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    hi, i know many Christians don't seem to question things or think much about the things and i think it's better to question and seek truth beyond the excepted things we were taught or led to believe, whenever we were taught them. things like we are saved by believing on Jesus. you should question that too. what does it really mean afterall and does anyone know for sure or are they mostly repeating a line they believe they must repeat that they learned long ago or more recent?

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  1. the Bible "teaches".. or my interpretation of the Bible is: .. ? the Bible also 'says' that God's thoughts are higher than ours.. so, it is good to be careful lest we stumble in any of our personal interpretations of it or anything (the Bible, or life even - for ourselves and/or towards others). this is also just common sense, yes? or said another way - it can be good to keep an open mind, even great - so that we can learn more in life and correct our previous errors on the road of life and learning.
  2. the verse seems to contradict what was said: / On 1/18/2021 at 3:01 AM, LogicalFallacy said: Excuse my interjection, but isn't Christianity without Jesus like water without the hydrogen component? Isn't the Jesus character kinda fundamental to Christianity? The whole basis of Christianity is that Jesus was Gods son who died to take away the sins of the world and save us all. Take Jesus away and you haven't got Christianity / and agree with the topic.
  3. it means to give up anything in/of ourselves that isn't Christ-like.. bit by bit over time - lose. by giving up death/sin (sin brings death) we find life - Christ. anything not of Christ brings death. anything of Christ (light, love, truth) overcomes death (darkness, sin, confusion).
  4. American Standard VersionWherefore we henceforth know no man after the flesh: even though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now we know him so no more. International Standard VersionSo then, from now on we do not think of anyone from a human point of view. Even if we did think of the Messiah from a human point of view, we don't think of him that way anymore. NET BibleSo then from now on we acknowledge no one from an outward human point of view. Even though we have known Christ from such a human point of view, now we do not know him in that way any longer. New Heart English BibleTher
  5. it's ok to be yourself, speak your own words, think your own thoughts, and live with your own soul. if you don't you might not know how to be each place you go. you will wonder: how do i need to be for these people so that they will accept me, be kind to me, not speak bad about me, ect., ect. you will lose yourself and become them. you will not be true. you will not be you. you will be a changing thing.. drifting, drifting, lost in the shifting tides of others opinions, evaluations, ideas, beliefs, advice, putdowns and projections, expectations, innuendos, rumors, labels, and demands.
  6. i didn't say that, i said: 1) there are many ways to i might understand that and they may all be right. one thing it does say in the Bible (inerrant or not) is that - those who worship God must worship Him in spirit and in truth. not in literal interpretations (which vary from person to person and may or may not be right); and not in - "you better have the right one, or you are lost (not)!". nope, spirit and truth. pretty simple. it also says - beware the letter that killeth. so beware of taking anything in the Bible in a way that kills your
  7. if life is absolutely perfect for someone and they have Zero complaints, fears, struggles, sicknesses, worries, just nothing at all ever negative or unwanted then maybe such a person would be completely in Heaven? as it were, for them at least - even though here on a very imperfect Earth where many continue sad, fearful, lost, hurting, sick, dying, confused, angry, ect.
  8. we may well be in a kind of hell/purgatory/heaven right now. the question to ask might be: how do we get out, and keep asking it, and keep searching, keep an openish mind. 1) there are many ways to i might understand that and they may all be right. if there is a God and He is all-knowing He could know a great deal more than any human would hope to and may be working in many ways simultaneously and in everyrhing and everyone as well. "all things work together for good unto those who love the Lord" 2) just a person, a truth seeker. i don't claim to know, but i do have
  9. what you are saying makes sense. and about omnipresent. there are many findings in Science these days i have heard about that might be very good for more Christians to know about. have you read this? i think this is from a great sounding book that I've not gotten to read but have heard about. i think, because i am just quoting from this person's website.. ~~From the book, “The Sacredness of Questioning Everything,” by David Dark. (Although the publisher says the free audio version of the book is no longer available for download, I just tried it, and the down
  10. probably not. have you seen how close- minded many are? openmindness is a gift, and to find it could be a blessing - for many, i don't know if for all or how many. even just to be a little more open-minded, like the Pope seems to be. i actually don't know really how open-minded he is, it could be more than i know, i do not read much about him very often but only have heard some things.
  11. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGvfagBOHJE not really about me, but i heard this song today and was looking up the video, and thought of you.
  12. most of them are probably on the Christian Chat sites.
  13. patience is a virtue. but i could also point out that the Bible says that God draws near to the humble, but far from the proud.
  14. i would not listen to all Christians then now would i/You? because Christians are not perfect. and what else does the Bible say, and Christians believe? that God and Jesus, ect. are Love. and that His mercy endures Forever. how can God in any right sense of mind hurt people who don't believe in things that don't make sense to them?
  15. i believe the Bible is written (was) for those who are able or happen to want to listen to it. for all others you should try to be ok to your neighbor at least don't you think? for those of us more spiritual (in many religions) we must hold ourselves to much higher standards. but that is not for everyone obviously. there are many kinds of people in the world.
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