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theyownyou33 last won the day on October 27 2017

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    Christian for 20 years that was dragged through most of the popular denominations. Now I'm an atheist.

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  1. Hey everyone, I know I haven't been on here in a really long time, but when I originally signed up I was in the throws of deconversion and was unsteady. I'm happy to say that I've come a long way with my deconversion and while I still feel a degree of guilt for some reason, I'm mostly able to intellectually rationalize my positions to myself every time. If you dig up one of my old posts you will find that my wife and I were starting to be in dire straights over my new found atheism and were having heated conflicts consistently. I can't say that I followed all of your advice in taking it slow with her, but I did cool down my approach at times. Now, to me own disbelief she has told me that she has come to a place where she isn't sure if she's a christian anymore. She's can't overcome all the moral obstacles that are presented in the bible amongst other things. While I was initially very happy for her, I also started to feel guilty again. What if I'm wrong. If I go to hell would it really matter? Just to me, really. If I get her to go to hell and then our kids.......I realize that it's not rational or logical to think this way, but this is a big change for her. She did not take it lightly. I suppose I just need some pat on the backs, amens and it will be ok's or anything else anyone can offer. Thanks for reading.
  2. This makes me feel so much shame for being a creationist. Really did just follow these people and took their word for it because they were on my "team".
  3. Thank you Chikirin. It's amazing how the one true religion can be torn apart so easily with just a couple minutes of critical thinking. This is the type of stuff that led me to deconvert. Especially when I brought it up to other believers who either told me to move on from the thought if it bothers me or told me to stop questioning God's authority.
  4. Hello everyone, I wanted to post this here in case someone didn't know, but tonight at 7pm EST Aron Ra will be discussing evolution and religion with Kent Hovind. It was suppose to go down last night, but Kent backed out for some reason. It should be all on schedule for tonight though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEKltaQ5HlA
  5. My wife and children are still christian, but I've started to get the kids to say "Praise mommy", because she's the one who works all day for us to buy food. At first it annoyed my wife a bit, but she soon got over it. I can't stand grace either. I had a christian recently say that it's funny how we "bless this food to our bodies" when we aren't even eating good food half the time.
  6. Hello everyone, I was just wondering what the purpose was for Jews to write down their conquests all the way down to the slaughter of innocent children. Was this just a fear tactic for anyone who would read their history or just to indoctrinate younger Jews? I would think that the creators of the New Testament would want to get as far away from those problems as possible, but they didn't make any attempts to distance themselves from it or slavery. Why would this be?
  7. So, I have a family friend on Facebook still who is charismatic christian and posts ridiculous things all the time without thinking what it really means. Below is the excerpt of what she recently said. "God is always protecting us and because he sent the snow I worked a half office morning I always stop here and get gas at about this time and I knew I needed gas today...man pulled a knife and a handgun on three females Wednesday morning at a Speedway gas station in Lower Macungie Township and forced one of them to get cash from an ATM before he fled with the money, police said. The robbery happened at 9:28 a.m. in the station at 5640 Hamilton Blvd., state police at Fogelsville said. God is our protector" So, not only is she crazy enough to believe that God sent our snow storm just to keep HER from getting robbed at her regular gas station, but she also praises him for protecting her. I guess the three women who were emotionally scarred by this tragic incident are just fucked or hated by God or both? So, I have another question. If two or more people pray for snow and two or more other people pray that it doesn't - how does God calculate the votes? How does he know what to do?!? Anyway, I'm sick of this stuff.
  8. In my experience it has to do with two things. One is the fact that Jesus is in total control and will choose how and when the world will come to its end. If everything ends up burning up then they will be saved in the rapture so who cares. They also have a natural deep founded hatred of science and anything adored or believed by anyone who even farts slightly to the left. Then you have people like Ken Ham telling children to never believe what scientist tell you if it goes against the bible. So, it's easy to understand where the cog is missing in the machine.
  9. So, the last church that I went to was a fundamentalist King James Version only independent baptist church. This church was pastored by a man who has studied the Bible his entire life and we used t talk quite a bit about my doubts and faith. One time I asked him if he could explain the Council of Nicea to me a little bit and he told me that he had never heard of it. I didn't bother to "explain" it to him, because I felt that he was being dishonest. Is it possible that someone could be a graduate of a Bible college and self identify as a bible expert yet not know anything about the Council of Nicea or do you think that he was lying?
  10. Thanks to everyone who has responded. I have definitely been thinking about what every one has said and I'm sure this isn't the end of it. I'm going to take everyones advice and play it cool from now on. Unless she brings something up on her own.
  11. I told my wife that we are too poor for God and that if he wants donations he will have to the financial harvest or whatever weird farming terminology they like to use. Thanks for sharing. I really appreciate it.
  12. @MOHO Yea, I guess she's probably heard a lot about it in her time. I'm also sure that she's maybe thinking this is some sort of phase and that I'm going to switch back any minute. It's been pretty calm the last few days, but there has been a noticeable rift between us.
  13. So, I hope I don't incur any judgement here. I'm so confused in my current family setting that I don't know what to do. As I mentioned in my introduction post I've severely fallen out of the faith, but my wife and kids (all under 10...except for the wife....shes 27 lol) are still in the faith. Rachel (wife) has been looking for a new church since she had a bad experience at the small fundamental baptist church she was attending. She for some reason really wanted me to go to check out this newer, more modern charismatic church with her. I'm not sure why, because she says I'm obsessed with religion and will not shut up about it (truth). So, we go to this place and its got coffee bars and computers that you use to check your kids in. They have multiple services a day and it's packed. Anyway, the pastor comes on talking about how our lives are like the sunrise to sunset and eventually we will all die and how nice it would be to have the sweet shepherd Jesus to shepherd us somewhere fancy. He then goes on to talk about King Herod and says "See, the Bible is telling you all this historically accurate stuff so you know you aren't believing in fairy tales". I made a note on my phone to my wife that said "historically accurate context doesn't validate religious beliefs or corroborate the other parts of the story". Then he later has the gall to say that Herod was a very, very insecure leader, because he killed all of those toddlers while trying to get Jesus. I made another note that said "Herod kills toddlers and is a disgusting abomination, but tots ok when God does it". I really couldn't believe that he went on that much about the toddler thing. Anyway, she asked me how the service was and I very gently and calmly picked it a part and she got so defensive out of nowhere. She starts yelling at me about how we agreed to raise our kids a certain way and that I've had beliefs in the past that I've moved on from (conspiracies and the like). I keep trying to explain to her that it's actually great that I'm constantly changing and trying to find new information, but for some reason that's a fault to her. Like, if i'm not stuck in the same ridiculous place with faith my entire life that somehow my opinions aren't valid. I went onto tell her about all the new information I've come across and she didn't want to hear it. I lost it after about 20 minutes of being berated and told her if she was a real christian than she should meet me where I'm at and look at the information I have and help me through it. She said that she would, but I don't think she ever will. Then she goes onto say that shes worried about the kids going to hell over everything and that it's better to just believe. I'm so frustrated with everything and everyone is always making me seem like a bad guy, because I won't be tortured with fear for absolutely no valid reason at all. It really took it out of me today. Anyway......maybe I should have cursed more? Not a very good rant, eh?
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