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    I'm a 42 year old Australian woman, been ex-christian for about 12 years, and the the longer it's been, the better it's become :)

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  1. Haha that was my favourite bit
  2. This video debunks hell quite nicely:
  3. Hi FairlySunny, I remember when I first reconverted, one of my first thoughts was "How do I make new friends/connections without going to church?"... Apart from school and uni, it's all I ever knew. I was lucky, an old friend invited me to go take salsa dancing lessons, and well that became a huge part of my life for several years.. I made some really good friends, and got me out several nights a week. Then later down the track I took up rowing... That has completely taken over my life, in a good way.. I have an amazing circle of friends and am part of a great rowing community... AND it's WAY better than church... People are friendly, non judgemental and come from all walks of life... So my advice is, immerse yourself in some new hobbies, I find it's the best way to meet new people and find a community outside the church
  4. Hi All, I've been ex-christian for about 13 years, I posted my exxtimony back around that time too, and have been an on and off lurker/occasional commenter ever since I have been enjoying reading the various discussions and debates, however I notice a theme whereby trying to reason with a religious person is like trying to reason with a toddler.. Ie it's impossible.. Lol And the more I think about arguing/debating xtian apologetics, the more I think it's like banging your head against a brick wall lol It seems pointless in many ways to argue religion.. Like trying to argue about the existist of Santa or voldemort... However I also get why we do it... Not sure what the point of my post is, but anyways... Anyone have any thoughts?
  5. No one, including you has had a god moment, because there is no such thing as god. Most of us here had what we thought were god moments, but later realised it was just wishful thinking/hallucination/crowd hype/co incidence etc. So it's nothing to be sad about, we have not walked away from god, as there is no god. We walked away from the beliefs that were taught to us from a young age. We simply realised god doesn't exist. Prayers aren't answered and there is no one out there intervening in any way. That's why there is so much bad stuff in the world.. But there is also good stuff. We as humans can do the best we can to add to the good stuff as much as possible, and deal with the bad stuff as best we can.
  6. lol thanks that was funny!!

  7. thought you might enjoy this ;) lol

  8. Hi Laurilee, Welcome and congratulations! I remember when I posted my story 3 years ago, I was so nervous, and couldn't believe that I had actually said "out loud" that I wasn't a christian anymore! It was great though receiving everyone's supportive responses. Looking forward to reading your story when you do post it (but no rush). Cheers, Jackie
  9. Hi Running Free, I don't think your post was shitty, you made some really good points! I agree. We were born human, which means we're not perfect, but certainly not evil. And being human does not warrant everlasting punishment. I really like this idea. So true!! Knowing that this is the only life we have really makes you value each day more and more. Exactly! The christinsanity doctrine is truly repungent! I felt the same way after leaving the religion... But I have made up for it by making new friends and hanging out with people I never would have as a christian (and my new friends are a lot more fun) he he Me too!! I was very strict when it came to no sex before marriage, but since then I have made up for that too. he he Just make the most of your life from now on, and think of your time in christinsanity as a massive learning curve! Cheers, Jackie
  10. Hi Margee, Your post was an interesting read, thanks for sharing. It is definitely a difficult thing to come to terms with "no life after death", especially if you have lost a loved one who you were hoping to see again. Recently my sister in law's mother passed away at age 51 very unexpectedly, and her family are somewhat comforted by the belief she is now in heaven....however, I know my sister in law is really struggling with why god would let this happen, why did god not heal her when so many people were praying for her etc... She's dealing with lots of anger and confusion at the moment. I guess my point is, try to take the good things with the bad...unfortunately there's no life after death, but how wonderful is it that we no longer have to try to reconcile in our minds all the horrible things that happen on this planet with a "good and loving" god... I now believe things are as they are now... no trying to work out why, or what purpose god may have. The other great thing is, NO HELL! For me, realising that there was no hell really was a HUGE weight off my shoulders. It was a concept that I really struggled with as a christian. And I was so glad to be free of that burden. Also TIME is a big factor. Getting used to the idea of no everlasting life takes a while. Especially if it's something you believed in for such a long time. Someone else mentioned that a finite life makes each and every day that much more valuable. So I think it's important to really make the most of each day, and make the most of seeing the loved ones in your life. Don't take anything for granted. It may be that you feel life has lost meaning to you right now. In time you'll find how YOU can give meaning to your life and the lives of others around you. All the best! Jackie
  11. Hi Jack, I'm also from Australia, and I think we're very lucky in this country that religion does not have as much influence than in other countries such as the US. I think because of this we don't see the detrimental side of christianity so much. But, I can speak from my own experience as a christian, christianity was certainly NOT beneficial for me. I'm happier and healthier now as a result of leaving the religion 3 years ago. To address your points specifically: Personally, I'm a more selfless and compassionate person now than I was as a christian, because I believe this is the only life we have, I wanna make my life and the lives of those around me as good as possible. There is also a down-side to christian charity, and that is the evangelical side of things. Probably the best example of this is the catholic church telling people in Africa that they shouldn't be using condoms, even though AIDS is rampant! Kids should be educated PROPERLY about these things, instead of within a christian framework. They should not be told "drugs, alcohol and sex are bad because the bible says so and you'll make god unhappy / go to hell"... They should be educated as to WHY drugs are harmful, WHY underage / excessive drinking is not good for you. And sex...well pre-marital sex is fine, but I agree kids shouldn't be doing it before they're old enough, but they need to be educated properly about safe sex (not just abstinence). Also, I think it is harmful to tell kids that thoughts about sex are wrong, or that mastibation is wrong etc... Christianity also promotes homophobia. Many teenages go through hell on earth because they don't feel safe to "come out"...I can only imagine how horrible that would be. With the "hope" that comes with believing in heaven also comes the torment of knowing that most of the world are gonna end up suffering in hell. I personally find it more comforting to know we're all just going back to where we came from, rather than believing some of us are going to heaven, but the majority are gonna burn in hell. It's bad if it stops them from making the most of this life. Also if people are "hoping" that god will help them out with their problems, it's gonna get frustrating when he doesn't. Much better to take things into your own hands to better your own life as much as you can. I can see where you're coming from, but I don't think the "benefits" you mentioned outweigh the accompaning detriments. Cheers, Jackie
  12. Thumbelina, If hell does not yet exist, where are all un-saved people that have died in the past few thousand years? I'm curious.
  13. Well it's not real logic. Pretty much all of the arguments for god and christianity are NOT logical, although those that believe them think them to be logical. Speaking for myself, when I was a believer, I had many many questions, deep down I knew christianity made no sense, but I just ignored the questions in order to cling to my faith. In the end I just couldn't do it anymore...it wasn't a decision, something just clicked in me and I knew I didn't believe anymore. I couldn't make myself believe now even if I wanted to. Just like I couldn't make myself believe in Islam or Santa Clause! So why do some people come to their senses are others don't? Who knows? I thinks there are many factors that play a part, and also for some people it takes longer than others.. I'm just grateful I "woke up" at a relatively young age (29)...
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