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    I have a Master of Arts Honours Degree for a thesis on The Place of Ethics in Heidegger's Ontology, and was a moderator at the discussion forum Truth Be Known.

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  1. · To comment on this point from the debate thread, my view is that spirituality is about real connection, whether between people, or between people and a noumenal reality, that is with the world as it actually is rather than just as it appears. · The problem with the literalistic thinking of mainstream Christianity, that tends to make it distinctly unspiritual in any genuine way, is that it interposes a dogmatic belief structure between us and the noumenal, and thereby constructs an idol in place of reality. · There certainly is some genuine spirituality in conv
  2. Your point about being systematic is key. Systematic logic is based on making assumptions clear. My assumptions involve high respect for materialist science, seeing all supernatural claims as allegory for natural observation. Precession provides a heuristic for explaining in systematic terms how our planet relates to our cosmos, at the wholistic level of the entirety of human history. My view is that it is essential to have respect for cultural diversity, recognising that we cannot simply dismiss a tradition that we do not understand. And even when we think we understand it and d
  3. It is so interesting that you say "on" the sky, rather than "in" the sky, let alone "above" the sky". This reflects a debate I have had with Richard Carrier, the mythicist author. He argues that ancient epistemology imagined Jesus Christ as located as an entity in "outer space" who descended through the seven planetary heavens to be incarnated on earth. I completely disagree with that model, because the ancient use of the sky as a visible sheet of stars, the dome of the firmament, imagined the stars as a two dimensional surface, not as a three dimensional space, ie as the inner
  4. My view is that the precession hypothesis is entirely holistic. The whole in question is how the earth physically relates to the cosmos. The overall order of life on earth sits within the whole of time and space, but the immensity of infinity and eternity can only be properly encountered or imagined through a mediating whole, which for the origins of Christianity is the temporal structure of precession, which encompasses the whole relationship between the earth and the sun. There is a further astronomical dimension of this work that I have not mentioned that helps to explore thi
  5. No I am not. I am talking just about the empirical observation of precession of the equinoxes, something that ancient astronomers could see, and the evidence of how the authors of the Bible thought. Where the comparison to astronomical discoveries comes in is in the inability of people to see that precession informed Christian origins. The comparison is not referring to any possible truth of any astrological claims, it is about the entirely scientific hypothesis that Christianity originated from observation of precession. For example, there is a very simple and obvious correlati
  6. My presuppositions include that the universe exists as observed by science, and that it obeys consistent physical laws. I am happy to try to uncover my assumptions and compare them with others. It is always important to ask if assumptions are held because they are likely to be true or because they are likely to be convenient. Assuming that a personal intentional deity created the universe is convenient for those who wish to construct a priestly hierarchy, but is distinctly unhelpful in explaining any true observations. Exactly as the theologians of Galileo's day thought moons of Jupi
  7. Sorry Myrkhoos, but what you describe here is the antithesis of rationality. Revelation is not rational. It is entirely about the emotional fervor of faith. It sets up an axiom, that God created the world, for which there is no evidence at all, and which is not open to debate. It is essential that rationality have capacity to question its presuppositions, to ensure that anything alleged to be self-evident does not have some better explanation. For example, the premise that God Created the World is far better explained by analysing the social function of the concept of God to see the polit
  8. I understand that many ex-Christians feel a deep bitterness about the pervasive irrationality of religion, but that does not mean that religion has to be irrational on principle. Just promoting the idea that religion could be rational is important in itself, as a scientific question. It means the type of fundamentalist religion you describe, which considers logic to be Satanic, is outside the pale of rational discussion, so is not my target audience. There actually are people who would like Christianity to appeal to modern secular people, to reverse the d
  9. Yes I am serious. I plan to orient the book to engage with Christian theology, explaining its current weaknesses and how a scientific approach to Christian origins can help solve major problems and anomalies for the church as an institution. I understand that bigots will reject this agenda out of hand, but my target audience is the theological community who are interested in truth. I do not wish to treat theology with the automatic disdain and contempt that it often attracts. The pope is constrained by institutional factors, but nonetheless has still opened very interesting scientif
  10. I am celebrating Easter by doing a forty hour fast, from 3pm on Friday to 7am on Sunday.
  11. · The sphinx is a man’s head with the body of a lion, combining the astrological signs of the man (Aquarius) and the Lion (Leo). This stone carving erected in 1440 BC between the paws of the Great Sphinx at Giza explains this symbolism - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_Stele · The man on the right is pouring a jug of water, directly indicating the Aquarius symbol, while the man on the left is also pouring a jug, suggesting far older use of this symbol than is generally recognised. · https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_Stele#/media/File:Giseh_Traumstele_(L
  12. · My view is that Christianity originated in a secret mystery wisdom society that combined Judaism and Greek philosophy together with diverse spiritual traditions from places such as Egypt, Babylon and India, strongly grounded in knowledge of the astronomy of precession. · The New Testament largely originated from parabolic fictional texts within this community. They wrote it with the intent that the general public should believe it was all literally true. Of course the general public did believe it was true, but the authors did not realise that a result of this wild popul
  13. The Biblical imagination takes a much longer time frame. The Gospel story of Jesus as avatar of the age of Pisces also includes the story about the second coming in which Jesus is imagined as avatar of the Age of Aquarius. So rather than fall away, the idea is that Christianity will only come to be properly understood once the symbolism in the Gospel texts is reconciled with scientific knowledge in the Age of Aquarius. The dominant supernatural church beliefs of the Age of Pisces will then be discarded on the model of the separation of wheat and tares at the end of the age from Matt 13:24ff
  14. Here is my draft Table of Contents a. Introduction – The possible role of astronomy and astrology in Christian origins and the implications for Christianity today b. The astrophysics and astrology of zodiac ages c. Cultural history of the Age of Aquarius d. Biblical Exegesis – textual analysis of possible astronomical allegory e. Precessional Influences on early Christianity from India, Egypt, Babylon, Israel and Greece f. Implications for theology – Christ as construction of the transc
  15. I am writing a book with the provisional title Christianity for the Age of Aquarius. An editorial consultant is helping me to prepare the book, which will draw on ideas that I have discussed here, for example in the thread on Precession as the Framework of Christian Origins. I’d love to get your honest feedback on my book idea. The goal is to help Christian theologians understand the astronomy of the Gospel story so that they can share its message in a systematic and scientific way. What’s your gut response?
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