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  1. There is a mistake we often make when judging belief systems - that us judging them by our beliefs only. It that thing "just" means you already have a standard of justice which may or may not be part if the belief system you are looking at. A faith only system could reply that "justice" is a divine decree so anything God does is just by default. There is no outside "standard" upon which to judge God. A divine command theory of justice. In Orthodoxy "faith" has a very quirky definition in many texts. Not just trust but a sort of direct connecting energy towards God ( from a sermon from the sitting Romanian Patriarch). I venture to say that most ideas in Christianity have different explanations in Orthodox East. With other issues, but still. This direct connecting energy to the divine through divine grace is both the power to do good deeds, and is strengtened by good deeds. And Paul himself says this when he says that people have the Law inside them and act accordingly. Also there is a difference to be made between Gospel good and fallen nature good. Orthodox mystical theology is pretty interesting on a purely intelectual/ literary level :).
  2. Worships Jesus Christ. Well, there are numerous ways people have defined worship and Jesus Christ. And interpret the Bible. Wars have been fought. Blood spilled over it. So saying only that is too broad. I could label myself as some kind of hard agnostic. In that, now, I see our situation as beings in an Impossible situation to "know" truth, indeed that term makes no sense at an absolute level. It is like asking water how does a rock feel. It is just a weird question. There are some Christian pararels where Christian hesychasts said that God's essence is unknowable and unimagineable but we know his uncreated energies. So I'm an an agnostic on the absolute existential level, but a rational empiricist of sorts on the relative level. That is using reason and sensation to build diverse ever changing ever verifying models of reality.
  3. Apostasy is just the Christian term. I mean, I get why people feel icky about the term and have a bad sometimes traumatic history with it, BUT it's just a specialized jargon inside a specific theological system. It is like medical jargon for that matter. As to what people believe, feel free to read around.
  4. I have come to admore the mind's ability to make stuff up. You get great art and science and philosophy but also Scientology. It seems to me like a package deal :).
  5. Edit. I mean Indo have part naturalist explanation for the anti sex attitude in the Church or what is the general connection between instincts , especially sexual urges, and morality and self image ( good, bad) but for another time.
  6. Hi. Be in peace. I do wonder why the bisexual thing got you, in my case sexual feelings in general were regarded as most something you can do in marriage, but preferably, as Paul said, do not. :)). Yeah, I know, it is seen as more evil. But again, in my case, seeing and admitting that you are a depraved being in constant need of forgiveness was the baseline. You weren't supposed to ever feel that good about yourself anyway. Well, I found two main resources - cult books - Steve Hassan, Alexandra Stein, Robert Lifton, etc. ICSA international cultic association. Second - books from other religions written by practitioners - Shamanism of various kinds, Buddhism, Taoism, Zoroastrianism, and religious history - Egyptian, Mesopotamian, Greek, Roman, pre christian Europe. Hope you find them useful. I recently had the insight that Hell is like an OCD thought for me - the more entertain and discuss with it, the more it drags you into unsolvable anxiety. Research it, observe it, understand its effect, very good. Enter into a prolongue dialogue with, neah.Idk may this helps.
  7. Funny how even Jains use them, and the praxis of Jainism and Nazism couldn't more different. ( Monks wear mouth cloth to avoid unintended killing of insects and microscopic life)
  8. Well I hope belief in flags will collapse soon, as well. :)) In America as well. Nationalism is just religion with new attire. People get attached to flags like to crosses. And, for the more good than bad, of course like any Christian will vehemently defend his religion's net benefit.
  9. I don't get nationalism, but , strangely enough I do have a strong reaction to the national hymn. It was written during the long fight for independence and unificatio in Romania and I just find it very touching, emotionally. It literally says to fight for freedom or die trying. I find it very inspiring on a personal level, altough filled with Christian terminology in one stanza. Also I recently started to have a truer admiration for my ancestors, mostly peasants. My great grandfather fought in wwI, his son in WWII, etc. Just an appreciation of their very real struggles and sacrifices so I started to dislike the outright , - well they were backward people let's look to the "civilised" West attitude. I don't have a medal for fighting in the antifascist war like my granfather so... while criticism is valid, a level respect is also owed. Granted it is a more of a respect your elders stuff then performative nationalism. I call it a critical respect for my ancestors.
  10. I have encountered it or some form of it, I admit. It is weird bk even in religions of jainism with it's emphasis on self development, and that karma makes bad stuff, they do acknowledge behaviour as a big part not just the mental. I'm woo fan but my kind of woo is , should I say, sort of body positive and more mind body equality.
  11. I personally have contact with an ordained daoist priest/university phd in contemplative studies, translator of ancient chinese. The works. I discussed some health issues one time. There is no such idea that "wrongthink" from what I gather, is the root of all diseases. Authentic TCM ( trad chinese med) uses a whole host of diagnostic and treatment modalities, which are still studied at uni level and modified and improved upon till this day. Why would they use those of they think it is all wrongthink? This ignorance or degrading of the body seems foreign to chinese culture where emotions have assigned body parts, where the highest spirit resides in the physical heart. Plus , they do think we are part of the Dao to some extent so it isn't just "we" as cause or effect of stuff. New age stuff seems to have a very capitalist individualistic spirit undearneath all the language, which I find incompatible with most ancient cultures anyway. "I" cause X, "I" solve X with MY mind Furthermore I DID read a book by a psychotherapist detailing cases of cancers in remission, pain, etc resolving after trauma treatment, but they would not say it is all bk of mental stuff.
  12. Hello, You people who suffered , suffer from anxiety. Did your sleep suffer because of it? Nightmares, insomnia, lack of restful sleep, etc. All stuff. My thing is highly intense dreams ( not necessarily nightmares) and lack of restful sleep.
  13. Like was said, "good" is variable as a standard. You couod say "good" is the ideal standard of a person/community. The "law" in a way. I mean fear of Hell, terror actually, is considered a good thing in many Christian circles.
  14. I wanted to make a thread asking just that. If you know anyone who went back to some form of Christianity.
  15. Where did Seajay say he was diagnosed with that as the underlying issue? There is a bit of chicken and egg issue here. For ex, trauma from Christianity can cause anxiety, which causes you latch on to some teachings, which causes you more anxiety and so and so. Anxiety is a symptom. It is like being diagnosed with low stomach acid. That is only a symptom. In general modern psychiatry has not caught up with trauma theory, nutrition, neurology THAT well. If a dr is unfamiliar with Christian digma and its potential, he can easily diagnose OCD, bipolar, anxiety even schizophrenia. A psychiatry resident friend of mine told that exact thing happened. People who exit from cults often suffer from misdiagnosis like that. Read Steven Hassan. I also reccomend Dan Shaw and Alexandra Stein for some interesting obs. Plus Seajay said that one of his old therapists said fear of death was an underlying cause. There is a guy, Le doux I think, who wrote a book about anxiety and his obs about the biological underpinnings. I was cautioning against being very sure about how another's psyche actually works, that's all. My current philosophy is try, with open skepticism, and ser what works, especially long term and keep it as long as needed. Medication, meditation, counseling, body centered trauma work, quitting gluten, getting a dog, etc.
  16. First, fear of death is a natural thing probably most refined living beings feel somehow. It keeps us alive. Fear of pain and death is a survival mechanism. Problems can occur, I think, when this useful mechanism malfunctions some how. By the way, you shouldn't grasp non grasping as well. Holding to a belief like - I shouldn t be afraid if dying- is also counter productive. It is creating this ideal self which you measure to a perceived non ok self and it's the same rumination. Ajahn Sumedho is great on that. Also maybe there this great uncertainty of how dying really is. This is how I look at it. What I will say is you sure seem to puts lots of pressure on yourself to be one way or the other. Like you get very anxious around perceived imperfections in thinking feeling and behaving.
  17. I would not be so hasty in putting out diagnosis like that. Especially for someone you barely know. Trauma relating to spirituality can produce anxiety ( which cannot simply be "avoided "). Nor can Christianity itself be avoided by someone who has relatives or friends, ir neighbours involved. Also death anxiey is a real thing which has many books on it. Yalom has one about it. Or it can be something for childhood. Or lack of some nutrient. Or excess of it. Or some slow type of poisoning due to water. Or a genetic predisposition. And the list goes on. So I would hesitate in saying the exact cause,or the exact cure. No offense, but sadly anxiety as a symptom than can emerge from multiple single or clusters of causes.
  18. Well, the need for reassurance can go both ways. An absolute trust in your own opinions/reality gets you solipsism, an absolute, unquestioning trust in another gets you mental servutude and possibly brainwashing. I like to think of this as the middle good position is a skeptical openness to dialogue. And this a process where can and do get things wrong, more of less. But it has a built in correcting mechanism
  19. Yeah. Plus, let's say all current scientific theories are wrong ( incomplete, biased , etc any definition of wrong) . Evolution is wrong, quantum physics, germ theory of disease. So? That is WONDERFUL news for science. It means you can get to new, better models. Proving "science" wrong is what science does. . And the fact that he came to you. You were a Christian, with Christian friends in a predominant christian country. Running into a Christian telling how Christianity is true is not THAT impressive :))
  20. Kind of the opposite of the recomandation
  21. I read the whole story. Interesting character. I NEVER understood Christianity and nationalism. They seem so contradictory. Think what you may of Christianity but one of the things that really struck me was its adamant universalism and missionarism. I see this type of nationalism in my country as well. It is so weird in a way. I get there may be nuances and rational positions in the US about it. I mean I never got what US "people, nation" is supposed to be. I can probably trace my ancestors in these lands from the indoeuropean descent into Europe, but US "nationalism" kind of seems strange. Maybe that's the European native in me speaking :))
  22. That depends. Maybe you are happy and function well as a slave master. Or a pedophile So as long as your happiness does not rest on exploitation, I might want to add, just to get started :).
  23. It really depends what you mean by love and enemy. I mean God loves his enemies so much he sends them to eternal conscious torture. :))
  24. Honey on potaties seemes like a carb fest !!! :)) Not that protein rich.
  25. About that, I actually was told byba nutritionist that one way to deal with that is a eating a rich protein filled breakfast.
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