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  1. Wow, harsh penalty for asking that question!
  2. @Hierophant, Ah, thank you. I misinterpreted your question.
  3. How does a book using real locations prove it’s true? Lots of books mention locations that actually exist. Harry Potter is set in the UK. Neil Gaiman’s American Gods was set in real places all over the US, even using impressively specific real-life details about those places. Both stories are fantasy, even though they’re set in real locations.
  4. Welcome Jenni, I'm Katie. It's good to have you here. The "yes, no, maybe" of answered prayers certainly gets old eventually. I started wondering what the difference was between prayer and superstition. I got tired of praying for, say, a job, or a new apartment and then to have to still go out and do all the legwork! That didn't hit me until I attended a church where the prayer times went on for hours and hours and people would treat me as less than sincere when I needed to leave before it was over because of whatever reason it was that they decided wasn't legitimate. And then, after all those hours spent in prayer, having to still spend tons of time looking for the job or the relationship or the house or whatever it is! I stopped attending prayer sessions because it felt like such a waste of time! That was a mindtrip itself, because I knew how dedicated I was and how firmly I believed in prayer, and yet I felt so guilty about having a "bad attitude" about a 4 or 5 hour prayer session. Aron Ra talks about prayer never seeming to work until the chemo starts flowing. I saw that so clearly when this one pastor talked about his dad being "miraculously" cured of cancer. I was on my way out of that church at the time and was really suspicious so I asked a few questions. Turns out his father was being treated for cancer at one of the top oncology centers in the world! Suddenly the miraculous didn't seem so random any more and it gave more weight to me wondering what the point of praying was.
  5. I’ve been fascinated following along here but also so flipping confused!
  6. There’s a Chinese proverb that says: Make sure in fighting the dragon you don’t become the dragon. It sounds like your rage is consuming you. I understand wanting to bring a group down. Be careful you don’t take yourself with it.
  7. This is why I don’t bother arguing with believers. It’s just a waste of time & energy.
  8. Exactly! I listened to a podcast once where a former music minister talked about using music to manipulate people’s emotions. That’s literally all that’s going on!
  9. I’m disappointed it’s not you in your house being instructed in cooking from your animal teachers. Sigh. Back to the topic...The biggest change for me is feeling free to spend my time how I wish guilt free. I no longer feel guilty for not spending every waking moment “in the Word.” I spent so much time studying it but when I was pursuing creative things I wanted to do - even if I was making something for someone else - I felt like I was doing something wrong. I was weighed down with guilt and shame over things like attending a craft event and enjoying it! I enjoy & appreciate life SO much more now!
  10. I miss the feelings I felt when I listened to the songs. I’m slowly finding secular songs that make me feel the same way. For me, learning how music itself can bring up feelings* has helped me open up to finding new favorites. *vs “the holy spirit’s coming down now!” That’s something I was always skeptical about but couldn’t put it into words.
  11. Absolutely! I would talk about wanting “the peace that passes all understanding” and the irony is it took leaving christianity to find it! I still deal with anxiety but it doesn’t come with the religious baggage it did before. It’s no longer something I need to hide in order to avoid getting completely unhelpful (and usually out of context!) bible verses to either tell me to not be anxious or to tell me I’m sinning or not trusting god enough.
  12. @Citsonga, thanks for posting the video. How do I do that in the future?
  13. @MOHO, I bet retirement’s part of it with my mom, too. She’s still navigating retirement so it makes sense why it seems like she’s falling for more and more BS.
  14. I’m going stir-crazy. Our lockdown’s been extended through the end of May. I’ve started walking outside so that’s been good. We’re safe & healthy so that’s good. My mom’s getting into even more bizarre conspiracy theories than before and this is the first time in a long time I’ve been super grateful I don’t live near her.
  15. My mom sent me the video today which automatically raised my suspicions that it would be some bizarre conspiracy theory nonsense. If you want to see a different view on it, youtuber Jacklyn Glenn has a video out that’s decent.
  16. @Georgia, I ended up ramble-er than I intended but maybe you can relate to something here and it's not a complete thread jack. Thinking back on my own journey out, it took a scary amount of time for me to understand what nonbeliever's were talking about when they meant good=bad/bad=good! The logic is so twisted! I blindly believed that god torturing people forever was because he was good and they were choosing to be tortured! Now I understand it as emotionally abusive but at the time I fell for it hook, line, and sinker. @TruthSeeker0 said it well: "They're all brainwashed to believe sadism is love." Another thing I didn't understand was what circular reasoning really was. I didn't have a clue how "the Bible is god's word because the Bible says it's god's word" was circular reasoning!! It really is a warping of reality. The more I listen to various talks on fallacious thinking the more I understand how much brainwashing and mindf*'ery there is in christianity. But at the time I thought as long as I knew every apologetic answer I was good to go! It took a long time but eventually, thankfully, my house of cards came tumbling down.
  17. Ugh, yes! Why couldn’t he just have been honest and said “I have 500 I’ll give you but not the $1000”? Why does it need to couched in god talk?! (Rhetorical. Apparently I’m more angry about this than I realized)
  18. Interesting. I too went theist briefly. Didn’t realize it was a common thing.
  19. I’ll be moving to a new city when my current job ends. I’ve made my decision based on a number of factors and I’m “at peace” with my decision. Anyway, it’s got me thinking...christians will talk about “god leading me” towards such-and-such and even as a Christian I wondered how they knew. How was it any different than me sitting down with a list of five possible cities and simply narrowing it down to one? When I was hyper-pentacostal my friends would plead with god louder and more long-winded-ly than the friends I had when I decided I was a cessationist instead, and yet at the end of the day I chalk it all up to superstition now. How about you? I’ve had an easier time making decisions since walking away because I’m no longer looking for super subjective “signs” to point me one way or the other and then become consumed with anxiety over making the wrong decision even though god, in his infinite wisdom () couldn’t be bothered to make his will clear. Now? Now I just ask myself what I want and what’s best for those that will be impacted by my decisions.
  20. @Weezer, what questions do you typically ask?
  21. “I reject the majority of religious nonsense” You still haven’t answered what this means. Does this mean you believe the bible is to be taken literally? Does this mean you don’t take the bible literally? This could mean anything but you still haven’t spelled it out, you just keep bringing up distractions.
  22. Your comment about satan was funny because you might as well have asked why we aren’t scared of Thor’s judgement. Personally I spent years studying the bible - it’s precisely the reason I no longer believe. You seem to think if only we would read it with your specific blinders then all would be good. What you’re choosing to ignore is our lives are better without your magical sky daddy.
  23. I’m with @TruthSeeker0. My anxiety drastically decreased when I dropped supernatural belief. I also appreciate the life I have much more than I did before.
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