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    Bible criticism (this does not = hating on the Bible) and digital forensics. Everything else is just a hassle.
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    Became a sincere Christian in 2003 (fear of death and possible subsequent assignment to hell). In 2017, I reached a breaking point-I could not deal with the stress of thinking I might go to hell if I did not figure out what God wanted. I wanted answers, but I could not determine which church had it right and it was eating me alive. I realized there is no way to demonstrate or prove there is a God, let alone what they are like and what they want, or if there is a soul, or if there is an afterlife, and so forth and so on.

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  1. How do you square that with the wars conducted by Isreal? It's not like it didn't happen. How could YHWH hate violence? He directly commanded it. Literally the wholesale slaughter of man, woman, and child. Perhaps a contradiction posed by various biblical authors....?
  2. It does, but the judgement isn't immediate. Look at Paul's other writings. I'll find the specific verses.
  3. Another point I forgot to mention, the statement that violence is the way of the flesh is quite literally, un-biblical. YHWH himself ordered warfare and genocide of whole nations. If what YHWH commands is good, then violence in of itself is not bad, merely the motivations for doing it. I don't want to hear, "but that is the Old Testament." YHWH is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow according to the Bible. Those who translated the KJV made a blunder with the commandment, "Thou shall not kill." The Hebrew word is murder, not kill. It goes right back to what I said, it makes no sense that th
  4. Un-biblical teachings in this pseudo chick tract: 1. There is supposed to be a general resurrection of the dead. The Bible does not teach that once someone dies, they go to heaven or hell. That is a modern teaching not found in the Bible, but later church tradition and people who don't read the Bible, i.e, 90% of the self-proclaimed Christians. Cain would not be asking the Marine if he was at the the great white throne, they would have been there collectively and then judgment was passed. 2. Questionable on eternity or hell in general. The Bible proffers different ideas
  5. Hierophant

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    I had to look it up, Alma is from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Bonefide Mormon. I thought David Fitzgerald's The Complete Heretic's Guide to Western Religion was great look at the Mormons and their history. Interesting book - lots of stuff the Mormon church would like to sweep under the rug.
  6. I struggled with the idea of NDE as well during my deconversion, as if there was something to it that might make all of Christianity true. I think others here already stated well what an NDE is, especially that it is near death, not death. I didn't think about that until someone mentioned it and it clicked. I used to get all weirded out whenever I heard these stories about people visiting hell and the warnings they had for us. It's all anecdotal and absolutely none of them agree with each other. I have no doubt some of those people actually believed they visited Hell, but I don't t
  7. I cannot remember exactly where I saw or heard that environmentalist in Australia advocated the prevention of controlled burns which worsened the fires there. Maybe it was some hearsay and I didn't dig into. I don't deny climate change, if I came off that way. I certainly think it is a thing, but I do question the alarmist language. Not that it is all propaganda, but I think some of it is because people react to alarmist language opposed to warnings, and that is what the environmentalist want. I suppose I am an environmentalist, I want us to do better and I think we can, but I am n
  8. Thank you @Robert_Tulip for your responses. Very interesting topic and I enjoyed reading it. I would definitely have to learn more about astrology to better understand what you are saying. Back in my Christian days astrology was not on the table for studying and I don't really have much of an idea about it other than I am a Cancer, which I think is a crab or something.
  9. I apologize, I phrased that poorly. What I meant to say was that it is difficult for me, that is, I am committing the fallacy of incredulity, to think the Christ story was made out of whole cloth because the motivations to do such a thing are beyond my personality and character. Essentially, it would be so far from me to do such a thing that I cannot understand why anyone would do it. I have difficulty understanding their mindset, motivations, and the energy to take to such a task.
  10. @Robert_Tulip I had a question about the gospels containing clues or hints as to Christianity's astrological origins. It is my understanding that the gospels, whatever their original content may have been, were later redacted, who knows how many times, to make them more orthodox. If that is the case, are we really seeing clues of astrology? Would it not make more sense that the gospels as we have them are the workings of ecclesiastical redactors? Is the argument being made that the original evangelist was writing a theology based on astrology? I have trouble tying that
  11. After reading essay and other Christ Myth ideas, it is my understanding the original theology was astrological/mythical. Most compelling is how Paul talks about the celestial Christ; weird for a historical figure to say the least. I think a good argument can be made that Paul was going through the Old Testament and extrapolating a messiah and thinking about what happened to this messiah in the heavenly realm. Of course there are some aspects in Paul's writings that do not totally line up with that. Was that Paul's original idea? Did he hear it from someone else and start investigating himself?
  12. Thank you for posting, definitely going to give it a read. Personally, I am agnostic on the historicity of Jesus. I don't think there is evidence there was a historical Jesus, but I am skeptical about the Christ Myth. It is more an argument from incredulity. I suppose I don't understand the motivations surrounding such an idea or how it would even get off the ground.
  13. Check out this book, it does provide some balance to the climate change alarmist: https://www.amazon.com/Apocalypse-Never-Environmental-Alarmism-Hurts/dp/0063001691/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8 I do understand how you feel. It is easy to be anxious about all of the world's problems as if they are on you to figure out. Truth is, it's not. I used to get all worked up thinking everything I did would somehow help solve the climate change problem. Truth is, the entire world needs to be on board before anything really drastic is going to happen. And in my opinion, tech
  14. As @ToHellWithMe said, you may feel some sense of courage in that you believe in YHWH, but you don't bend the knee. If this God did have the power to send you to eternal torture, it wouldn't be long before you were begging to get out. Everyone has a breaking point and it is probably a lot closer than you think. I get where you are coming from, but I disagree with you on a foundational basis. I don't buy into what you believe, even about yourself, as comporting to reality. Now, I am always open to new information, but unless you could demonstrate, that is, verify your beliefs in mag
  15. @freedomwalker Check out this recommended reading list for books discussing higher criticism: http://robertmprice.mindvendor.com/study_list.htm
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