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Christopherhays

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  1. They don’t seem to acknowledge the danger. They think it’s god’s plan and they’re betting everything on an afterlife. I’m pretty sure they’d welcome “persecution.” I was raised the same way as my brother so I know he can make it out too... but his church is so controlling. He lives and works with church members that keep him on track. I read a review from an ex member of the same church that said they left when the church leaders said god wanted them to switch jobs and housing.
  2. I wouldn't care so much if they identified as atheist... but I would want them to “believe what I believe” about the dangers of dogmatism and the importance of logical reasoning...
  3. I assume most of you would try to talk your wives/husbands out of joining a cult right? I think that’s closer to my situation with my brother. I don’t care if he’s an atheist, I just don’t think he should be openly evangelizing Christianity where he’s not welcome. A few members from his church (cult?) were held hostage by Islamic terrorists a while back. This is really dangerous stuff. Even my crazy homeschooling fundamentalist parents think his new church is too controlling... idk I just feel like I should do something. Maybe if my family wasn’t so extreme I wouldn’t have an issue.
  4. I can remember the first conversation I had that made me question my faith. I didn’t reject the religion instantly of course, but it got the ball rolling. I’m very thankful for that because I’m not wasting my life anymore. If you had close friends and family literally throwing their lives away for a lie, wouldn’t you want to do something? I’m mostly thinking of my brother who’s a missionary in the Middle East and has seen Christians targeting in bombings multiple times. I also have a close friend who’s a missionary in China and has to use code words and stuff to let us know he’s okay.
  5. Obviously you shouldn’t stay if you feel you’re wasting your time. My old church had paid musicians. Maybe you could offer your skills for hire and that would encourage them to hire a replacement soon while making it worth your time financially. Personally, I couldn’t stand being in church after my deconversion. It’s hard to hear all the BS without getting upset, so if it was me I’d just leave and wish them the best. You don’t owe them anything at this point.
  6. I’m definitely out of the religion, but I haven’t lost any family or friends because I haven’t told them I’m an atheist. My relationships are a bit hollow, and I can’t really be myself all the time... but I haven’t made any atheist friends so I guess I’m just waiting. Part of my reason for posting this is my desire to see the friends and family I do have free from religion. It would be great if just one could relate. I’ve never made friends easily and I still have allot of cult indoctrination and social setbacks to overcome before I’ll feel like I fit in with the “normal” crowd.
  7. Definitely not amongst the 10 of us around the same age. I’m going to see my best friend tomorrow. I moved away a few years ago and haven’t seen him since becoming an atheist. He was pretty miserable back in the day. He was always guilty about something, and his dad (the pastor) had crazy high expectations. I had a few conversations of doubt with him growing up but I think the doubt was mostly on my end I’m sure he’ll bring up religion and church tomorrow so we’ll see how that goes.
  8. I agree with everything you said... but I was once one of those crazy fundamentalist Christians, and I broke away from it. I had as much brainwashing as anyone, but it didn’t work in the end. Idk why I’m the only one.
  9. At Christmas dinner today the conversation was mostly about church and missions trips and god. There was probably 30+ of us there and everyone was fully participating in the testimonies and stuff. I actually made some excuse and left early... but what makes the rest of my family so religious? Why am I literally the only one that’s an atheist? Are others atheists too and just afraid to admit it? (I’ve never admitted it to family, but I don’t participate anymore) it kinda sucks seeing them all spend so much time and effort on religion. If they haven’t seen the flaws yet, is it even possible for them to give it up at this point?
  10. it’s very hard to determine tone with just text... so when you suggested I wanted to have sex slaves and beat people I think I responded appropriately. I’m glad you weren’t serious. The ham thieves at your work are exactly the people I want to avoid. I hate politically correct things. My college soccer team had two gay guys and we all shared a shower facility with very little privacy. I was literally the only one uncomfortable with it and everyone sorta hated me for that. My communications teacher showed a slideshow of nude women for an introduction on how to make slide shows. I was uncomfortable with that as well. The colleges are a scary place these days and I’m afraid I don’t fit in lol. I’m a bigot or sexist if I’m uncomfortable but I gotta give up my ham incase some Muslims are uncomfortable? It’s amazing how many women in this area are crazy far far left socialist types. If there’s normal atheist girls in LA I’ve never seen one lol.
  11. this is exactly what I hate. It’s like if people disagree with you they’re automatically bigot, murdering, nazi, slave owners... all my family and friends are religious. It’s been my entire world. I’m smart enough to know the books are outdated and ignorant... but there’s real people in these religions and they’re just trying to get through life the best they can. They’re still good people even if they don’t agree with you and even if they get things wrong.
  12. What I meant by an “old fashioned girl” is someone who doesn’t take offense at everything. Someone who doesn’t scream inequality when they don’t get a participation trophy... I want someone who doesn’t flaunt their body online and call it “empowerment”. Someone who values loyalty and respect.
  13. I’m not dating anyone right now... a girl I like is very Christian, but she’s the kind of girl I think I could settle down with. She’s old fashioned and sweet and really down to earth. My more progressive friends are just annoying to me. They’re mostly loud, slutty, and way too “woke”... maybe I’m part of the problem, but I want an old fashioned wife with a little farm and a no drama. I guess I’m just attracted to the kind of people that tend to be religious... maybe it’s how I was raised. I don’t think I’d mind going to church, sharing in that community, and being with that girl. I could probably put up with the BS. What do you think? bad idea?
  14. this has all really blown out of hand... I made a statement forever ago that ‘the worlds greatest country is in danger’ or something like that... it’s my opinion and was never meant to be an insult to other countries. The point is America is a great country and we need to recognize, appreciate, and protect it. That’s my point. I don’t think the left belittling our accomplishments helps anyone. I shouldn’t have to avoid saying patriotic things because people will take it wrong, be offended, or make false assumptions.
  15. you make excellent points! I agree with everything you said and you put it more clearly than I would’ve. I am indeed a republican and a trump supporter. I have been called racist and bigot, and I think someone suggested I was ‘immigrant-phobic’ in this thread when I stated opinions about ILLEGAL immigration.
  16. I think Americans naturally point out the good we do because the rest of the world is so quick to point out the bad. It’s kinda like cnn and fox spending more time countering each other than delivering the news... There’s allot of bad in our past. That’s true for most world powers. I see value in appreciating and recognizing the accomplishments of our country. I’m worried the left doesn’t appreciate what we have, and is more likely to f it up.
  17. Than why have a problem with me saying the US is the greatest country? Happiness and wellbeing is not greatness. Sitting on a beach in New Zealand for 80 years is less great than 1 day feeding children in Africa. The US consistently gives more in foreign aid than any other country. Why not use that metric? We also lead the world in medical research and innovation. Our breakthroughs in medicine and science have improved people’s lives in every nation. Why not use that metric? My school played a small part in the Green Revolution, which is credited with saving over a billion lives. That’s greatness. It’s not about being happy or healthy or getting everything right... it’s about solving problems and innovating new ways to improve the world. It’s about pushing yourself to the limits and leading others to a brighter future. That’s greatness. No country does this like the US.
  18. what would you say is the greatest country in the world based on your metrics?
  19. I’ve never heard Swedish music... I’ll have to check it out. I’m a country and rock fan... so all the greats in those genres are pretty much American. lord of the rings is the second best movie. Just behind Dark Knight and right before Empire Strikes Back (opinion) I don’t think New Zealand makes better movies than the US though... most of the best movies are made by American companies and I’m pretty sure lotr was too. what exactly are my religious ideas? I really want to know lol
  20. I don’t blame the immigrant at all. honestly with the wages they’re paying in Mexico I’d be happy coming here to work for minimum wage... immigration is fine, it just won’t work in socialist America. People will flock here for the handouts and the innovators will be choked out by rising taxes.
  21. our constitution was a huge leap forward in the evolution of limited government. We created it because England’s leadership was not giving us representation and thus stripping our freedom. innovation is not an American thing but we’re the best at it. I think the facts support that statement. It’s not that our military is the most powerful that makes us great. It’s the great things the military has accomplished. I admit there’s allot of bad things our military has done (especially 100+ years ago) but we’ve helped allot of people and deserve massive credit for our efforts and sacrifices during the world wars. name me one country that even comes close to the natural beauty and diversity of America. We have almost every kind of ecosystem from rainforests, to deserts, to tropics. We have unique natural wonders like the Grand Canyon and Yellowstone. We have incredible mountains and the lowest valley on the planet. if all this isn’t good enough for you, then by all means go live in Europe.
  22. Have you ever been to America? #1 Freedom. Our constitution was the first to limit government and give true freedom to a people by protecting their rights in a new way. Other great country’s copy our constitution. It’s one of the greatest contributions any government has ever made. #2 Innovation. Ever heard of the internet? Our military invented that! What about google, Apple, Amazon, Microsoft, IBM... all products of American innovation! We’ve been leading the world in creativity since we started! Things like the light bulb, telephone, airplane, and assembly line are triumphs of the American dream. What about our space program? We put a man on the freaking moon! We have over 300,000 patents, that’s second only to China! (We have more per person than China) #3 Military. I won’t say much about our military but no other military risks it’s lives for people the way we do. We won the largest wars the world has ever seen and we defeated the greatest threats the world has ever known. Not single handedly, but if we’re honest, we deserve allot of the credit. #4 Natural Resources. I’ve been to every state and every National Park and Monument... we are extraordinarily lucky to have such a beautiful country. No other nation has a greater diversity of nature (or people) than us. #5 entertainment. We make the best music, movies, and invented the best sports. I think that contributes to people’s well being more than one may expect. I could go on but I don’t want to write a book here. I recognize we have some skeletons in our closet, but that doesn’t erase all the good we’ve done and are still doing. The spirit of innovation, creativity, and ingenuity are what makes America great. That’s exactly what I’m afraid we’ll lose if we strip the most successful and creative people of their wealth and motivation.
  23. America receives more immigrants that any other country... And that’s just the legal ones I support. There are literally millions of illegal immigrants too and more coming every day. We have a party that wants to give these people all sorts of free stuff to win their vote, and they have no way to pay for it. If being scared of this situation makes me phobic then I guess I’ll accept that.
  24. it’s not that we hate immigrants. We want to make sure the people coming here respect and appreciate our country. What scares me is immigrants flocking here for government handouts and creating more socialist votes until the majority’s main voting concern is what they can get for free. That would be the end of the worlds greatest country, and I think it’s a realistic threat.
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