Weezer

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About Weezer

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    Kansas
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    A diversity of interests. Truth. Humanity. Reading. Writing. Trail riding. Travel.
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    Curious Agnostic. Humanist. Ex-church of Christ. Retired Clinical Social Worker. Love to travel and have a wide variety of interests. Have had over 100 editorial letters and statements published. At 76 years of age, am the oldest of a group of dirt bike riders.

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  • Still have any Gods? If so, who or what?
    HA! My dirt bike! Seriously, Goodness. Agnostic.

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  1. Weezer

    How do I deal with their greed?

    In their own eyes your parents may think they are doing the right thing. But it sounds to me like they are being selfishly controlling. And the controlling likely will not end with your education. It is your life. Do with it what you wish. My wife and I have children and grandchildren, and have been happy with any honorable education/occupation they chose. And helped them pay for it when needed. I am reading a story about the middle ages in England, and that kind of demand on a child sounds like something from that period. Have faith in yourself, and choose your own path.
  2. Weezer

    Feeling sucked back into Christianity

    The religion factor may contribute to your panic attacks, but if you want to get to the root conditioning that feeds them, look at your family of origin dynamics. A competent psychiatrist would probably be more help than any religious guru. The dynamics of panic attacks can be very complicated, and the fear of abandonment can be involved.
  3. Weezer

    Ooops! Did I go too far?

    I am reading Ken Follett's new book, A Column Of Fire. I know it is historical fiction, but his depiction of how the Catholic Church handled the protestant rebellion seems pretty accurate from other reading I have done. Looking at the mayhem and bloody gore that went on, i guess we have it pretty easy compared to what the protestant heretics went tnrough. At least we aren't being drawn, quartered, and burned at stake. HA! I guess there is always something we can be thankful for! And to think the Catholics did that sort of thing for centuries is almost unthinkable. If you haven't read any of his work, I highly recommend all his books. I think I have read them all. His history seems accurate, and I have enjoyed all of them.
  4. Weezer

    Ooops! Did I go too far?

    I could tell she was honestly hurt, and I did apologise with no qualifying. Even before I posted here. I just needed to vent. It is really frustrating to spend 30 agonizing years honestly trying to determine truth on an extremely important subject, and when you have clearly found it, be ignored, yelled at, and in a sense shunned, at least emotionally, by many in the family, and many friends. I have intellectually been aware of this for years, but I think the emotional weight of the loneliness, sadness and anger came crashing down in our discussion night before last. I am really beginning to feel the abandonment. But the truth is so clear, I could never go back. And knowing how the believers think, in a sense, they think I have abandoned them. What a mess!! Writing this is therapeutic. Thanks for listening, and responding.
  5. Weezer

    Ooops! Did I go too far?

    Thanks for the responses. This morning, as I look back on last night's post, I ask myself why I made it. I dont even drink, so can't blame it on being drunk! My ego got the best of me. We human beings are perplexing creatures. With our denials of reality, refusals to look at all sides of issues, and blindly following heros and "holy ones", it is no wonder we have so many problems in society. Early despots knew what they were doing when they came up with the concept of original sin. To keep control of the masses, we are conditioned to believe there are some things you just don't question.
  6. I left the church, and shortly after became agnostic, about 20 years ago. My wife continued to attend, but eventually got tired of going by herself. Said she didn't feel like she fit in anymore. She has said several times she misses going, and feels something is missing in her life. To me she never had any really strong convictions, and never studies her Bible. It must be that strong early conditioning that she "should" go to church. Her family attended church, but we're certainly not zealots. We were both shocked when Trump was elected. Literally felt nauseous. I have been amazed at times about how well she can read people, especially men. Last night she was telling me about something Trump had done, and made a comment something like, "don't people understand how devious the man is? I just don't understand how they can have faith in him." She was mainly talking about our politicians, but several in her family and mine support him. She understands the political influence and party loyalty, thinking it is pathetic, with which I agree. I proceeded to tell her I thought it was because some, like our relatives, had limited information about him, and about what is in our society's best interest. Almost all our relatives only watch Fox news, and are very right wing. They think that "liberals" are in bed with the devil. She was very emotional and continued with how stupid they are. I said that sometimes good people have "blind spots". Can be very rational about some things, but blind about other things. She said something like, "It just doesn't make sense." Then I stuck my foot in my mouth, and said, "sometimes people only see what they want to see. They don't want information that disagrees with what they already believe." She said something like, "that's not very smart." Then I reminded her that she has never read my essay about my search for truth. She still believes in the Christian God, but has never looked at the evidence. That set her off! She yelled, "Thats not the same as Donald Trump." My reply was, "it's not??" Needless to say, I have received a very cold shoulder for the last 24 hours. Explanation: For 10 years after writing my paper, and it was very obvious I was writing it, she has never asked to read it. I offered it once when it was near completion, she read a few pages, never said a word, put it down, and never picked it up again. I felt slighted, but never said anything. The feeling came back in our conversation about Trump last night. But that was obviously not a good time to try to make a point. You guys and gals be my coach, or therapist, or whatever. Where would you go from here? We are both in our mid 70s, she is a good woman and mother, and we have been married 50 years. There is some concern she has beginning dementia, and LOL, I'll admit I'm not as sharp as I used to be.
  7. Excellent video. Wish I had watched it before a conversation with my wife last evening. She has been understanding---no, I should say tolerant---to a point, for over 20 years. But I pushed a little too far last night. It is interesting how people can be very perceptive in some areas, and blind in others. I'll start a new thread about it, and would like some feedback.
  8. Weezer

    Not sure..but I’ve had a crazy journey

    Welcome! You are a smart, brave woman. Like you, reading the old testament was one of the things that really got me to questioning God and the Christianity myth. I believe you will find a lot of support here. Hang in there!!
  9. Weezer

    Shared Experiences and Hello

    Welcome! Giving up the community of church was difficult for me also. But there are other "communities" where you can find friendships. Hang in there!!
  10. People often see characteristics in others, that they have inside themselves. Christians trying to lure others to their belief, think all atheist are doing the same.
  11. Weezer

    Aw crap! She knows.

    Some very good responses above to your dilemma. Also remember you do not have to discuss it with them. Tell them you value the relationships with them, and it is not dependent on the religion, and you don't want to discuss it further. Ask them to respect your decisions, and your honesty, and you will respect theirs. And if you feel like you need to respond, I also recommend writing out your explanations. Writing it out is good therapy and will help you gel, or organize you own thoughts. And it's not as easy to ignore something in writing, as it is something said verbally. As to attending church with them, do what ever feels right for you. At the time I "came out" I was trying out a Unitarian Universalist church. I ask my relatives if they would, in turn, go to church with me. HA! That ended that discussion. I never attended another of their worship services. If they want to discuss the Bible with you, ask them if they will, in turn, read some articles from this site, or books written by agnostics and atheist. Also told my relatives I very well knew their arguments. Had used them myself for years. Would they seriously consider the new information I had gathered? That was the end of that discussion. I have come to the conclusion there are 3 areas where people aren't interested in truth. They just want their ears "tickled" with their preconceived ideas and fantasy. Religion, politics, and romantic love.
  12. I haven't read the whole list, so someone may have already said this. But I still am torn as to what to do when at a family reunion, or large gathering, they say, "please bow while we pray." I have gotten several laughs from this thread, and will go back and read more when have the time.
  13. Weezer

    Hello, and the reason for my username

    Welcome! Joining this forum was a good choice. The story about the rats was one of the oddest I have heard. But there are some really "odd", and sick people in the religious world.
  14. Weezer

    The danger of Christianity

    It is great that you have found this site. As an old saying goes, HANG IN THERE! You have found support here. I would also highly recommend you see a counselor at your college, a trusted Doctor, or someone at a Mental Health center to help you through your immediate situation, and help you make sure you are safe. Also, I hope you come to realize the witchcraft is in a way like Christianity. It only has as much power over you as you let it have. I know you need to move at your own pace, but don't give up!
  15. Did he have that nickname?