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    College alumni for six months looking for people who feel the same way. Been a Christian for five and half years now, and I am honestly fed up with it. Need people who get it.

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  1. skysoar15

    Article dismisses the notion of Ex-Christians

    Interesting. There are no 'real' Christians if there wasn't 'real' salvation. Hmm...something to chew on. I also like how as Fuego pointed out, salvation is usually seen as 'simple,' but it takes a lifetime to escape from the idea of it. Very much an abusive type of relationship model. Hook the person in with sweet phrases and then make the person feel guilty upon leaving. Not only that, but hurl threats and question that person's integrity for trying to get out of the situation. Grateful I was willing to leave, but damn...this world doesnt make it easy.
  2. What are your thoughts on them? I'm currently in one, but I'm at odds with the 'higher power' mentality. Does anyone have an objective view of the 12-step programs? Has it worked for you? If so, how have you incorporated the higher power philosophy into your life? Has it worked for people you care about? I'm not in the program because of any legal reasons, but because I've seen habits inside of myself I'd like to improve. These are certain habits that I just can't seem to stop for whatever reason. Figured I'd give the 12 steps a try since my mom has 30 years sober with alcohol because of it. My main fear is that it's just another form of dogma with it's "do this or die" mentality. I don't see how that's much different from Christianity's "do this or risk Hell." Yet, I like aspects of it. Curious what your thoughts on the 12 steps are, because they seem to work for a LOT of people.
  3. The link above asks if it's possible for Ex-Christians to exist, to which the site claims no, due to biblical 'reasons.' Hopefully the above link works. I'm not as bitter as I once was toward Christianity, but it still enrages me to hear something like that. It both amuses me and enrages me at the same time.
  4. I currently live with my aunt and mother. I've come a long way since my Christian faith dissolved, but one thing utterly baffles me: my mom's liberal christian faith. It's bewildering. My mom will preach at me using words from the Bible...and then seem clueless about Jesus being the one way to salvation. She always claims there is more than one way to God, which is completely contradictory to Jesus' sayings. When I was a Christian in college, I did it because I really believed Christ was the only way. It was Jesus or bust. My mom interprets me leaving my college campus group as leaving a cult. She believes that I was 'religiously' motivated and not 'spiritually' motivated. The hell? I don't argue her, but it's mind-boggling. My mom believes that we all our different journeys with how we see God and is vehemently against dogma. A lot of this comes from the 12-Step AA program in which she is one of the sponsors (leaders). It's not scriptural, but good luck convincing her that the AA Big Book isn't the actual Bible. Again, I've never tried debating my mom on this stuff. She's too...*into* it. I don't think she has the ability to think about it rationally. Heck, she has a hard time accepting gays because it's against the culture she was raised in. It's all cultural to her. None of it seems born from a sincere desire to walk with Jesus the Christ. She will claim she is and I think she really believes it, but my mom doesn't fully *walk* with Jesus. Does anyone relate to what I'm going through? It's a little hard being preached at by someone who doesn't seem to logically get what they're preaching about. It might sound better than living with a fundamentalist, but at least their logic would be based on what the Bible actually says, as extreme as they are.
  5. I lost my mom's support for a while. She follows a New-Agey type of Christianity. She's too into it to realize it's not the genuine article, but as a Christian I tried to witness to her so many times. I slowly realized that God was a waste of time and am still trying to make sense of the hold religion has on the world. My mother's attempt to preach at me from the Bible is something I accept with humility...even if I think it's bullshit to preach one aspect of the Bible and not take seriously the rest. I also lost my goddamn mind following it.
  6. What's sadder is that we live in a society like this. Where there is so much hurt and pain that we feel the need to rely on something like Christianity.
  7. skysoar15

    Thoughts On Crying?

    Fair enough. My college group was a mixture of both. It wasn't a bad (shameful) thing to cry, but there was obviously an insistence on the 'proper' role of Manhood. Also, it was usually just in the context of small group or a worship service.
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    Thoughts On Crying?

    It's bullshit. Plain and simple. Now, I agree that crying over everything is absurd (unless youre a child), the fact that men AND women are conditioned to treat crying as a weakness is stupid. Many people dont know how to manage their emotions as a result. Culture of stoicism. One of the refreshing things about Christianity at first was the allowance of tears among men. I cried my eyes out during some of those small groups. I keep thinking about the movie 'Fight Club' where this guy was so desperate to let his emotions out that he chose to attend support groups irrelevent to his life. That's fucked up commentary right there.
  9. I love my mother to death but hearing her 'praise God' for any little good thing that happens is just so stupidly annoying. I hate how 'God' gets off scot-free for every little thing. Please dont bother reminding me that God isnt actually real. Just assume I mean the idea of him. Im currently living at home with my mom, so I keep my opinions to myself. But man...part of what fuels me in the gym is just my hatred for the idea of God. If he exists, then why the hell does all of this shit and confusion exist? It's maddening. If I were to earn a great opportunity, God would get the majoriity of credit. How the hell does that work? Blows my mind.
  10. skysoar15

    Share your examples of lame Christian excuses

    One of my favs was this: "Christ knows what it's like to suffer and you are in excellent company."
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    The start of a wasted life?

    I was almost one of those young guys who threw their lives away as well. Two years ago, I was so sure I wanted to choose ministry as a profession. I was so sure that I chose to stay in my hick college town one year after graduating to really see if it was what I wanted to do. After becoming disillusioned from the faith, I realized how much of a life I could be having. My mom never supported my earlier inclinations to become a missionary. I see now that she was right. Deep down, I knew I didnt really want to be a missionary. I just felt guilty doing something else when 'soul-winning' was apparently the highest calling one could have. It bothers me that many of my old friends and acquaintances are stuck in that world. I'm glad I was able to see what a gigantic sham it all was. What's sadder is that many college freshman are about to move into that town being convinced to join 'small groups.' The next generation of brainwashing is becoming more powerful. This time, many young people are being fed up with "rules based" Christianity and jumping into "radical" Christianity. The relationship versus religion mindset. It's the same thing given a fresh coat of paint. It's sad to know that more and more college aged students will be suckered into it all. It was a nightmare to leave.
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    Thoughts On Crying?

    Hi y'all. What are your thoughts on the act of crying? Many adult people (at least in America) seem to look down on it. Some say it's childish, especially for men. Many people are more accepting of women crying than men. I've heard the phrase: "Seeing grown men cry" used in a derogatory way. It seems that tears are only reserved for the most absolute of tragedies to be considered 'acceptable.' Nobody would bat an eye if you cried over a son or daughter dying. However, tears from a panic attack are a different story. This becomes more subtle because not everyone would understand this pain. I regularly fight the urge to cry all of the time. I'll let them flow when I'm by my absolute self, but in public...I never show them. My mom has shown negative connotations toward crying. While she's no stranger to tears during stressful times, they seem to be reserved ONLY for that. She'll often roll her eyes if a character cries during an apology (in a movie). This has made me hesitant to come to her with my emotional problems. I wish this society was different in handling their problems. We live in such a stoic society where we're told that tears are weak and children's stuff. I just don't get it. It causes a culture of repression. At what age did tears become a bad thing? The idea is absurd.
  13. skysoar15

    Being weird for Jesus

    I'm still learning what it means to have boundaries with people. As a Christian, that didnt exist. All that mattered was showing 'the love of Christ.' I'm also learning that going on a simple date doesnt have to potentially lead to marriage. People CAN date just to have a good time. Back in church, you always needed a serious intent before dating anyone. This stifled me personally and made me neurotic as hell. LOL.
  14. After leaving the faith, I felt like I lost almost 5 years of maturity, if not more. I suddenly felt like a child, angry and frustrated at the world. Gone was my calm sense of self that everything was going to work out because of God. Instead, I struggle to regain my sanity on a daily basis. This affects me somewhat at my job as well. I'm learning to take it one day at a time. I'm realizing how much of a journey life really is. I won't wake up in a day and suddenly be 100 percent okay. As long as I'm at least 1 percent better each day, that's honestly enough. Exercise, focusing on hobbies/goals and self-improvement are the main ways I see out of this depressed funk I've been in all summer. Even if it's just for 30 minutes, stepping into the gym is a huge deal. Etc.
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    Being weird for Jesus

    Tell me about it. I was hesitant to date anyone because I was afraid that it'd be scrutinized by the whole church. That's not a good way to live. I could never just feel comfortable talking to a woman out of fear of being 'judged' or monitored by a pastor. All of the women at church were closely watched by father-like pastors. I've been in small groups where guys 'confess' to spending too much time alone with a girl. This is out of fear of 'committing adultery' and temptation to sleep with her. (Usually in the context of a romance). Pretty stupid stuff.