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Comanche

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About Comanche

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    West Texas, United States of Whatever
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    I am young Pre-Canadian American who likes to cause a stir. My comments are sometimes off the cuff, so if you're one of those people who gets their panties in a wad easily, rest easy - I'm insulting your intelligence, not your person. Otherwise, I'm sure we'll get along just fine. I am a poet, a writer, and a student who wants to make a difference.

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  • Still have any Gods? If so, who or what?
    Nope, not one.
  1. Welcome! I think, with coming out, that the best thing to remember is to be prepared for the worst but hope for the best. You may be surprised, as many times one member of the family coming out will spur on others to come out as well. For example, when I came out, I was apprehensive at first, but my mom is a liberal Christian and didn't care, and I actually found out that my Dad was agnostic, so I've been happily out for about a year now. In a fundie family, you probably can't expect this, but if you broach the topic with care you probably won't be thrown out to the streets. Since you're 18, I do think they'd be okay with you not wanting to go to church. They expect that from teenagers. Start to ask tough questions, and don't be too presumptuous - just let them think that you're curious. Judge how they'll react to your change of heart by how they react to your questions. Make comments about things you see when watching the news with them, and ask their opinions on related things - things like science, gay rights, liberalism, abortion, etc. Supply your own opinions tentatively if the response isn't outright hostile. The final hurtle will be to ask their opinion on atheists. If they don't go into a flying rage and scream "HOW DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THEM SATANISTS!?" you're doing well, and may be able to come out soon after, depending on if you want to test the ground some more. However, if they do react that way, or similarly ("I hate them!" "Kill them all!" "They should burn in hell!") you should DEFINITELY wait until you're out of the house, and either surround yourself with like-minded friends, write a letter, or do it over the phone. If they're that hostile, this will prevent harm to you, and it will make it a little easier to deal with if they completely cut ties. Hope my crash course helped. Good luck, and remember, hope for the best!
  2. Welcome! I can definitely say that Dawkins has been one of the key parts of my deconversion - I was an agnostic atheist before I read The God Delusion, and I was never a creationist, but his work really reassured me in my own opinions and made me much more confident about tackling theists. He has a way of making atheists feel like their view matters and I think that's part of the reason why he's so popular. It has always (and probably will always) mystified me when people disbelieve evolution out of willful ignorance. I'm glad you managed to climb out of that dead end. You seem like a very interesting and eloquent person, so I look forward to reading more from you! Huh, I never knew much about Norway, but to know they're Jesusfreaks too is interesting - I was under the impression that it was more secular there. Goes to show you just how insane it is in the US when you kind of count on other countries to be the voice of reason. In any case, I've always wanted to visit Norway (then again, I want to visit everywhere). I hope you enjoy your stay here!
  3. Welcome to the board! It's alright to still be spiritual around here - a lot of people still are. Being an ex-Christian doesn't mean you have to be an atheist, and we all go in various directions with out beliefs (or lack thereof). Might I ask how you perceive God? Though I'm an atheist, I can see where people might personify things like nature as a deity of some sort. It's organized religion that I have obvious disdain for. In any case, I hope you enjoy your stay here. Looking forward to reading more from you!
  4. Welcome to the forum! This is exactly what religion is, a form of crowd control. The more people they recruit, the more power they have over the masses, and the more they can have things go their way. I used to be an agnostic, then a mostly-atheist, and now I'm a full blown atheist. If you haven't read The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins, that will answer a lot of your questions. To put a twist on a a popular saying, people say "Why not?" about a "creator" and I say "Why?" Exactly. Because that's the best job you can hope to do. I hope you enjoy your stay here, and look forward to reading more from you! Comanche
  5. Welcome, Zenobia! I really enjoyed your story. It's nice to know that even those who are so heavily indoctrinated can break free of religion. Carl Sagan was truly a great man with a huge heart, and anyone who was happy about his death probably deserves to be shackled by their faith. I recommend "Pale Blue Dot," which you can find on YouTube. It's a very moving performance that never fails to bring me to tears. Hope you enjoy it here, Comanche
  6. Welcome to the site! I agree about metaphors. As children, we take things at face value more often. Santa Clause is real? Okay! Snakes talk? Okay! It seems like the Bible is just an oddity that people continue to take seriously even when they know better. Congrats on digging through all the lies. My religions class was pretty much the opposite of yours - we learned about all the major religions and a few smaller ones, despite the fact that a fundie in my class was always screaming "Blasphemy!" To have a certain religion hoisted on you in public school is inexcusable, and I commend you for being able to see through the curtain some schools draw to "shield" students from "blasphemy." Hope you enjoy your stay here, Comanche
  7. Welcome, Cybergeist! I can relate as far as school goes - it may have something to do with your disorder. Teens usually go through their rebellious stage earlier, and this helps them realize that it's not all about pleasing their parents. All I can say is to think about what you really want out of life. (Business jargon bores me to death as well, so you're not alone there.) It's after the rebellious stage that you'll start to take life more seriously. Rebellion gets you out of the house, and once you're done with that things quiet down a you really start to think about what you want to do. Just be patient and be true to yourself. If you want to make movies, make movies! It's ultimately your life and your decision. Explain to your parents that you want to start making a life for yourself, search for jobs, and get out there. If you need motivation, I find it helps to research people you can relate to and follow by example. You say you like science fiction, so how about Asmiov or Douglas Adams or the like? There's bound to be role models out there that will get you thinking about what you can be if you try. Hope you enjoy your stay here, Comanche
  8. Condescending is more like it. I agree - I know I haven't experienced everything in life, but I know what I do and don't believe in. I believe in Tabula Rasa, that our wisdom shapes and changes through all our life experiences, but that we all have a default setting we develop early on that is only changed by something monumental. In the case of the people here, something monumental has changed their default from theist to atheist/agnostic/pagan, etc. In the case of young ex-xians like ourselves, our default setting has been changed earlier than most, but that doesn't change the fact that we know and understand why we've chosen that default. Because we do have a choice - the choice to be people who either pander to the masses or people who stand up for reason and logic. ...Was that even remotely intelligible? I'm rambling again...XD Opera really isn't my thing. I'm afraid my Italian is a little rusty, though if it's in French I may be able to help you.
  9. Welcome, Exclavius! I completely understand what you mean about being awed by some of the stories here - they are all very moving and often heart-wrenching, just as yours is. The support you'll get here is unbeatable. The deconversion process is a slow one, but there are people here from all walks of life to help you through all the levels that you'll go through even after affirming that you're an atheist. I'm also pretty new here, but ever since I joined I've felt like I've had someone to go to whenever even the smallest things go wrong, and sometimes just knowing that is enough to make you feel better. Christianity isn't something that can be brushed off with a mere thought, it's a slow deprogramming, and I look forward to hearing more from you. Feel free to ramble all you want! On the part about choosing to plead guilty to a crime you didn't commit over the anxiety of staying with your parents...wow. Just wow. There's a lot of people who wouldn't be able to do that, and it really shows how strong your character is that you can. I can't imagine how hard it must have been. I don't want to imagine. But I think it really reinforces that you can make tough decisions according to your heart, and it's uplifting in a somber way, to know that there are people out there that are strong enough to do that. Again, welcome.
  10. Welcome to the board! I hope it assists you as well as it has me so far. Since my deconversion, I've discovered that political ideals are almost directly linked with religion. Before I was an atheist, I was a gun-toting, patriotic conservative. Now I'm a liberal who has doubts about patriotism (though still happily gun-toting). I never knew that Jefferson was a deist before my deconversion. It didn't surprise me when I found out, though. Right-wing Christians probably wouldn't have been so keen on the First Amendment, or much else of America's founding documents. I think I'm the only person in Texas that didn't trash my Dixie Chicks CDs when the whole Bush thing happened. Even when I was a Christian I thought secular music was a lot better. I'll admit that I still have a soft spot for country, though. I have a friend who can't stand secular music though. It's rather amusing when you see it from an outside perspective. By the way, you taught me something new. I didn't know Calvinism was still around. I've only ever heard about it in history books. Huh. Small world.
  11. Thank you for the warm welcome. I fully intend to keep practicing. There's always room for improvement when it comes to writing.
  12. Wow! We have a lot in common. I'm not actually Comanche - it's a screen name I came up with a while ago. Long story short - Texan, horsewoman, enjoyed history unnaturally much. Nice to meet you! Nice to meet you! Novels, most likely. I've written poetry, but I think prose is much more challenging (ironic, no?) and a lot more fun. I'll admit, I've pulled it off before. People don't tend to want to talk seriously with a teenager, so I have bumped up my age. Just a tiny bit, though. Mid-twenties, usually. Thanks for the high praise!
  13. Oh, duh. This is why I take French instead of Spanish. I know how the latter sounds, but I can never spell it. I'll check out that book. It's nice to meet you, too.
  14. Or, as they'd say around here, austa la vista, mi amigo loco! Hallelujah!
  15. I agree, Comanche. You have a hell of a writing style and it shows. It's refreshing to read SOMETHING on the 'Net that doesn't contain the stereotypical teenage shoptalk with all the wacky symbolism and mutilated prose. Thank you for proving to me that there teenagers out there who care enough to be excellent, respectful students. Sorry for the gushing, but I am an educator by trade. I figure that the English language (and language in general) was created for a reason, so why not use it correctly. Words were developed to put an end to cryptic sounds and symbols, not so the youth thousands of years later could butcher it and regress to "lmao u r 2 pwned". That's still high praise coming from an educator, so I thank you. Breaking stereotypes is what I'm all about. Comanche
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