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About SeaJay

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  • Birthday 07/18/1968

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    Happily married with three children. l enjoy reading and my favourite food is Italian.

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  • Still have any Gods? If so, who or what?
    Christianity (having doubts)

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  1. Thanks for the link I did go through it. I couldn't find anything definitive (that could just be my poor reading skills though). It does mention the Exodus verse but I couldn't find anything that says the slave goes free if they survive the beating. That said, the verse that says "But if he survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, since he is the other’s property", suggests the slave is still bound (i.e. still the property). EDIT: This text on that site "Deuteronomy seems to be a step backwards from Leviticus. She wonders “…what might have prompted Deuteronomy, with its emphasized humane tendencies, to retain permanent bondage”, implies that the bondage condition remains.
  2. I was just wondering if there was an actual verse that said as much or if that website was just assuming that's what happened.
  3. Thanks for the reply mwc. I've checked my emails and there's nothing in the spam folder.
  4. Ok thanks both for the replies. Yes, it seems odd to say the slave is set free when the verse suggests that after the beating the person is still the "property" of the master. I am wondering though if there was a verse elsewhere that said as much. Dunno, just trying to figure out why that website said they were freed. Also, anyone know why I never received a notification in my email for these replies? Just checked my settings and they are all right except I chose not to receive web browser notifications (which I assumed shouldn't affect email notification).
  5. Hey all, Long time no post I was watching a clip of the Atheist Experience and it focused on slavery. After the show I did a little research to see what the apologists said about it all. On the website below: https://answersingenesis.org/bible-questions/doesnt-the-bible-support-slavery/ I found this (I've underlined the part I want to ask about): "According to verses 20–21, if an owner severely beat his servant, and the servant died, then he would be punished—that was the law. However, if the servant survived for a couple of days, it is probable that the master was punishing him and not intending to kill him, or that he may have died from another cause. In this case there is no penalty other than that the owner loses the servant who is his temporary property—he suffers the loss." Is that true? That if the slave doesn't die they are set free? I wasn't aware that this was the case, I thought the slave stayed a slave after the beating. I am not trying to promote anything here (slavery is wrong), I'm just seeking an answer to a question I'm unsure about. Thanks all
  6. I can relate. And this is also me www.rationalskepticism.org/christianity/a-genuine-cry-for-help-t16038.html www.rationalskepticism.org/topic16355.html Have to say though, this is still raw with me and I don't really want to discuss this in PM or similar. I'm sorry but it overwhelms me and I can't deal with it. I'm just posting this to let you know you are not alone. This has TERRIFIED me for nearly 10 years. Honestly, if it wasn't for therapists and the good folk on this forum, I dread to think where I'd be.
  7. Thank you very much for the kind words. It’s appreciated
  8. I pray to God of the Christian bible
  9. @TABA No I don't go to any church, I don't read the bible any more, nor do I have much to do with Christianity. Haven't done for almost 10 years. I still prayer though but that's about it really.
  10. I am reminded of this: “Scientists have calculated that the chances of something so patently absurd actually existing are millions to one. But magicians have calculated that million-to-one chances crop up nine times out of ten.” ~ Terry Pratchett, Mort Also, really weird that I've stopped getting notifications these last few days.
  11. That's a very good point and hadn't thought of that. They'd be more advanced in all ways and as you say, turning up to just whack on a bunch of humans who can't really defend themselves (it might be akin to us fighting a modern-day army with sticks and stones) doesn't make any sense. I think the only problem we might have is if we had some kind of resource they absolutely needed and a resource we didn't have a never-ending supply of to share with.
  12. Pretty much exactly what I think as well. For all we know we might have walked over a few aliens on the moon because we are looking for 'life' the conforms to what we think life is like. It might be like us or it might be very different to the point we might never recognise it.
  13. Thanks for the encouraging words Josh. On times I really wouldn't know what I would have done if it were not for the folk on here. Interesting that Prof. Hawkings thought that meeting aliens might not go as well as we would like it to go. He thought it would be similar to the explorers first coming into contact with the new world.
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