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  1. Has anyone heard of this group or know anything about it? It's with Jon Bjarnastein. Sounds like a cult to me. This is the latest calling of my delusional husband and I'm just trying to figure out as much as I can about it to know where he is headed next. Thanks
  2. Yes, you've got that right. The troubles are around his crazy/harmful ideas of faith and my difference of opinion and how to work together to raise the kids. I almost welcome the idea of divorce! That sounds kind of good right now. However, I couldn't stand to be apart from my kids and I don't think a judge would deny him custody so we'd be looking at 50/50 I think. That is the only thing holding me back. That and because I want the kids to stay at the school they are going to, so I don't want to have to move and I don't think he'd willing move out. So, I am stuck here for now, for my kids.
  3. I spoke briefly with a counselor about my family situation and she actually recommended that I may be better off to go for marriage counselling with my husband to a Christian counselor. She thought they are better trained in what his beliefs would be and so would be better able to assist. I believe if the counselors are registered they have to be neutral and would not try to sway either in either direction. Any experiences with this? I am not concerned that I could be swayed back into Christianity as I know too much to go back and my husband is too brainwashed to even hope that he would ever c
  4. Aghhhh! I just want to scream and make this all stop. When I talk to my kids about what their dad has been doing and telling them it drives me crazy. He makes them pray loudly in the car every day before school. They told me if they are quite he gets upset and he prays more loudly trying to get them to join in. He tells them heaven is made of gold and diamonds. Apparently he is showing them pictures of places around the world where miracles supposedly happened. He makes them do the hail mary and tells them they can have anything they want if they pray properly then jesus will give it to them.
  5. Hi, I was watching some youtube videos the other day and found this one very interesting and helpful to my deconversion. I hope the link works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7mWKfuuGSs Another one I liked, a little long with frequent commercials but if you can sit through it, it covers a lot of information on the bible "Christian dilemmas- the secret history of the bible" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FXdMkFomBk Hope this helps others as it has helped me!
  6. Thanks for all the advice. You guys tend to keep things simple and clear, and help me to see differing points of view, whereas I tend to catastraphise the situation. There is some good sound advice in your words. Thanks.
  7. Well, I haven't written a lot on here, but I read constantly, just not logged in. This site is very helpful. I am happy to say that I have not been to church since September and am feeling better because of it! My husband still goes and there is constant tension on Sunday morning. We haven't discussed it as I feel that would be a breaking point for us. It will come up at some point but I'm holding off for now as I continue to read and learn. After the last scandal with the Catholic church I told him I just couldn't support them anymore and would not be attending. There is still the issue with
  8. Sounds like things have really improved for you! That's great news to hear. What did you find that worked to help your wife come around and to save the marriage? What advice can you give me on getting my spouse to see clearly? Thanks!
  9. Hi, my caution is just with having kids. Opinions become stronger and the drive to instil their faith in their children seems to be greater. Since you are past that stage, then I'd say see how it goes but be prepared for the relationship to change. My husband was Catholic and a regular church goer but then he abruptly changed for the worse. He would say that your boyfriend is not truly a Christian since he doesn't follow the Bible to a "T". Kids are involved in the mix so it is very difficult. Conversely, a friend of mine is a very liberal Christian married to an atheist and they have goo
  10. Thanks everyone for your comments and reassurance. I feel somewhat better about it now. I really do appreciate hearing your experiences and there are some great ideas here that I will put to use in this battle.The kids do still believe in Santa and magic so I shouldn't be too concerned yet. Although my husband himself has turned into a fundamentalist we go to a Catholic church as that is his background so regularly we just go on Sundays. He wants the kids to be more involved as they get older. I'm hoping to stop going altogether but feel like I can't yet. I would rather them go to the Catholic
  11. Help I don't know what to say to my kids. They are asking about death and heaven and my husband is telling them nonsense from the Bible. They are all excited b/c heaven is made of gold. And b/c they go to heaven and then come back to earth again in human form just like they are today. He makes it sound so exciting to them that they are happy to think about dying. They are too little to really understand so I can't explain about the history of the Bible and they don't have the patience to listen to an explanation. And my little one is so excited to tell me what he knows. How do I handle this? I
  12. Looking forward to listening to this. I'm currently reading Jesus interrupted and find it fascinating.
  13. Welcome. I'm sorry you've been through such a tough time and glad you found this site. Hopefully things will turn around for you and some positivity will come your way. I find this site very helpful and you will find people that will listen openly.
  14. Thanks everyone for your responses. I'm sure my husband suspects my deconversion so hopefully it won't be too much of a shock for him. It's the kids and the fallout I'm concerned about. Time will tell.
  15. I'm sorry for your loss. I too think you dodged a bullet. It may hurt now but would only be worse if discovered later in your relationship. I'm in the throws of it now and it is complicated once kids are involved. Growing up I thought it was ridiculous that people had been told to marry one of their own but I see things from a different view now. If she is a liberal christian it could work, but a fundy or someone who is that devout does not have room for compromise. Things will only get worse. Sorry. I hope you can work through your situation. All the best.
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