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About SeaJay

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  • Birthday 07/18/1968

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    Happily married with three children. l enjoy reading and my favourite food is Italian.

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    Christianity (having doubts)

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  1. I can relate. And this is also me www.rationalskepticism.org/christianity/a-genuine-cry-for-help-t16038.html www.rationalskepticism.org/topic16355.html Have to say though, this is still raw with me and I don't really want to discuss this in PM or similar. I'm sorry but it overwhelms me and I can't deal with it. I'm just posting this to let you know you are not alone. This has TERRIFIED me for nearly 10 years. Honestly, if it wasn't for therapists and the good folk on this forum, I dread to think where I'd be.
  2. Thank you very much for the kind words. It’s appreciated
  3. I pray to God of the Christian bible
  4. @TABA No I don't go to any church, I don't read the bible any more, nor do I have much to do with Christianity. Haven't done for almost 10 years. I still prayer though but that's about it really.
  5. I am reminded of this: “Scientists have calculated that the chances of something so patently absurd actually existing are millions to one. But magicians have calculated that million-to-one chances crop up nine times out of ten.” ~ Terry Pratchett, Mort Also, really weird that I've stopped getting notifications these last few days.
  6. That's a very good point and hadn't thought of that. They'd be more advanced in all ways and as you say, turning up to just whack on a bunch of humans who can't really defend themselves (it might be akin to us fighting a modern-day army with sticks and stones) doesn't make any sense. I think the only problem we might have is if we had some kind of resource they absolutely needed and a resource we didn't have a never-ending supply of to share with.
  7. Pretty much exactly what I think as well. For all we know we might have walked over a few aliens on the moon because we are looking for 'life' the conforms to what we think life is like. It might be like us or it might be very different to the point we might never recognise it.
  8. Thanks for the encouraging words Josh. On times I really wouldn't know what I would have done if it were not for the folk on here. Interesting that Prof. Hawkings thought that meeting aliens might not go as well as we would like it to go. He thought it would be similar to the explorers first coming into contact with the new world.
  9. Hi Josh Up until yesterday and today, I was doing great. It had all faded into the background and I was getting on with my life. Then, I came across the above article about us being alone in the universe and things started to spiral out of control again. Right now though, as I type, I am definitely starting to feel much better again. Re your question: What if there isn't any life off this planet? I guess that doesn't prove anything either way. I find the search for E.T. fascinating and I find the possibility that we are alone in the universe, a little sad. Nobody wants to be alone. Not really. This really is a fascinating subject in and of itself. Aliens.
  10. Thanks for sharing this disillusioned. I tend to agree with you. It seems both the "for" and "against" parties have thrown a bunch of guesstimates into the pot and come to the conclusion they are both 'probably' right. I also think your description of the Fermi Paradox is one of the best I've encountered. Clear and concise. Thanks again
  11. I tend to agree that there must be some other intelligent life in the universe. But the train of thought that says 'the universe is staggeringly massive therefore...', is wrong. I, personally, am not saying that train of thought it wrong, I am just saying those three scientists are saying it is wrong. So the size of the universe has nothing to do with the chances of there being intelligent life elsewhere; at least not as much as we tend to think it does. Again though, I can't buy that. I can't accept it to the point I think the scientists are wrong (which sounds very arrogant of me). And when I start thinking scientists are wrong - that tells me I must be wrong because what do I know? To boil it down, I think they are saying, life is sooo unique, it doesn't matter what size the universe is because - life is so unique. As an example, all snowflakes are unique, literally, so no two snowflakes are the same. At least that's what I read. So, if you somehow managed to stick a snowflake in the middle of our galaxy, you aren't going to find another snowflake like it because that snowflake is one of a kind. I know the odds are not that extreme but it's an example of what (I think) they are saying. All that said, how a batch of numbers and formulae tell them what they tell them, I have no idea. A rebuttal by a Ph.D astrophysicist www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2018/06/26/no-we-cannot-know-whether-humans-are-alone-in-the-universe/#666f6b397d3b
  12. I think that's sort of the entire point though - that when we look at the universe and start losing our minds at the immensity of it all, we tend to think there MUST be intelligent life out there other than us. But that science report is saying it's wrong to correlate size + chance of life = high. It's actually very low. It's saying, even though we have only researched an infinitesimally small speck of the cosmos - the research informs us that there's a high percentile chance that intelligent life on earth is all there is. Even writing that and reading it back blows my tiny mind. Just because life started here, that is no indicator that it started anywhere else. We really could be unique. What I get from the info I've read, is, it's not saying we are alone. It's saying, if it turns out we are alone, we really should not be surprised at all. All that said, we might find microbial life in our own solar system with Titan (Saturn's largest moon), Europa (smallest Jupiter's moon), Enceladus (another moon of Saturn), and even Mars being possible candidates. I think the research though, is saying we shouldn't expect it.
  13. Well, this is depressing. Basically, there's at least a 53% chance we are alone in our galaxy and a 40% - 85% chance we are alone in the universe. www.sciencealert.com/three-of-the-world-s-greatest-minds-just-published-a-disheartening-take-on-the-fermi-paradox https://arxiv.org/pdf/1806.02404.pdf ^ On page 13 under 4.0.4 K3 Update: "The Fermi observation thus raises our 52% credence for being alone in the galaxy to somewhere between 53% and 99.6%, depending on the type of evidence considered. It likewise raises our 38% credence for being alone in the observable universe to somewhere between 39% and 85%. In both cases the evidence from scanning nearby stars for radiation signals produces changes on the scale of a few percentage points, while the evidence of a lack of interstellar settlement in the Milky Way or other galaxies produces much larger changes." The math used and jargon spoken is way above my understanding but what they are pointing towards is the bias used in calculating the Fermi Paradox. There are simply too many unknown qualities to say the universe surely has other intelligent life in it - despite its size. Life on earth might be unique after all. I still can't fully wrap my head around those percentages even though they are by respected scientists. Something doesn't add up though, because on one hand, they say we simply do not know enough to go with the notion that the universe has other life in it, yet they can confidently come up with those percentages? I have seen one Christian website suggest this points to there being a design process for us being here. And whilst I am struggling with my faith, I admit it does make me think perhaps there is an intelligent mind responsible for us being here. I understand the above proves nothing, but it does make me think. I've posted on here in the past, and you might remember me as the guy who is terrified of eternal punishment. I've been having a terrible time with that fear since 2010. I've posted on here in the past and asked for help and I have had that help (thank you). For me, the idea was, if I could destroy my faith then I'd have no eternal punishment to be afraid of. It has really messed with my head for the longest time. That's why the above statistics worry me. I can't help think that if we are unique, special, the only life in the universe, then for me I can't ignore the fact that the bible says as much. Either way, it's a bit sad to think we might be the only life in the universe. Talk about "home alone!"
  14. Hi Josh I'm still here. I can relate to what Brother Jeff is going through. For myself, nothing much has changed other than the fear and dread has subsided a lot. The trouble with me though is when the fear goes away, I tend to not think about any of this and just get on with my life. Not sure if that's a positive or negative. It's a positive because I can get on with my life but it's a negative because I never resolve anything either way. I am happy with the peace though
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