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Lost_more_then_Once

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    I am a Christian. Grew up with parents of different religions and looked for God on my own in my teens. Mid thirties, so I'm somewhat opinionated, just in the fact that I've formed them over the years, but I still try to be respectful, and open to at least listen.

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  • Still have any Gods? If so, who or what?
    The Christian God. Our Father in Heaven

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  1. Then this is a false hypothetical and why I said it would be better to have an actual case study and real situation to consider. I gave my answers, you didn't like them. Tough beans.
  2. And that stance is the one I will stand by. Consider it along the lines of "buyer beware" when someone is out shopping. If it's important enough for that person to know the product does what it claims to do, then they should look into it on their own. It's great if the sales person is honest and shows evidance that the product is actually good. However there are conmen and there are charlatans out there. If you really want to know if something is true or not it'll have to come down yo your own investigation anyways. If it doesn't matter enough though to investigate it that's also your cal
  3. I assure you I do question my conclusions and the claims that are in them. It is from several observations in my life that I have have reached the conclusions that I have regarding God being real. The question of what counts as coming from God and what doesn't, I take seriously. Some people say they can hear God, and I hope they really can. But I don't believe them without more information. At best I usually let their claim fall on the conclusion that it might be possible, and leave it there. Sometimes I go farther then that because I have reason to doubt them, or what they say I can tel
  4. How would you test my claims? What measure would you use? As far as I can tell the experiences I've observed are one time events. You can't reproduce them to test them. Or if you can reproduce them to text them I'm unaware how. In that aspect my claims must be rejected outright, or the must be considered as possible. If there's no way to test it then these are your alternatives. Again my observations are not subjective, they are observations. They either happened or they didn't. My conclusions based on my observations that can be argued and debated, but whether I
  5. Sorry if I missed the intent of the question or phrased it incorrectly. my practical advice for Josh would be to suspend both doubt and belief until more information is available. If both myself and a Muslim say the same claim concerning what God's done I. Our life, then it's quite possible that there is merit in that claim. After all this claim comes from two different perspectives. Neither one agrees with the other when it comes to religion. So if they both agree to an identical claim, that bolsters the merit of that claim. Again what Josh should to is suspend bot
  6. @LogicalFallacy also directed me to this discussion. It looks interesting. I don't know if I can add anything to it without my bring a Christian becoming an issue to derail the topic. It's a point from seeing the replies of @TEG leads to the issue that my presence , regardless of my intentions, will be assumed as a negitive with negitive intentions. So perhaps I should leave on my own terms before the sentiment grows and people are reaching for their torchs and pitchforks. Nonetheless, while I haven't finished reading it, I have one thing to add to it. In my opinion there are
  7. Awesome answers! Both science and the law use doubt as an active tool in what they do. However in both cases I would still say that in both cases the doubt that is used is a means to tear away the things that are not true, or to protect the innocent from being found guilty without a good reason. Neither case do you build on the doubt to create a foundation. With the courts the assumption is innocent until proven guilty. That can be considered doubt on believing the prosecutor (from the prosecutor's point of view) but just as easily it can considered assumed innoc
  8. I'll have to take you're word on that Christians have done here in the past or on the schedule of things. But whether I'm into a corner or not, do my responses act as a person backed into a corner? I've already given you my assessment on your question, and told you to make your point honestly. The question from there is why haven't you? Here let me be clear, I assume that your point is to pit one verse in the bible against another, and see if I measure up to either. But the open endedness of the question can go further then that and badger my relationship with my pare
  9. A political foundation in the way I meant it would be certian perspectives that are active in the political circles and effect how you things should be, regardless how they are or not. For instance if a person holds a political foundation that is centered around immigration (that it should be open because the country was started by immigrants; or that it should be further restricted to keep terrorists and other bad people out), then that foundation is the base on several other views they have, on actions they might take to support those views, and affect who they vote for. If it's important
  10. Hmm. But still the issue comes back to "how do you test it?" Think of a supernatural claim like a rare natural phenomon. For instance compare the supernatural claim that your house is haunted, with the rare claim that there are lights in the sky dancing as a natural phenomon. Now those dancing lights have been studied over the centuries, and because of this even if it is rare, there are tests on the claim of the dancing lights. Even to test on their rare occurance what are the causes behind them. Moving to ghost stories one person can say their house is haunted, but any haunte
  11. Perhaps your right. However I feel strongly that a person should offer more to a conversation then just doubt. If they do not intend to do so in that other conversation then I think they should be pointed out the pitfalls of that hypocritical and opurtunistic stance. I disagree. Memory might not get all the details correct but I'd argue that it gets the job done fairly well, most of the time. One other interesting point I heard once was that nowadays holding a reliable memory has becoming a lost skill. Back before the printing press, and mass produced ink and paper, people
  12. Depends. How are you testing the claim? There are surveys and questionnaire that are designed and worded to get a certian response. Then after they send out the surveys the results come back that most people agreed with the view they are trying to push. If this is the way one kind of sampling test works then there would be scrunity on how tests in general are done. How you test a claim is important. If you test a thousand claims with a weighted and compnman's scale, then you will get the results you hope for every time. It will point to no truth, only to what you want to hear
  13. Those of you interested I have a second thought for you. Because most of you would answer my thoughts, perspectives even my observations with the tag line "how do you know," I ask what are your thoughts, perspectives, and observations. I don't ask it as a means to turn the tables, I already know you apply the logic hypocritically, and that is not the focus I care about. But more so just to know what foundations that you do have. if you want to continue to try and get me to answer a challenge measured to spread doubt, then I first challenge you to put your answers to the topic of
  14. Second guessing has it's place in anyone's life, and it can be a good means of correcting ourselves and our philosophies. However doubt has no foundation to build on. What it's good at is tearing down a person's convictions, trust, and even hopes down until there is nothing left. If the doubt has merit so be it. But what about the times when doubt doesn't have merit. When a person doesn't act on a relationship because "how do I know, really know, that they love me..." Or when a person is crippled with indecision, "I just can't be sure which is the right choice..." Or even a q
  15. If it was the city's taxes then I think it should be up to that city's decision on how to use it. Every year where I live there are holiday decorations that the city puts out. Usually small things designate a holiday season like hearts around Valentine's Day, clovers around Saint Patrick's Day, holloween decorations in October. But best of all is the grand display of lights around Christmas time. All of the costs at some point undoubtedly came out of the city taxes. No reason to say other city decorations and that last in any season like statues, momuments and other items. Per
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