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About DarkBishop

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    Living in the foothills of the Appalachians in good ole Georgia
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    I am a new ExChristian deeply wounded at this point by my experience. I am happy to be a part of this community and look forward to talking to people who have/and are going through the same troubles that I am experiencing now.

    Being raised a Christian I was indoctrinated with very strong foundations in Christianity. In my teenage years I rebelled, practiced wicca for awhile, but eventually received "salvation" when I was 22. When I devoted my life to Christ I was on fire for God and eventually answered what I felt was the call to preach. I preached for ten years, had a radio ministry at one point, Did street ministry, was awana commander in one church, eventually was ordained a Bishop in the Church of God, the Gospel assembly(hence the screen name DarkBishop), and later was made assistant pastor at one of their churches.

    Its a long story but eventually I began to question my faith and back slid into sin. I tried for 4 years to reorganize my thoughts to a point that I felt I could go back to church but couldn't. My faith never came back.

    When my son made mention that he thought the bible was BS I tried to search for archeological evidence to prove stories from the bible and was greatly disappointed that there was none for the specific event I was looking for. This lead to other searches on the God EL who was the original God of the Israelites. that was when I found out that the original mythology of EL included a whole pantheon of other Gods and Goddesses.

    This destroyed what little faith I had left. I still believe in something. I just don't know what and I highly doubt any religion on earth knows either. To say the least at this point I am spiritually Broken.

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    I feel that there is something n no one knows what

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  1. Who deconverted you?

    My answer is not like most of the others my friend. For I found my deconversion upon a spiritual journey which lead me to the all knowing one, his messiah, and his disciples filled with knowledge of all things. The all knowing one and great oracle of instant wisdom whom we will call "Google" has answered many questions of mine in past times. And I have found the wise Google provides me with much information for my questioning and troubled soul. There came a time in which I called upon all mighty Google to explain to me various things of biblical history. The almighty and all knowing Google informed me that the bible was a great ancient heap of camel dung which humans have mistakenly taken to be the truth, through indoctrinated ignorance. The great and powerful Google has shown me many visions through his son and messiah "You Tube"! He has shown me many truths in these visions. These visions have comforted and rested my troubled mind even tho this wisdom comes at a price. For the worshippers of the great heap of camel dung hate the truth. Many of these dung worshippers of whom I once was will spit at and revile those who have been enlightened by Google, his apostles, and his disciples. These disciples can easily be found at "The congregational not so faithful church of Ex-Christian.net." These Googlenian disciples are wise beyond words themselves and lead me to much more knowledge and pointed me to the writings of some of the apostles such as Dawkins, Ehrman, and Price. As such my journey continues. While I may be buffeted by dung worshippers from time to time I know that the truth is with me. And finally having truth for once in my life is worth it. Dark Bishop
  2. I like the term "none" a lot better than athiest, secular humanist, or agnostic. I always feel like i need to explain what the others mean. And athiest seems to be met with the same reaction as if you had just told someone you were a convicted felon fresh ouut of prison. Lol. Hopefully we nones in this generation can make a difference and lead the way so that future generations will not suffer the indoctrination that we've dealt with. This is a movement I would like to see to the end that means a lot to me, but I can be content with knowing the ball is rumbling in that direction in the next 30 or 40 years, even if I don't see the fruits of it. 😃. DB
  3. I've asked the question before if anyone thinks that we will one day see a world without strong religious influences. Hopefully that day will be soon. But sadly probably not in our lifetimes. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/04/160422-atheism-agnostic-secular-nones-rising-religion/
  4. This is exactly why there MUST be a wage gap!

    I don't know how it is in upper management in corporate America as I have never worked with the up n ups. But from a production floor stand point most jobs have set wages all the way up to hourly leads. Salaried employees are different and may vary. I don't know. I've never been salary. I actually probably make more money than low end salaried supervisors, because I'm an electrician so we usually top out the hourly scale and I get lots of overtime. I said all that to say this. In my experience there are very few women in the fields that pay the most. Not because of education or experience but because most women don't want to do certain skilled jobs on production floors in america. I would like to see what the statistics are based on. Was it a open survey on all women in america and their wages? Or was it a more specific survey on say female Salaried management versus male Salaried management at the same level? Because if it is a general statistic based on the wages earned by all working men versus all working women then I feel that women don't want to do the highest payed hourly jobs, so I don't see a wage gap on the hourly level which is where most Americans are going to be. DB
  5. Southern Pride

    @mwc That's good info. I didn't know all that. I can see your point a little better now. To bad the couldn't have nipped it in the bud in the beginning after the revolution. I know how people in general are resistant to change. So it really doesn't surprise me that the moral loopholes were made. Etc before it was abolished. We can see that resistance to change even in our own situation of deconversion. Even faced with massive amounts of evidence to disprove the ancient superstitions and beliefs of man, they will still deny that information because of the indoctrination from childhood that their belief system (christian, Muslim, pagan, jewish) is above any proven scientific finding. Makes me wander how much indoctrination was involved with the acceptance and defense of slavery. But even if it had been on its way out for 100 years or so. It was still an accepted practis in the south for a long time. Fighting that type of indoctrination that they were lesser beings and the greed involved with the profits made must have been frustrating to say the least. So yeah I'm sure some slave owners were better than others. But most if not all must have known that deep down there was something wrong with owning a person. I wander how church services on the subject were preached back then? Churches preach a lot for or against wedge issues now. I would like to know how the sermons concerning slave ownership went. Probably wasn't to hard to justify with the bible. It's full of slave stuff. Maybe that's a ray of light for our situation. Religion has been going out for over a 100 years. Maybe in another hundred or so it will be almost gone. DB
  6. Southern Pride

    @mwc (One more thing to add concerning this statement) I dunno about that. When I think about the actions of others I try to put myself in their shoes. And in this case I can't automatically call a slave owner in general "bad". And this is the reason why. When I put myself in these people's shoes I have to remind myself that this was what they new. Slavery had been around for thousands of years. For them the thought of it being wrong was actually a foreign concept and something that was a new movement. So I cant say that they were wrong for living a normal life according to the standards of their time. It was the way it was. Rich people had slaves. And slavery made the south wealthy. And their have been a lot of wars fought over money issues. This was no different. Politics and money. That being said I can certainly see how some slave owners would have been considered good. If they treated their slaves as family then I would definitely say that was a good slave owner. But in today's standards looking back it's easy to point and wag a finger at how wrong it was. But it was a touchy issue back then. I guess you could say it was the 1800s equivalent of a wedge issue. The same as today's abortion, gay rights, and the affordable health care act. I did the same thing when I watched the eclipse in Tennessee last week. I was in the totality for 2 min 40 sec. Or so. And I pictured myself as an ancient isrealite or Indian noticing the sun slowly dim and then get completely covered up. And honestly I can see how it would look to someone like the eye of God was staring back at them. Can you imagine the panic they would have been struck with? It was an awesome inspiring sight to behold and without the knowledge we have today I can understand why whole religions were made centering around events just like that. Even in the bible it talks about the sun being blotted out. And how it is an act of God. I can't really blame them for making their religions. They were ignorant and trying to explain things they didn't understand. But in today's time it's hard to understand how someone can be a fervent believer anymore. Just like in today's time slavery is unacceptable and a crude lifestyle of an ancient ignorant world. Dark Bishop
  7. My Parents Still Love Me

    Wow night core. It sucks that your having to go through this. Hopefully they will come around. At least they are making steps toward accommodating your stay with them for the holidays. I am debating coming out of the closet on my deconversion and worry about a similar response. When my son told me he was bi and didn't care whether he dated a boy or a girl I had to drag it out of him. I'm claiming awesome dad title for my instant acceptance of this with him. 😁 I could tell he was relieved. I was told by a gay co-worker that the dad is always the hardest to tell. At this point he is dating a girl. But like I tell him I just want him to be happy. I think that eventually your parents love for you will win over their issues with you being gay. I don't really get the whole not sleeping in your siblings room tho..... I mean even if you are gay..... it's still your brother. But anyway. I wish the best for you. People in general don't like change. Hopefully this is just a matter of adjusting to the change. Dark Bishop
  8. Southern Pride

    As far as my hypothetical situation, your right there is really no use in discussing the what if's. It would have ended up being a very different America. Although as history has proven in other countries and in other noble movements. It could have eventually been done without war if both sides had been willing to come together on the issue. As far as my thoughts on if i believe the descendants of slaves should have a say so on what happens to confederate monuments my answer is no. Everyone suffered during that time. The north, the south, and slaves. What I would rather see is them erect monuments dedicated to the sacrifice of their ancestors during that time. There were even slaves that served in the war with the promise of freedom as their reward after it was over. Build statues with their likeness on them and put them in the battlefields and various memorials. Add to the history. Don't take away from it. DB
  9. Southern Pride

    I see descendants of slaves and the end of slavery as the only good outcome of a war that ended hundreds of thousands of lives. And the end result was a lengthy animosity toward northern states, the federal govt, and the African American race. I know at this point it is all a hypothetical situation that myself and a couple of others have mentioned already. But if slavery had been allowed to die out on its on. If the federal govt had offered some type of subsidy so that slave owners could liberate their slaves, pay them, and not have a crippling effect on their profits then maybe and most likely the resulting war, deaths, animosity, and racism that has endured for 150 years would never have happened. Also in many cases (as I've always heard but can't prove) a lot of slave owners treated their slaves like family. Some slaves even after the end of slavery chose to stay where they were. I like to think this is true because there are many African Americans that took on their former master's last name. I can't imagine a slave taking a former master's last name if he was the brutal, slave lashing, slave raping, heretic that was portrayed by the federal govt at the time and what first comes to mind in today's emotionally charged climate. No one has focused on any story's of good slave owners. Only the bad. And this is another piece of history that the media won't bring up. Because it won't induce good ratings. No one wants to hear the good anymore only the bad. DB
  10. Southern Pride

    Another thing to consider. Especially in ga. Is that general Sherman committed what would be considered in today's standards, a war crime, against the southern population. In effect during that era when he cut a swath through ga burning towns and cities as he went, he broke the Spirit of the confederate soldier hastening the end of the war. Sherman is still a dirty word in the GA. It isnt covered in the history books but a lot of people said there was rape going on from Union soldiers etc. I'm not saying Sherman sanctioned it but that goes on in all wars I imagine. There were a lot of hard fillings in the south at the time and in light of the history you might understand why the men and generals that fought were considered hero's. Even tho they lost. DB
  11. Southern Pride

    I wouldn't live long enough to see the south get over it if we were forced to take all the statues down. It would only increase the divide and make the issues worse. Like I said before. It seems to me that (in my local area anyway) that racism wasn't an issue with 80s and 90s kids. But since everyone made a big deal about the flags, now the statues, and they are even talking about erasing the memorial off stone Mountain. Racism has spread again because the white southern population feels like their culture is being attacked. The confederacy was a huge part of our history and has shaped our culture. We don't think that should be erased. It represents so much. But I don't think anyone agrees with slavery any longer. No one alive today was a slave, no one wants to take away designated civil war memorials.... (yet) but they do want to single out the confederate memorials. Those men that died and the families that suffered should be remembered. Even if they did fight for bad reasons. Everyone needs to realise that in that time and before that time it was a very different way of life and represented a fundamental change in the dynamics of the south. The war could have been avoided. On both sides they fought because they felt they had to. Remember in some cases it was brothers fighting brothers, cousins fighting cousins, friends fighting friends, and Americans fighting fellow americans. It was more than just slavery. DB
  12. Southern Pride

    Well ofcourse @midniterider, the statues are America's idolatry. We've stopped worshipping God and are now worshipping historical statues! REPENT! AND BE SAVED! Lmao DB
  13. Southern Pride

    Oh and @mwc, Yeah we have a church on every street corner in the south. But like you said the food is Delicious. Next time your down we could hook up and I will grill out for ya. My wife loves my BBQ 😃. DB
  14. Southern Pride

    I found it. Yeah I can agree with that. Leave the battle fields and designated memorial alone and put the others in a museum. But there is also the problem of "give an inch, take a mile". In my lifetime I've seen all the rebel flags taken off state flags. My own state flag included. Which I tend to agree with. The Civil War has been over a long time it was time to change the flags. But they are never satisfied. They are making just as much hype about these monuments as they were the flag. If we move them to museum then they will be pissed about the designated memorials. If we take em all down. Repurpose state memorials, and put what we can in museums then they will be pissed about that. So when do we say enough is enough? And when do we get out of everyone else's business? This country was built on the priniciple that all men could pursue happiness as long as it didn't violate others in there pursuit basically. We can be proud of our revolutionary, confederate, union, slave, Vietnam, world wars, Iraq war, and any other ancestor that we want to. Let those that are proud of former slaves put up monuments. I don't think we would have issues with that. Hell every town in the south has a street named after MLK. I don't think a memorial for slaves would be shunned. But don't shun our confederate ancestors either. Live and let live is a good rule to live by. DB
  15. Southern Pride

    Ok..... I said the biggest issue was slavery. But that doesn't change the fact that southern families wanted their family members death to be remembered. They wanted their losses to go down in history. Slavery was bad we know that. No one wants slavery back. But the Civil War happened. The war, the people in it on both sides, and the slaves that were freed from that war are done a disservice by taking down the monuments. It is our history whether you like it or not. It happened. Fighting over the monuments only divides us more. Their are monuments to the north, their are monuments for slaves and underground rail road operators, but the only ones anyone else has a problem with are the monuments for confederate soldiers and generals who fought and died aswell. Hello..... they are the other half of the story whether they were wrong or right. It was different times back then. Up to that point slavery was acceptable. Our first president had slaves. Do we need to take George Washington off everything too because of slavery and a bunch of marshmallows that wear there feelings and prejudices on their sleeves? Nah I don't think so. DB