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About SeaJay

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    Happily married with three children. l enjoy reading and my favourite food is Italian.

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    Christianity (having doubts)

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  1. Who Goes to Hell?

    Thanks for that LF, very interesting. I'd missed the Molech entry in the Old Testament but yes, I've read up on the Dec 25 mithras school of thought. It looks like we can pinpoint the idea of where hell came from, be that the fires of molech in Leviticus of the burning rubbish dump outside Jerusalem, Sumeria or elsewhere. But what do you think about the idea that even though they are actual places/events in history, that Jesus used them to teach about a literal hell? What I mean is, Christadelphians (and probably a good few others today) teach that hell is not a literal place. That Jesus was just using places/events in history to teach in a symbolic sense that sinners will be punished (but not with eternal agony, but obliteration). Whereas those believing in hell will say "No. Jesus was not using symbology from anything, he was simply teaching hell is a real place."
  2. Who Goes to Hell?

    What is you are not convinced of LF, that hell was the valley of Hinnom and Gehenna was a burning garbage dump where criminals and trash were thrown, or was there something else? I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on this
  3. Thoughts

    You mean the entire realm of matter, the space between and everything else? No idea. But if it were just the solar system I'd still say no idea, because I'd have nothing else to compare it to. I mean, if someone said why is it so big, I'd ask, in comparison to what? Same with, 'why is it so small?' My reply would be the same, small as compared to what? I'm only familiar with this universe (and an infinitesimally part of it). I am reluctant to say 'It is what it is' because that sounds dismissive, but that's how I see things. That said, there is a part of me that thinks 'Wow! That's a whole lot of creation outside our world - what's it for?'
  4. Thoughts

    As far as what the actual term 'evil' might mean, I don't think either point of view can be proven right or wrong (believer or nonbeliever) because there are so many meanings the Hebrew word can have (morally evil, disaster, etc). That said, the word evil is used in opposition to the word good ('well-being' in Hebrew). Well being doesn't really have connotations of moral evil, well being means things like hearty, hale, healthy, whole, robust, etc. So it seems to me that evil used in this context means disaster, calamity, misery, etc, and only to the person who is rebellious against God. I don't think it is about creating evil in a moral sense. It's more similar to 'Dis-ease' being in opposition to 'Ease' than evil being in opposition to good. At least that's what I think.
  5. Thoughts

    Yes it's an example of what apologetics say, but I posted it because I'm interested in a non-apologetic point of view.
  6. Thoughts

    The Hebrew word for evil can mean a good few things, like disaster, calamity, etc. It can mean evil too, but not necessarily
  7. Thoughts

    A very interesting read TrueScotsman. I've been told by a psychologist that my brain has been 'conditioned' to react/act in certain ways and that I can 'remap' my synapses so that I approach things differently and thus react differently to them. Thank you again for this post.
  8. Thoughts

    Thank you for the advice, I'll read the Blind Watchmaker first and then I'll reread Misquoting Jesus.
  9. Thoughts

    Does the Bible specifically teach that God is all powerful and all knowing, or is that something we have assumed from the text?
  10. Thoughts

    Really thought provoking video Margee. The reason I was told that people do bad things and the reason God doesn't intervene is free will. Stopping the rapist takes away his free will. <-- Just saying what I've heard.
  11. Thoughts

    It does help, it all helps, the support, the videos, the advice, it all helps. If someone could recommend some good literature to read I'd be grateful. Here's what I have so far (not read the ones in red yet). Why I Became an Atheist (Loftus) The God Virus (Ray, PhD) Climbing Mount Improbable (Dawkins) The Blind Watchmaker (Dawkins) God Delusion (Dawkins) God is No Great (Hitchens) Misquoting Jesus (Ehrman) Godless (Barker) The first two I'm not even sure if they're good reads as I picked them out myself.
  12. Thoughts

    I'd never thought of it that way before.
  13. Thoughts

    Thank you very much for sharing your post Questioner, and for the advice. I can totally relate to it all. I agree that hell is so bad a punishment, so easily the worst punishment anyone could think up, it leads me to believe it must be human made. I like your explanation that you gave up belief in hell intellectually, but emotionally it still gripped you. That's me, totally.
  14. Thank you Geezer, I'm intending to watch it. So, are the lecturers Christian, atheist, do they use the lectures to promote religion?