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    I am in my middle 20s and stopped using my religion 10 years ago. I am probably somewhere on the LGBTQ spectrum.

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    Non-religious - still believe they exists though

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  1. I am a misotheist. I think this label describes my attitude pretty close. A misotheist is basically a person that believes in God/a God but "hates" it or the teachings of it and/or the religions based on it. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Misotheism I am a misotheist because in my life experience both personal and collective mankind is unfair in it's rules and designs. I am not a total misanthrope, I enjoy many parts of this life. I just have a "beef" with this God sometimes, specifically the one I was raised believing it and never ceased believing in anyway. I might still have a harder time relating to atheists in my experience, because it's still a different belief. The difference seems to be only that atheists claim that they don't literally believe in God, while the misotheist side still believes in such a being, or is at least inclusive regardless of whether one literally believes or not.
  2. I get concerned about it too, what makes it suck especially is I'm in the prime age of my life and I want to enjoy the rest of my life and not have it taken away before I'm old enough. It also makes me nervous because of the political chaos and social division happening right now. People are becoming more cold every other conditions are close to like the Bible says in Revelation. I'm not saying that it will end, but with the way things are I wouldn't necessarily be surprised to see that Christians happened to be right. So I do get anxiety from the "end times" and by extension all the current chaos and division.
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    I don't know how much I can relate and I might be the only one on here. I still believe in the God today, but my question is not whether or not he exists, I just feel anxious questioning toward God. Regardless if whether it's all true or not, why would anyone else even consider it just and right that many people are going to Hell. I read some ideas that Hell may only be just for the most wicked, evil, and reprobate, but I digress on this idea. I strangely have no "fear" of Hell (except for perhaps maybe very "deep down").
  4. Oh this is very late and has no replies after all that time, but yes.
  5. Or he's like a dictator in the way that he desires us to love him and his church but if we freely choose to dissent from him or his plan for us, we are punished for eternity instead. I believe God represents the idea of what people would call a universal dictator, using his creation to execute only his plan. There is no meaningful individuality. He didn't even have to make it this way. He could have made us "allowed" to own ourselves without the negative or positive consequence of afterlife. It makes me so frustrated that nobody in my life can see from my point. I'm tired of searching things like "God's plan sucks" and most results I get are basically "I understand it's hard, but..." no, no, I can't entertain why this God is anymore, even if I believe it's actually all true.
  6. There isn't really any need to feel sorry. However, what inspired this thread, started in the context of those who talk about sexism in religious institutions, like it is only women who were played or judged with, and that men had no burdens or judgement. I think one of those was you, but I'm not holding it against you. I kind of like this. In fact, there are less men in the churches of most Christian denominations than women, despite all the speak about "patriarchy!" in context of religion.
  7. The scary thing is that society actually views that kind of misandry/feminazism as acceptable. It's unfortunately got harder to be able to tell the difference between "good" feminists and the feminazis.
  8. For example, going by one of the previous-made threads on here, I see whenever people criticize sexism in the Bible or churches (and all other areas too) there is an unfair biased focus on the women. The thinking is that it's only women that were oppressed or had things bad and that men had everything very good. That is not the truth. There are things that suck/sucked about being a man too: Men and boys are supposed to feel guilty for being attracted and looking with "lustful eyes" at women in religion and ironically, secular society too. Males live shorter lives compared to females and are also more likely to be born and affected with disabilities and conditions like Down Syndrome, autism, cerebral palsy... More men are depressed or lonely than women, also dudes have a harder time getting sex or partners than women, and are also more likely to be seen as "creepy". There are more points than I can list succinctly. Thing is about all of them, society doesn't really care or is actually hostile.
  9. I know this is a year old but I want to add my own take. Outside of religious context, there is a some truth about the "dark side" being embraced in higher society like celebrities and politicians and I do hear about all the dirty sex abuse stuff and other "dark" parts. I'm sure most people heard of or remember the late 1990s White House Lewinsky scandal. I do believe there is something that is going on. Also is Hollywood and "high position" types in general politically and socially lean way more left than the rest of America on average. I don't identify as conservative or liberal personally, I only believe in facts and my personal experiences.
  10. Woah, I never even intended to suggest that the Bible was anything accurately historical. If I made any mistake I apologize. I was asking a question that had to do with what Christians themselves believe.
  11. What are some of these Bible passages (book/chapter cited) that most ex-Christians see to indicate or imply that non-Christians who don't believe in their own faith are destined for eternal hell punishment after death?
  12. I'm back again and just wanted to re-introduce myself after a while. I live in the Northeastern part of the US, raised Catholic but no longer has much faith anymore. I wouldn't call myself an atheist as an ex-Chr though. I don't call myself anything. I think that the deist idea that there was God who created our universe and left us alone after that makes a nice point. I admit that God does not allow something to happen or not to happen from a practical point, but before I was very angry at the "theoretical" God that most Christians believe in because I was dealt some of my own shit and personal disappointment in this life. And this is the beginning for another topic, but I have lost appetite for the typical Christian idea of Heaven/Hell after our world ends. Even if I was "supposed" to look forward to going to Heaven, I now feel like there is nothing compelling me when I remind myself of the true "spiritual" nature of the doctrine.
  13. Which begs another question, why is the treatment of women so overrated when it comes to criticism of religious practice? Why do people think men never have any struggles or negative treatment, no matter where it is? If anything religions (especially Christianity), treat men no differently than women in these regards, if not actually worse.
  14. Why does God/Christianity hate the flesh of our nature so badly? I have tried to look at it from a different perspective before, but those who believe our flesh isn't inherently filthy and etc. are a really small minority of Christians and most of those even are well considered "heretics" of the faith I guess. Why does God hate desire so much, even though he supposedly created man and woman himself to be "fruitful and multiply" in his own image. Of course, there's more, but that's one of the only things I want. I would love it if I died and entered a paradise where I can still have a partner and reproduce offspring for eternity, so why Adam/Eve, but not anyone else after him? I know, I'm flustered. I have been struggling with my faith for the last 10 years. I think it's cruel and evil anyway, I wish Christians who I do know understood that I sincerely can't stand things anymore. I wish my paradise had me with a beautiful romantic partner, and I will actually be a driver and I'll drive a hot-looking manual transmission, for one. On the other side, I feel a hint of guilt for not being at peace with God. But, I sincerely get angry and doubt him sometimes. I do have an intellect of my own, but my heart still believes in the existence, even though I think he rigged the system with some of his design decisions. Anything to say here?
  15. I can't seem to go a day anymore without feeling anxiety or fear about my own loneliness and singleness at least once. I feel like I can't do much of a better job at attracting the opposite sex because I'm awkward, mostly physical awkwardness. It's semi-visible, but sometimes I think I might objectively be using "semi" as a euphemism and the reality is more harsh than that. I'm tired of having "disability" or "special" pride shoved down my throat. I really wish we didn't have to live with diagnostic labels at all. I had my own share of rejections, heartbreak, etc. and I'm a little shorter guy... my height is 5'7" and white European, even my dad and other male members of my family are at least one-two inches taller than I am, as are most guys my same age group in my locale. How am I supposed to feel confident? Especially when there is a certain (spreading?) segment of female society my age or younger that say that they only prefer tall guys (how tall may vary, but even 5'7" isn't as lucky here) and more men are over my height in general? I had nasty outbursts in the past, a few I had in the last year turned out to be very intense and I'd have trouble controlling my emotions about it. I know I should remain confident in my stuff no matter what, but I don't know what encouragement I should be getting. All of my anxiety and crippled emotional state boils down to the way God allows events to play out. I'm not an atheist, though. But, I'm beginning to consider reasons for his lack of existing, even though I wonder if I'll ever be or want to be convinced. I know it sounds weird talking about why I still happen to bother believing in a God who rigged the system in favor of evil and I'm angry about it, you're probably saying "Why bother?" I tried not to hate or be mad at God before, but I was either in a different mood or sugarcoating my real personal feelings with family and friends. God wants the things of this world to be just a single, temporary test. I was talking with my dad in his truck today while he was driving me to a doctor's office, we were listening and commenting a bit on the BS about politics and recent news events. I made a comment at one point, I said that God should come down and punish all the politicians and sick people of our society. He responded to me that man should only wait to see God face-to-face for proper justice. He said that this world is only a test from God, and I tend to get flustered and emotional with even the most mild confrontation, I lose my words with what I want to say. Wow, so this world is only a very short test compared to eternity, and it doesn't matter here at all? I believe that if my dad truly believed the recent news events were so despicable, he would feel the exact same way I do about God. This is supposed to be a test for a better life in eternity, but when eternity happens, God passes away everything about this Earth? Even things he originally credits himself for man to enjoy like having sex or romantic partners, beautiful-looking people? And he also says that it's evil sin to look at and enjoy women? (Okay, and today's church only seems to have a problem with men lusting after women, but it's a free pass the other way around) That trying to live with some mild disabilities in this life is worthless because I won't be able to "feel" desires and materials of this earth anymore? What is the point of it if I couldn't feel the experiences of this world in a "typical" way? We really have no free will, if we did, we'd have the ability to do things like find a relationship if we desire, for example. We can still grow and learn in the process of this life, but problems and BS in society have just grown bigger and bigger each generation, we can't really impact any significant change in society anymore. Even though we are still technically autonomous beings with free will, what God has done or created has rigged the system to a wide extent. I want my family/friends (like the millions of Nazis that God set up) to stop being so brainwashed to the point from God (Hitler), that they can't see my own frustration that I have. They try to make me feel better, and it has a temporary effect, but it's not helping me feel better on a more fundamental level. God can stand upside down, catch his head on fire, and fall into a bowl of gasoline as far as I'm concerned. :sad:
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