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About SeaJay

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  • Birthday 07/18/1968

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    Happily married with three children. l enjoy reading and my favourite food is Italian.

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    Christianity (having doubts)

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  1. I never realised there were that many passages on slavery
  2. Very good points I'd forgotten about the NT teachings of slaves being told to obey their masters.
  3. Thanks both for the info, much appreciated.
  4. Just watched another Atheist Experience and it was again about slavery. At 19min 28sec the caller says "the law of Moses is not the law of God", thus implying slavery is not an issue for Christians and Christianity because God never sanctioned slavery - that was Mosaic law. The caller then goes on to say that though the ten commandments are from the Mosaic law, they are still in effect because that is the moral law. I've not heard these explanations before Does the caller have valid points?
  5. Thanks for the link I did go through it. I couldn't find anything definitive (that could just be my poor reading skills though). It does mention the Exodus verse but I couldn't find anything that says the slave goes free if they survive the beating. That said, the verse that says "But if he survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, since he is the other’s property", suggests the slave is still bound (i.e. still the property). EDIT: This text on that site "Deuteronomy seems to be a step backwards from Leviticus. She wonders “…what might have prompted Deuteronomy, with its emphasized humane tendencies, to retain permanent bondage”, implies that the bondage condition remains.
  6. I was just wondering if there was an actual verse that said as much or if that website was just assuming that's what happened.
  7. Thanks for the reply mwc. I've checked my emails and there's nothing in the spam folder.
  8. Ok thanks both for the replies. Yes, it seems odd to say the slave is set free when the verse suggests that after the beating the person is still the "property" of the master. I am wondering though if there was a verse elsewhere that said as much. Dunno, just trying to figure out why that website said they were freed. Also, anyone know why I never received a notification in my email for these replies? Just checked my settings and they are all right except I chose not to receive web browser notifications (which I assumed shouldn't affect email notification).
  9. Hey all, Long time no post I was watching a clip of the Atheist Experience and it focused on slavery. After the show I did a little research to see what the apologists said about it all. On the website below: https://answersingenesis.org/bible-questions/doesnt-the-bible-support-slavery/ I found this (I've underlined the part I want to ask about): "According to verses 20–21, if an owner severely beat his servant, and the servant died, then he would be punished—that was the law. However, if the servant survived for a couple of days, it is probable that the master was punishing him and not intending to kill him, or that he may have died from another cause. In this case there is no penalty other than that the owner loses the servant who is his temporary property—he suffers the loss." Is that true? That if the slave doesn't die they are set free? I wasn't aware that this was the case, I thought the slave stayed a slave after the beating. I am not trying to promote anything here (slavery is wrong), I'm just seeking an answer to a question I'm unsure about. Thanks all
  10. I can relate. And this is also me www.rationalskepticism.org/christianity/a-genuine-cry-for-help-t16038.html www.rationalskepticism.org/topic16355.html Have to say though, this is still raw with me and I don't really want to discuss this in PM or similar. I'm sorry but it overwhelms me and I can't deal with it. I'm just posting this to let you know you are not alone. This has TERRIFIED me for nearly 10 years. Honestly, if it wasn't for therapists and the good folk on this forum, I dread to think where I'd be.
  11. Thank you very much for the kind words. It’s appreciated
  12. I pray to God of the Christian bible
  13. @TABA No I don't go to any church, I don't read the bible any more, nor do I have much to do with Christianity. Haven't done for almost 10 years. I still prayer though but that's about it really.
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