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Simone

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  1. Hi everyone,

     

    In my deconversion process, the unanswered prayers helped to go out as probably many of ex-christians. One of the most choquing experience is

    when I was in a pentecostal church and I remember a woman who was paralyzed with a horrible disease  (I do not remember the name

    of this disease but she had big pimples every where, it was not chickenpox) and  the pastors and church prayed for her healing but she never recovered.

    Same another time, a new born who was very sick, we prayed for him and he died. Theses two souvenirs have been traumatic and the point where I could

    not continue to believe in a God full of love.

     

    Recently I remembered two verses in the bible where it seems that Paul and Jesus do not agree

     

    In Mark 16:16

     

    Jesus said :

     

    Then he said to them, “You must go out to the whole world and proclaim the Gospel to every creature. He who believes it and is baptised will be saved, but he who disbelieves it will be condemned. These signs will follow those who do believe: they will drive out evil spirits in my name; they will speak with new tongues; they will pick up snakes, and if they drink anything poisonous it will do them no harm; they will lay their hands upon the sick and they will recover.”

     

    But Paul in 1 Corinthians 12:7

     

    Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. To one there is given through the Spirit a message of wisdom, to another a message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, 10 to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues,[a] and to still another the interpretation of tongues.[b] 11 All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he distributes them to each one, just as he determines.

     

    Jesus said as I myself understand that all believer should be able to heal by laying their hands upon the sick. But Paul mentions that the Holy Ghost gives different gifts and it seems that

    not all christians receive the gift of healing. So I conclude not every christian can heal the sick people.

     

    So don't be surprise that the bible is a mess !!

     

    Have you also noticed these contradictions ?

     

    And so many of us have been witnesses of no healing, unanswered prayers...when I think about these poor christians that needed so to be healed 🥺

     

    This is the reasons why I left christianity...Stopto believe to lies and false promises and go out of mind control. Good work !

     

     

  2. Thank you for your comments guys. 

     

    I agree.

     

    However I think I have now a bad reputation how people gossip and I know people gossiped behind my back.

    Now several firms know I have been in a cult and it could be difficult for me to find a new job. I have been fired

    in 2018 but for other reasons (economical reasons). Past boss speak to new boss as they take information

    about you when you hire a new job. This is how it happens in my country in Switzerland.

    It is a difficult situation and I am afraid that more boss know I have been in a christian cult.

     

  3. Hi everyone,

     

    When I was a christian I was very zealous for evangelism and also in my workplace.

    My reputation has been affected and today I am experiecing regrets and guilt

    And I do not find any issue in order to heal and let this guilt behind me.

    My deconversion is a long process with stages with time to time trying to return

    To religion but at least with all the contradictions I go away.again and again.

     

    How can I overcome the fact I warned about hell and the guilt of being not respectful

    and try to convert people ?

     

    Thanks a lot !

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    I’m still praying nightly and daily despite no answers. I ask for help and to stop things from continuously happening.. to stop the pain.. I ask for god to respond..I ask him to comfort me. Of course none of this happens .... 

    I feel desperate and still somehow still believe inside. I just can’t stop this. 

    What can I do..?

     

    I am very sorry for you. I started deconverting some years ago and returned to church in 2019. In the beginning I was glad but same problems occur again.

    Why God does not answer ? 

     

    It is difficult for me to completely leave because I know some missionaries who preach gospel and people received healing. They give their

    testimony. 

     

    So why some people are healed and some not ??

     

    After a short happiness being back in faith I feel again the brainwashing and the fear of leaving again faith.

     

    I really do not understand God. His behaviour, pretending being the good Shepherd and he never answers. Just leave you alone.

    How can we trust him ? Is it not manipulative behaviour ?

     

    How can we explain that some people have granted payers and some not ?

     

    Very difficult for me too....what to do ? going out again ?

     

    You sadness  makes me angry against God. It is not acceptable. He wants you faithful but there is no reciprocity.

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