Weezer

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About Weezer

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    Kansas
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    A diversity of interests. Truth. Humanity. Reading. Writing. Trail riding. Travel.
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    Curious Agnostic. Humanist. Ex-church of Christ. Retired Clinical Social Worker. Love to travel and have a wide variety of interests. Have had over 100 editorial letters and statements published. At 76 years of age, am the oldest of a group of dirt bike riders.

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  • Still have any Gods? If so, who or what?
    HA! My dirt bike! Seriously, Goodness. Agnostic.

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  1. I echo the above statement and question. Was there anything else that attracted you to each other? Do you enjoy being together? Doing things together? My wife and I have been married 50 years. I left religion after 30 years of marriage, but we had enough in common to hold us together. One person leaving their faith isn't too uncommon, so if you both want to stay together, you can likely make it happen.
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    How to respond?

    Also, in a sense it is a "put down." They feel superior in knowledge. Which is a laugh. Most atheist, agnostics, etc know more about the bible than the average christian.
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    How to respond?

    I especially like that suggestion! Thanks for all your responses, and listening to my rant. I just bought a book that addresses these religious/moral thinking issues. Looking forward to reading, MORAL ANIMAL, by Robert Wright.
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    How to respond?

    Thanks for the suggestions. So far it has been people who I know fairly well, but not close friends. I tell myself I shouldn't offend them, but would like to prompt their thinking. Oh, what the heck. A part of me wants to tactfully offend them! I also thought about simply saying, "Thanks. And I will pray for you." And see where it goes from there. Prayer doesn't have to be to a deity. It can be a sincere, or urgent request, petition or hope. If they don't understand that, and ask for an explanation, maybe about who I would pray to, I can explain, and say I am sincerely hoping they might have a more open mind to different views. Maybe I am thin skinned, but I can't help but feel insulted when someone who has only scratched the surface of religion, after I have told them I prayed to find truth and studied religion for 30 years, tells me they will pray for me when I tell them I am now agnostic. I really have mixed feelings and have to keep reminding myself they were brain washed and are in deep denial. Jesus, if he really existed, really knew what he was talking about when he called his followers sheep. Too many people will follow "hero's" around like lost sheep. LOL, Trump also figured this out. I need to stop this rambling and get to bed. It's been a long day. Anyone else have thoughts on this subject?
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    How to respond?

    It happened again. A Christian acquaintance, upon learning I am now agnostic, said she would pray for me. This has happened several times through the years and each time I have not responded. I have though of responding by saying something like, "And I will pray that you might develop an open mind." Feedback please as to how you respond to these situations.
  6. For years now I have had this desire to take a paint stick and paint feet on those fish. Have yet to do it. You might be an ex-Christian and fully deconverted if all your night time dreams are now pleasant.
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    Hello!

    Perhaps this might help you with decision making. I stopped asking what God would have me do, and began asking what Good would have me do. In a sense good is now my god.
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    Hello!

    Thanks for posting that. It helped me connect some dots. And reinforce the idea that religions in general have evolved along with the moral and scientific evolution of mankind.
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    I Just Realized That I Don't Want to Be a Christian...

    Welcome! You are asking good questions, and have come to what I consider some rational, logical conclusions. You are on the right path and have excelent ability to continue the journey. It takes time, but things will get clearer as you go along. Travel at your own pace. It took me 30 years of off and on study to get to the point of being comfortable and secure with myself and my own spirituality. My church beginnings were similar to yours and I understand your reluctance to leave Jesus behind. I never left him completely behind. I still cling to "his" doctrine of loving neighbor as self, but deciced he was not "divine" like we were taught in church. By the way, the doctrine is not original, or exclusive to him. It can't be proven he actually existed, but I think he probably did, and considering the context of the situation he lived in, and his "conditioning" as a child, he honestly believed he was a savior. Whether real or not, it is a valuable myth, and the basic message attributed to him has had a positive influence on the world. If you haven't already, read the testimonials section. They will help you sort through your questions. The one I wrote is long, but is a step by step story of my search, and may be of help. HANG IN THERE! P.S. my testimony is called, "Personal story: Truth. A gradual awakening"
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    How do I deal with their greed?

    In their own eyes your parents may think they are doing the right thing. But it sounds to me like they are being selfishly controlling. And the controlling likely will not end with your education. It is your life. Do with it what you wish. My wife and I have children and grandchildren, and have been happy with any honorable education/occupation they chose. And helped them pay for it when needed. I am reading a story about the middle ages in England, and that kind of demand on a child sounds like something from that period. Have faith in yourself, and choose your own path.
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    Feeling sucked back into Christianity

    The religion factor may contribute to your panic attacks, but if you want to get to the root conditioning that feeds them, look at your family of origin dynamics. A competent psychiatrist would probably be more help than any religious guru. The dynamics of panic attacks can be very complicated, and the fear of abandonment can be involved.
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    Ooops! Did I go too far?

    I am reading Ken Follett's new book, A Column Of Fire. I know it is historical fiction, but his depiction of how the Catholic Church handled the protestant rebellion seems pretty accurate from other reading I have done. Looking at the mayhem and bloody gore that went on, i guess we have it pretty easy compared to what the protestant heretics went tnrough. At least we aren't being drawn, quartered, and burned at stake. HA! I guess there is always something we can be thankful for! And to think the Catholics did that sort of thing for centuries is almost unthinkable. If you haven't read any of his work, I highly recommend all his books. I think I have read them all. His history seems accurate, and I have enjoyed all of them.
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    Ooops! Did I go too far?

    I could tell she was honestly hurt, and I did apologise with no qualifying. Even before I posted here. I just needed to vent. It is really frustrating to spend 30 agonizing years honestly trying to determine truth on an extremely important subject, and when you have clearly found it, be ignored, yelled at, and in a sense shunned, at least emotionally, by many in the family, and many friends. I have intellectually been aware of this for years, but I think the emotional weight of the loneliness, sadness and anger came crashing down in our discussion night before last. I am really beginning to feel the abandonment. But the truth is so clear, I could never go back. And knowing how the believers think, in a sense, they think I have abandoned them. What a mess!! Writing this is therapeutic. Thanks for listening, and responding.
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    Ooops! Did I go too far?

    Thanks for the responses. This morning, as I look back on last night's post, I ask myself why I made it. I dont even drink, so can't blame it on being drunk! My ego got the best of me. We human beings are perplexing creatures. With our denials of reality, refusals to look at all sides of issues, and blindly following heros and "holy ones", it is no wonder we have so many problems in society. Early despots knew what they were doing when they came up with the concept of original sin. To keep control of the masses, we are conditioned to believe there are some things you just don't question.
  15. I left the church, and shortly after became agnostic, about 20 years ago. My wife continued to attend, but eventually got tired of going by herself. Said she didn't feel like she fit in anymore. She has said several times she misses going, and feels something is missing in her life. To me she never had any really strong convictions, and never studies her Bible. It must be that strong early conditioning that she "should" go to church. Her family attended church, but we're certainly not zealots. We were both shocked when Trump was elected. Literally felt nauseous. I have been amazed at times about how well she can read people, especially men. Last night she was telling me about something Trump had done, and made a comment something like, "don't people understand how devious the man is? I just don't understand how they can have faith in him." She was mainly talking about our politicians, but several in her family and mine support him. She understands the political influence and party loyalty, thinking it is pathetic, with which I agree. I proceeded to tell her I thought it was because some, like our relatives, had limited information about him, and about what is in our society's best interest. Almost all our relatives only watch Fox news, and are very right wing. They think that "liberals" are in bed with the devil. She was very emotional and continued with how stupid they are. I said that sometimes good people have "blind spots". Can be very rational about some things, but blind about other things. She said something like, "It just doesn't make sense." Then I stuck my foot in my mouth, and said, "sometimes people only see what they want to see. They don't want information that disagrees with what they already believe." She said something like, "that's not very smart." Then I reminded her that she has never read my essay about my search for truth. She still believes in the Christian God, but has never looked at the evidence. That set her off! She yelled, "Thats not the same as Donald Trump." My reply was, "it's not??" Needless to say, I have received a very cold shoulder for the last 24 hours. Explanation: For 10 years after writing my paper, and it was very obvious I was writing it, she has never asked to read it. I offered it once when it was near completion, she read a few pages, never said a word, put it down, and never picked it up again. I felt slighted, but never said anything. The feeling came back in our conversation about Trump last night. But that was obviously not a good time to try to make a point. You guys and gals be my coach, or therapist, or whatever. Where would you go from here? We are both in our mid 70s, she is a good woman and mother, and we have been married 50 years. There is some concern she has beginning dementia, and LOL, I'll admit I'm not as sharp as I used to be.