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freshstart last won the day on December 7 2020

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    I'm a former Christian in search of more like-minded free-thinkers

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  1. On this we can agree! Religion, Christianity, belief in Christ has done nothing to advance humanity.
  2. On what grounds do you believe we are worse off than we were in the days you were able to pick up a hitchhiker? Women have more rights, racism had lessened, more people are better educated, medical treatment has improved, and the list goes on and on.
  3. Hmmm. This is not what I'm seeing. What source do you use? I use https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/ which shows a very sharp increase in active cases. Seems like there is more of a see-saw trend with overall increase.
  4. For me, headache lasted off-and-on for weeks, but finally went away. That was a common reaction among my family members. It should still be reported as a vaccine reaction. You can do that here: https://vaers.hhs.gov/ Although, not sure if you need to be a US citizen to do that? I'm so sorry to hear this .
  5. Personally, it doesn't really matter to me that SS is not following a usual pattern of conversational discourse - as long as things remain civil (if not a little boring). Without knowing why SS wants to know more about what ex-Cs believe, it is hard to interpret why SS does not particularly engage in a way that would be more meaningful.
  6. I would genuinely like to know why, SouthernSound. Why does a Christian care or want to know more about what apostates believe? Are you preparing a sermon? Hoping to demonstrate to someone in your life that there is a huge void in the after-Christian life? You certainly won't be able to demonstrate that here. Life is freer, richer, and fuller for most of us (maybe all of us?) after shedding mythological beliefs. For me it was like removing blinders that were blotting out the truth. The truth is a double-edged sword. It can be both a relief as well as a little disappointing. I don't have all the answers anymore. But the truth is I never did anyway. I just thought I did. I hope you understand that, by this definition of a Christian, ^^^ almost everyone here is an ex-authentic-Christian. Given the name, I'm guessing SouthternSound is from somewhere in the American "bible belt." Would we be correct to assume that?
  7. Well its all a moot point now - for my state. They just announced that religious exemptions will not be allowed. (This was already the case for MMR). I have mixed feelings about mandates, but I will say my colleagues are reporting that virtually every person who has landed in a couple of the area MICUs due to covid (all unvaccinated, mostly younger people than previous waves) has changed their tune about vaccination. Another colleague had a covid+ baby admitted from an antivax religious community. Family also refused Vitamin-K shot. Baby had a brain bleed and died (vitamin K could have prevented this). A handful of covid+ women have also delivered their babies while sedated and ventilated in the past month. A woman from another city (same situation) is too unstable to transport to our area. When the pandemic first started, the news used to report stats on all covid admissions to area hospitals (ages, comorbidities, etc.). I guess people are covid-news-fatigued and that hasn't been reported for some time. If reporting had continued with the same level of detail, perhaps more (younger) people would choose vaccination. But who knows. My guess would be headache is quite possibly vaccine-related. I had a terrible headache that lasted quite awhile. Other family members experienced headache as well. Most people I know had to call off from work first day after the second dose (myself included). By the 48-hour mark, most everyone I know feels fine. I hope the same will be true for you!
  8. So you are interested in what ex-Christians believe. That's cool. I'm curious. Does this come from a genuine desire to understand? Or are you attempting to achieve other goals? I ask because other Christians who stop by with a similar opening statement often have no desire to really understand the ex-christian journey. It is more about trying gather information in order to mount an argument. Not saying that is the case with you. Just wondering if you might be an exception.
  9. So where I am, the vaccine is mandated for all health care workers. I'm in a position where I manage - among other things - clinical students entering our facility. So far I have received 3 requests for religious exemption based on the students' Christian beliefs, (no Catholics because it is "pope approved."). One of them changed their mind and got the vaccine, but the other two. . . are over the top, even threatening in their tone. One of the arguments that come up (and my counterpoints) follow: Fetal stem cells were used to develop these vaccines. (There is some truth to this: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06/abortion-opponents-protest-covid-19-vaccines-use-fetal-cells however (1) HCWs have already been mandated for decades to have the MMR vaccine which used the same research technology https://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/human-cell-strains-vaccine-development The Students are vaccinated with MMR. (2) Furthermore, it would seem following this logic that the students should object to receiving a life-saving organ transplant if it comes from a murder or suicide victim. Afterall, that would be profiting from an immoral event, right? Yet, I don't hear objections to this from the same Christian circles. Honestly, behind closed doors, I believe there is a significant number of Christians who DO believe it is the mark of the beast. But interestingly they don't talk about it to or among secular groups. Why not include that in their religious objection statements? (Maybe because they know how fucking crazy it sounds?) As for serious side effects from the vaccine, for me, its just simple math. I wear a seatbelt because even though there have been reported injuries as a result of seatbelt use, this is extremely rare. The science demonstrates that, overall, seatbelts are safe and effective. I'm due to get a booster next month.
  10. Totally agree. Better to pontificate than to try to interpret all this boring sciency stuff. It does get old.
  11. What I claim is that science can offer stastistical probabilities about what may or may not happen to Y when X is implemented. There is a statistical probablity out there that says if I wash my hands thoroughly before I perform a medically invasive procedure, it decreases the chances of creating a vector for pathogens to enter you during that procedure. But it does not guarantee that you will not develop an infection related to that procedure, (nor is there a guarantee that I will scrub properly). In fact, many people do develop post-procedural infections. It seems by your logic I should give up handwashing because there is no guarantee that it can prevent the spread of microbes? I'm sincerely baffled.
  12. And then there are scientific views. The science clearly supports mask-wearing (and condom- wearing) as effective (not perfect) in helping to prevent the spread of communicable disease. The personal anecdotal evidence you present is equivalent to the argument that I should not bother to wear a seat belt because there are many people who have died in car accidents wearing seat belts, and furthermore, as long as I stay off the expressways away from others, that should keep me safe enough. There may be even be personal experience to support some truth in this argument (perhaps I know someone who died in a car accident wearing a seatbelt or I know someone who got pregnant despite condom use). Yet it doesn't mean that I should use this personal evidence as being applicable to the general population or to me, for that matter, in my future behaviors. Because science points to other conclusions ( in general, seat belts help save lives, condoms help prevent pregnancy, and masks help prevent spread of respiratory infections).
  13. You don't even have to postulate. Its well known that cloth masks do not offer the same filtering effectiveness as what is popularly known as "surgical masks," hence cloth masks are not allowed to be worn by health care workers in health care settings (unless worn over a surgical mask - for some facilities). Also N95s have higher filtering capability and a tighter fit (if the user is properly fit-tested for the right size and style). As for "properly controlled studies," the ethical and logistical barriers are similar when studying other public health initiatives, for example, condom use. Yet we don't seem to hear people proclaiming that condoms are useless and ineffective. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-72798-7#Sec12
  14. The concluding statement in the abstract for the resource you provided reads as follows: The results of this study provide evidence of droplet transmission prevention by face masks, which can guide their use and further improvement. I think we have to be careful about making sweeping statements (masks are "ineffective, pointless," etc.) when it flies in the face of conventional scientific wisdom. And of course masks do not offer "total protection." Nothing does. I've been wearing masks long before covid (and certainly during covid) to help protect me (not my patients) against flu and other diseases spread by droplets. And I'm pretty sure if it were possible to give you a tour of a covid unit, you'd want to wear a mask - even if it wasn't required. Here is another resource (among many others) supporting the use of masks as an effective strategy (not total prevention) against covid. https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118
  15. I'm saying, simply put, that masks offer some level of protection to the wearer if worn and handled properly. There is a lot of research in progress as well as speculation about what the best course of action will be as this pandemic evolves into what will likely become endemic. The rate at which people become immune over time (through vaccination or post-infection), the rate at which the virus mutates, and the rate at which our vaccine technology evolves will be key factors (among many other variables).
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