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Ouroboros

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  1. I like it more when it's "raw". I'm not a big fan of perfection or too realistic. That picture is amazing!
  2. Weird. As I explained in the existential fallacy thread, I get lost in vocabulary. I have a learning disability that screws with my head at times. The word "theory" always gave me the impression that it was an educated guess, the way a forensic scientist approaches a crime scene and theorizes about what happened based on the evidence. Think of scientific theory as a model. It's a model to explain the facts. When it comes to evolution, that species evolve is a fact. We do know with quite certainty that this is happening. The Theory of Evolution is the model, or explanation to how and why those facts of observed evolution happens. So it's two different aspects of the same thing. Evolution as a fact comes from the evidence we have found. Evolution as a theory is the process of hypothesis and eliminations to explain how it works. Also, the theory of evolution is extremely wide, and there are a multitude of other sciences involved in it, like biochemistry, geology, paleontology, anthropology, and much more. By the way, I used to be a young earth creationist as well, but not anymore. I took some classes at the local college, and o'boy... I never knew how wrong I had been. --edit And to add, the facts of evolution won't every change, but the theory of evolution goes through revisions all the time. And one of the facts of evolution is that mutations are real, natural/sexual selection is real (and all the different forms of pressure), the fossils are organized in time from simpler to more complex, unique genetic code and markers are shared by closely related species (or individuals in the same species, which is why DNA testing is used for checking parenthood when in doubt), and much more.
  3. Yeah. I can agree with that. He wasn't a skilled philosopher, but he did "philosophize" like we all do. Trying to reason and rationalize things, however successful that might be at times.
  4. CS Lewis lived a very long time ago. He didn't know about all the information, facts, and experiments we have today. Besides, he was a philosopher and author, not a scientist. Just because someone is smart doesn't mean they know everything and understand everything. What about the intellectual giant like Hawkins? He has a higher IQ than Lewis, so therefore he must be right? No. That's not a good argument, is it?
  5. That's not logical. There are people who believe that God created life first, then evolution happened. Evolution as the tool of God to create species. That means, the beginning of evolution is a separate issue. Believe in a God starting evolution or believe abiogenesis, life from non-life, it doesn't matter, because evolution that happened after is true and we know it to be true. ---edit It's important to understand that abiogenesis is only necessary for a full naturalistic understanding of the world. Evolution is naturalistic, but only in the area of how species evolve (develop, come about). Even if astronomy and physics have answers to many things, they don't have answers to all things. We don't know what quarks are made of, yet we understand particle physics. It's the same thing here. We understand evolution even though we don't know yet how it started. We know how a comet can traverse around the sun, but we don't know where it came from. Understanding evolution doesn't require that we understand abiogenesis, but if we have to have a naturalistic support for everything in this world and how it works, then abiogenesis would be required. It's a problem for naturalism, not evolution.
  6. Abiogenesis: Amino acids, simple sugars, and other organic matter exists in space, even complex organic molecules. http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-29368984 There's been research showing that metabolic systems can arise without cells, naturally from non-living matter. http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn25471-spark-of-life-metabolism-appears-in-lab-without-cells.html 2 (or 3) of the 4 nucleotides have been produced in laboratory. Single cells naturally evolving to multicellular (I think it was brewers yeast used in the experiment). And much more. Abiogenesis isn't a mystery anymore. What's missing is the exact order, steps, conditions, etc when and where it happens. Besides, our body uses non-living matter, metabolize it, and produce living matter form it, through chemistry, so it's ridiculous to argue that nature can't produce living things, since that's what we're doing constantly, internally, each one of us.
  7. It's a natural thing. Other religions have had similar practices. The way I see it is that it's similar or same as improvising on instruments or singing. It's a practice of using some parts of the brain, while circumventing others. I spoke in tongues as a Christian, and I can still do it if I want to. I can make up words on the fly. I used to play piano, flute, and guitar, and I improvised quite a bit on the piano, and at the same time sing in tongues to it.
  8. It is a proper word. Examples of usages, already from 1933: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Citations:deconvert#English 1933, Sinclair Lewis, Ann Vickers, Doubleday, Doran & company, inc., p. 80 Oh, I'm not going to try to deconvert them. No! Let them keep their faith, if they like it.or 1961, Catholic University of America, Herman Joseph Heuser, The American Ecclesiastical Review, Catholic University of America Press, etc., p. 236, The very devout and older Catholics are naturally inclined to see in the sudden North American fury to deconvert and decatholicize Hispanic America an enterprise that is not inspired by Christ but by the Devil, some sort of spiritual rape of the Latin republics. The word is used even by religious people. Another word, a synonym, is apostasy or religious disaffiliation.
  9. Neither does it for OCD, ADD, ADHD, and more. Many mental illnesses are attributed to a different functionality of the brain. To be honest, the idea of an "average brain" is based on taking the "average" of many brains. No one has the "average" brain at hand. You don't have it. I don't have it. We all have unique brains. The average brain is only based on taking a bunch of brains and looking at what happens most of the time. I might have smaller activity in one part of the brain where you have more, and you might have less somewhere where I have more. Our brains are as unique as fingerprints. So based on the article, no one is human.
  10. Stupid. Plain and simple. Do you really believe this shit?
  11. It wouldn't. To me, those things are evidence enough to convince me that the Universe is God. Other than that, yes, I agree, sufficient evidence is enough. Sufficient evidence to show that God is some external being outside of our time-space, it would require some extraordinary means to accomplish, i.e. extraordinary evidence.
  12. Yup. Actually, worse, just by not believing in his existence, and you're going there. Unless of course God judges based on actions, evil people only go to Hell, well, then Jesus was wrong to save the criminal on the cross next to him.
  13. Also, in the case of the children of the people who supposedly drowned in the flood were allowed to be born by God (no natural abortion), killed by God through a horrible method, just because they supposedly would become evil later in life (or their parents were supposedly evil). So in some cases, God seems to have no qualms to act like (or worse than) the crime prevention unit in Minority Report.
  14. "Christian massage"? Is that anything similar to Swedish but with holy oil instead?
  15. I think the bigger question is "what should I do with my life, the only life I have?" Let's not spoil it or waste it. Let's make it something useful, God or no-God. I agree that is a very important question and to ignore it and not act on it one can end up with a life wasted. "Life is what happens while you are busy making other plans." -~John Lennon Yup. My "higher authority" that I feel accountable to is my future self. What will I be tomorrow? What will I think of myself tomorrow about the decisions I made today? Where will I be? Can I be happy with what I have? Very important things to consider.
  16. I think the bigger question is "what should I do with my life, the only life I have?" Let's not spoil it or waste it. Let's make it something useful, God or no-God. You're getting wonderfully wise in your old age sir. Glad to see your post. I think I calmed down over time. (Stilled my mind, basically)
  17. I think the bigger question is "what should I do with my life, the only life I have?" Let's not spoil it or waste it. Let's make it something useful, God or no-God.
  18. And the same is said about bacterial, viral, and genetic diseases. But why do we have an immune system then? Why did God create blood clothing and white blood cells in Adam and Eve if the diseases were the result of the fall? Did God create it because he knew it would come? What were virus before it was damaging? Or did God create all these things after the fall (two creations)? The theology is so full of holes that it puts a swiss cheese at shame. As a Christian still I would have told you that due to the fall our bodies changed...something like it. Yeah. But that means that our bodies "evolved". *shudder* That dreadful word that is so hated in the fundamentalist community. Sounds like evolution and genetic change to me. The phenotype comes mostly from the genetic code (genotype). It's not 100% true completely, but to a large extent it is true. The thorn in a plant is defined by one or many genes in the DNA. Those genes came from somewhere. Either God created them (which we have no evidence for or documented observation) or they came to be through evolution (as has been observed many times over).
  19. And the same is said about bacterial, viral, and genetic diseases. But why do we have an immune system then? Why did God create blood clothing and white blood cells in Adam and Eve if the diseases were the result of the fall? Did God create it because he knew it would come? What were virus before it was damaging? Or did God create all these things after the fall (two creations)? The theology is so full of holes that it puts a swiss cheese at shame.
  20. While we were still Christians, my wife and kids were in a terrible car accident. As a result, one of my sons is paralyzed from hip, down. The transformation we had to go through mentally and emotionally was a huge part in why we lost our faith (all of us).
  21. ""We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity ... in fact our movement is Christian." -- Hitler, 1928.
  22. It's the same question as asking "Why is there a god?" If God exists, why is there a god rather than no god? If your answer is "because there is a universe" then you've created a recursion. You have to answer to why god exists without referring to our existence or the existence of this world. So what is it? Why is there a god? And why is it that 5 year olds love to ask "why" for everything? Why is the sky blue? Because the refraction of the light from the sun is in the spectrum of blue. Why? because... They endlessly ask why. There's no reason to ask "why" to why this world exists because even if there is a god, we don't know why god did it. You can make up some religious belief to explain why your particular "god" did it, but you really don't know... do you?
  23. "A world-famous chemist tells the truth: there’s no scientist alive today who understands macroevolution" That's not what prof. James M. Tour said. Tour is a very skilled chemist. He said he doesn't know how macroevolution works. He asked for any scientist to explain it to him, but he didn't get anyone to answer to the challenge (until recently), which means that he didn't say "there’s no scientist alive today who understands macroevolution". In other words, the author of the article intentionally twisted the truth. Hasty generalization is the first fallacy that comes to mind.
  24. I didn't see anything out of the ordinary. You're mostly skipping around and waving your arms. It's not much of a dance. Sorry. Your friends are just being nice to you. Go to a local dance institute and take some classes. You look like you have the stamina but not any technique or balance.
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