and great oracle of instant wisdom whom we will call "Google" has answered many questions of mine in past times. And I have found the wise Google provides me with much information for my questioning and troubled soul. There came a time in which I called upon all mighty Google to explain to me various things of biblical history. The almighty and all knowing Google informed me that the bible was a great ancient heap of camel dung which humans have mistakenly taken to be the truth, through indoctrinated ignorance. The great and powerful Google has shown me many visions through his son and messiah "You Tube"! He has shown me many truths in these visions. These visions have comforted and rested my troubled mind even tho this wisdom comes at a price. For the worshippers of the great heap of camel dung hate the truth. Many of these dung worshippers of whom I once was will spit at and revile those who have been enlightened by Google, his apostles, and his disciples. These disciples can easily be found at "The congregational not so faithful church of Ex-Christian.net." These Googlenian disciples are wise beyond words themselves and lead me to much more knowledge and pointed me to the writings of some of the apostles such as Dawkins, Ehrman, and Price. As such my journey continues. While I may be buffeted by dung worshippers from time to time I know that the truth is with me. And finally having truth for once in my life is worth it. Dark Bishop
  11. I like the term "none" a lot better than athiest, secular humanist, or agnostic. I always feel like i need to explain what the others mean. And athiest seems to be met with the same reaction as if you had just told someone you were a convicted felon fresh ouut of prison. Lol. Hopefully we nones in this generation can make a difference and lead the way so that future generations will not suffer the indoctrination that we've dealt with. This is a movement I would like to see to the end that means a lot to me, but I can be content with knowing the ball is rumbling in that direction in the next 30 or 40 years, even if I don't see the fruits of it. 😃. DB
  12. I've asked the question before if anyone thinks that we will one day see a world without strong religious influences. Hopefully that day will be soon. But sadly probably not in our lifetimes. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/04/160422-atheism-agnostic-secular-nones-rising-religion/
  13. This is exactly why there MUST be a wage gap!

    I don't know how it is in upper management in corporate America as I have never worked with the up n ups. But from a production floor stand point most jobs have set wages all the way up to hourly leads. Salaried employees are different and may vary. I don't know. I've never been salary. I actually probably make more money than low end salaried supervisors, because I'm an electrician so we usually top out the hourly scale and I get lots of overtime. I said all that to say this. In my experience there are very few women in the fields that pay the most. Not because of education or experience but because most women don't want to do certain skilled jobs on production floors in america. I would like to see what the statistics are based on. Was it a open survey on all women in america and their wages? Or was it a more specific survey on say female Salaried management versus male Salaried management at the same level? Because if it is a general statistic based on the wages earned by all working men versus all working women then I feel that women don't want to do the highest payed hourly jobs, so I don't see a wage gap on the hourly level which is where most Americans are going to be. DB
  14. Southern Pride

    @mwc That's good info. I didn't know all that. I can see your point a little better now. To bad the couldn't have nipped it in the bud in the beginning after the revolution. I know how people in general are resistant to change. So it really doesn't surprise me that the moral loopholes were made. Etc before it was abolished. We can see that resistance to change even in our own situation of deconversion. Even faced with massive amounts of evidence to disprove the ancient superstitions and beliefs of man, they will still deny that information because of the indoctrination from childhood that their belief system (christian, Muslim, pagan, jewish) is above any proven scientific finding. Makes me wander how much indoctrination was involved with the acceptance and defense of slavery. But even if it had been on its way out for 100 years or so. It was still an accepted practis in the south for a long time. Fighting that type of indoctrination that they were lesser beings and the greed involved with the profits made must have been frustrating to say the least. So yeah I'm sure some slave owners were better than others. But most if not all must have known that deep down there was something wrong with owning a person. I wander how church services on the subject were preached back then? Churches preach a lot for or against wedge issues now. I would like to know how the sermons concerning slave ownership went. Probably wasn't to hard to justify with the bible. It's full of slave stuff. Maybe that's a ray of light for our situation. Religion has been going out for over a 100 years. Maybe in another hundred or so it will be almost gone. DB
  15. Southern Pride

    @mwc (One more thing to add concerning this statement) I dunno about that. When I think about the actions of others I try to put myself in their shoes. And in this case I can't automatically call a slave owner in general "bad". And this is the reason why. When I put myself in these people's shoes I have to remind myself that this was what they new. Slavery had been around for thousands of years. For them the thought of it being wrong was actually a foreign concept and something that was a new movement. So I cant say that they were wrong for living a normal life according to the standards of their time. It was the way it was. Rich people had slaves. And slavery made the south wealthy. And their have been a lot of wars fought over money issues. This was no different. Politics and money. That being said I can certainly see how some slave owners would have been considered good. If they treated their slaves as family then I would definitely say that was a good slave owner. But in today's standards looking back it's easy to point and wag a finger at how wrong it was. But it was a touchy issue back then. I guess you could say it was the 1800s equivalent of a wedge issue. The same as today's abortion, gay rights, and the affordable health care act. I did the same thing when I watched the eclipse in Tennessee last week. I was in the totality for 2 min 40 sec. Or so. And I pictured myself as an ancient isrealite or Indian noticing the sun slowly dim and then get completely covered up. And honestly I can see how it would look to someone like the eye of God was staring back at them. Can you imagine the panic they would have been struck with? It was an awesome inspiring sight to behold and without the knowledge we have today I can understand why whole religions were made centering around events just like that. Even in the bible it talks about the sun being blotted out. And how it is an act of God. I can't really blame them for making their religions. They were ignorant and trying to explain things they didn't understand. But in today's time it's hard to understand how someone can be a fervent believer anymore. Just like in today's time slavery is unacceptable and a crude lifestyle of an ancient ignorant world. Dark Bishop