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  1. 8 hours ago, Wertbag said:

    Complaints mainly seem to be around the use of the word "choose", but rather than engage and explain, they leap to the belief that it must be anti-trans and he is evil for saying it.  While I agree "choose" is not the right word to use, I also understand what he means and take his clear intent in the good faith behind it.



    I believe 'choose' is a perfectly acceptable word there. Even if everyone agrees that one can feel dysphoria about the sex of the body they inhabit, whether they identify their gender according to their sex or according to their feelings is still a matter of choice. Even if we all agree it should be a free choice or that they should choose to identify according to the feelings, it's still that: a choice.


    Even if I'm somehow wrong about that, there's still the degree of this infraction to consider. It definitely isn't so unreasonable anyone should be getting angry about it or cancel decades old awards over it. That kind of treatment is obviously what's actually unreasonable here.


    I believe Dawkins' true infraction was the fact that he questioned the dogma, not really the way he did it.

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  2. Kathy Griffin also got fired from CNN in 2017 after she did a photoshoot where she held Donald Trump's bloody, severed head.


    Back then every other public personality seemed to be all but begging for someone to assassinate Donald Trump, but I guess it was the gruesome image going viral and re-printed everywhere that was finally seen as going too far. I suppose CNN cared for at least some appearance of political neutrality.

  3. Children are basically property, so you'll have to be careful and calculating while you bide your time until 18. Do whatever you must to survive and avoid pitfalls.


    When I was around 26 I noticed my bank account I'd been using since childhood listed my parents as having full access to it. In theory, if they wanted to control me, they could have driven me into quite some trouble by taking away my money at any time. Thankfully, their manipulation has always been softer than that. Perhaps they also forgot about the whole fact.


    I've also read about a girl who dated a man her parents didn't like. She listened to his fairly far-right political podcasts and drove across half the country to meet him and they planned to marry. Then her parents got her a psychiatrist to determine that she's incapable of fully taking care of herself. The girl proved them right by failing to protest it in an officially valid fashion, and a judge assigned her parents as her guardians even though she was 19. So, she's perhaps gonna be basically property until the rest of her days.


    Dunno what the pitfalls are in your culture and jurisdiction, but you gotta keep your wits about yourself. Keep your relations with your guardians civil.

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  4. Well this is sexist, but most women can be kinda emotional. It probably works from the evolutionary perspective given how prevalent it is. Therefore, a) there's nothing too wrong with it and b) you just gotta deal with it, whether you're a man or a woman. Nobody will be surprised by it and almost everyone will give leeway for it.


    Given how you are observing it, you're fine anyway. Sure, you will go on overdrive at times, but afterward you can analyze it.

  5. You could be. Or you could just be too foolish to feel fear, because the punishment by hellfire is too distant, even if you believe it. Only you can know what is true about yourself. Then again, like @TheRedneckProfessorpoints out, others have their own fears to face, and you can't know what it's like for them, i.e. how fearsome they find it to risk some personal loss in this current life.


    In essence, terms like 'brave' and 'coward' are primarily hot air to suck up to those we can take advantage of or slander our opponents with.


    Perhaps if you were being tortured by flames right now, you'd be quick to pledge your allegiance to whatever monster necessary. Still, maybe even then there's some value in resisting an absolute inevitability while you're still free enough to do so. Dunno. You do you.

  6. Believers do have a rational reason in wanting to preserve their social circles. We are political animals and well adapted to it. If we need to, we have the ability to ignore even fairly obvious contradictions and practice doublethink as far as developing a Stockholm syndrome.


    Religion can easily be influential enough to sever familial ties. It is only rational to praise whatever idol you must to avoid losing people you depend on. If living such a lie would be too difficult to consciously juggle (or otherwise threatens your sanity), truly believing the lie becomes the rational choice, if you have the ability to do so.


    When you look at it like that, to choose the secular way of living even over preserving your familiar ties perhaps truly requires some kind of pridefulness, hedonism or black-heartedness. One could give up their lust, swallow their pride and beg for Jesus to enter their heart, and perhaps if they truly, earnestly did that, their natural ability to develop a Stocholm syndrome or something similar would help them along.

  7. On 11/12/2019 at 2:38 AM, Edgarcito said:

    Per our recent conversations.....the question in my mind is what types of evidence will a non-believer accept? 


    That question is irrelevant. The more might God has, the easier it should be to give me evidence. The more God knows, the more precisely he knows what it is that I need to believe in him.


    The real question is what evidence do I have, and where does it lead me to. If there's God, I can only assume he will give me and has given me whatever he wants me to have and the rest is up to me. If it doesn't lead me to the truth, then that is also part of God's plan. I can therefore only have faith.

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  8. There isn't really anything to replace it with, I think. It is a problem, but one without a well-defined solution. I guess you just have to live with it and hope that the need itself disappears or at least weakens, as your brain adapts to the new perception of reality. Just raise your own kids without that clutch, so they're adapted to manage without it from the get-go.


    After 15 years, I find myself still believing on some level and to some extent. I don't subscribe to religion anymore, but I just need the illusion of meaning for comfort, sometimes.

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  9. 25 minutes ago, LuthAMF said:

    The hostility here is palpable. And it is seemingly excused by all means. 


    When you're in a hostile place, perhaps you should act polite and courteous. Indignant attitude and haughtiness is only gonna get you a bloody nose.

    Learn the game. An underdog has to play differently from the dominant one.

  10. I guess people are able to choose a narrative and even convince themselves of it to an extent, but I don't think that's a way of integrity. It's not actual belief. They just choose to ignore the fact that they don't really believe.


    Perhaps the whole meme of Christianity has evolved to abuse that mechanism, with the cosmic reward&punishment incentivising it. Gotta just suppress those doubts and glorify the constant practice of self-deception as piety or something.


    Therefore, no, you cannot choose what you believe. You might think your beliefs changed when you converted but that's just because you don't have a more accurate description of what really changed.

  11. Yes, I hate the political system, but I can't conceive of a better one. I also have a really low patience for entertaining other people's ideas of what would be a better system.


    Is religion separate from politics? No. Everything is political. Especially identity groups and interest groups. Religion is both.

  12. Guilt sounds correct. I mean, you probably played a role in how his beliefs evolved? Aint no shirking that responsibility. Your part of the blame shouldn't be too big unless your husband can't think for himself.

    Shame seems unnecessary, unless you played dirty somehow. I guess there's often something we do wrong or weaknesses we subconsciously abuse even without intending to do so.


    My first girlfriend was vocally suspicious of my previously religious background, and I tried to placate her by defacing my Bible, lol. I think I should be ashamed of having been that easy to make dance, as I've since learned it's the nature of women to test their man's backbone with some unfair play.

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  13. I guess some people are wishy-washy. Big talk first, but then they flip and talk just as big for the other side. I don't get it, really. I treat it as a phenomenon I observe more than something I can relate to.


    Maybe it's got something to do with identity. Some people insist that people need an identity. I don't get that either.

  14. If he was converted by a single sermon, that sounds so flimsy there might be a chance he flips back again, (and again). Dream sounds a bit deeper, as it originates from his own subconscious. Some dreams can be very profound and make you think. If it made him realize he was being foolishly hopeful about, say, gradually changing your worldview, and wasting time because of it, then that mindset might be harder to revert.


    If you wanna land him regardless, maybe you have to offer him that hope, lol.

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  15. 4 hours ago, SerenelyBlue said:

    I just get very angry when people call me a troll.


    You shouldn't. Being seen as a troll is inavoidable. Perhaps what you do is what being a troll mostly is: certain personality traits make it so that it's natural to approach a topic from both extremes, and people with opposing personality traits might detest it, as is their right. The bigger man will just suck it up and deal with it.

  16. If your subterfuge is transparent enough but never directly admitting to anything, the good thing is it'll hint to the kids that religion is something they should be critical of but probably remain careful about what they question aloud. Of course if they're too dense to notice that even you have to pay lip service to the crazy believers, they might rebel directly and get burned. Or get you burned thanks to their loose lips.


    It also gives them the out of it all being just a game (or preparation for handling those pesky atheists) if they're not ready to let go of the fairytale mindset yet.

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  17. Sounds like either connection/db issues on the server-side (will fix themselves, usually within hours) or that you've switched to your google account instead of your youtube account (I think you automatically have both). You can check for the latter by clicking your profile pic and choosing "Switch account".

  18. 6 hours ago, Kat34 said:

    Seriously? How can anyone live with that fear long term? It would drive you literally insane...


    Well, it gives me peace, so it's the opposite of what you think. The idea that I might be deluded and the craziest fundy might actually be correct calms me down.


    If they're right, we'll see. If they're not, we'll never know.

    And also right now we can't know.

  19. 1 hour ago, Kat34 said:

    Believers are those whom God has chosen and given faith to and there’s nothing we can do to change our fates. How do you find your way out of this view? 


    I don't think you do. You just gotta accept that possibility. There's not much you can do if it's up to god to elect you or not.

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