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  1. That's the answer of a religious terrorist. ISIS uses that same rationale today. I sincerely hope that you never think your invisible god is commanding you to kill people because you apparently don't have the human moral brakes to override that impulse.
  2. I think the bible is a mirror on what some humans thought in the past. It shows how some people tried to explain things they didn't understand, how some people tried to control others, and in some places it shows the best of human aspirations and dreams. As others have said, I think it is, in general, a horrible basis as a guide or instruction manual for living your life, but that doesn't mean that some parts aren't poetic or even inspirational. Even christians don't try to follow many of Jesus' sayings. They just aren't practical, even if they sound "good". Why would I turn th
  3. That's what the Southern Baptists (my denomination) taught - any child, before they reached the "age of accountability" would go to heaven when they died. I've heard that consistently from other fundamentalists I've discussed abortion with, but I'm sure there are some who believe otherwise - god seems to have a hard time making his plans and will known in a clear way that everyone can understand. Since Catholics get to make stuff up as they go along, my understanding is that for a long time they taught that the souls of aborted fetuses went to purgatory, but have recently said basically "Who
  4. I think there is a difference. With Humanism, you don't have a supernatural override, but you can with religion. A good Humanist could say it's not good for me to fly a jet full of people into a skyscraper. A good religious person might think the same thing, but then say, but I think god is telling me to - he wants me to sacrifice my life for him and get rid of people who don't believe the right things about him or who have offended him. Think about the story of Abraham - a great man as far as the bible is concerned - who knew better than to kill his son, but who decided to kill him anyway
  5. I don't believe in the christian god (or any others) and I'm not sure the christian god can exist, what with the problem of evil, but if he does exist, what would need to happen for you to believe? Some things that would go a long way toward convincing me... 1. Proof that prayer to the christian god works miracles. A room of 12 Amputees (god likes the number 12) with 144 prayer warriors asking for their limbs to be restored immediately, witnessed by a large number of non-believer doctors and scientists who could fully examine the patients before and after the prayer s
  6. It's true that most of us on this site don't believe in bible god (or any gods for that matter). The reason we are here discussing these topics is that there are many people, such as yourself, who do believe. Many believers aren't aware of how immoral the bible is, or the problems and contradictions in the bible. Why is it important for us to point these out? We are hoping that good people will realize that what they've been taught or assumed isn't always accurate and will begin to think for themselves. Several of us ex-christians became ex-christians because we did start study
  7. Can there be a "good" answer for genocides commanded by god and Jesus (The Father and I are One)? If you think so, then you may be falling for the anything-god-does-is-good ploy. If that's the answer you get from your teachers, or the god-works-in-mysterious-ways answer, then it's really not worth discussing since those arguments claim that your god is above morality. The god of the bible is big on killing children and I think one of the worst stories is when Pharaoh has decided to let the Hebrew slaves leave Egypt, but bible god hardens Pharaoh's heart and makes him decree that
  8. If you're not looking for a religious definition, then I would agree with this definition from Google: "simple elegance or refinement of movement"
  9. Welcome to the site Miriam!
  10. The Amalekites fought the Israelis when they were leaving Egypt and looking for a place to settle. They were protecting their own land from a band of millions (if you believe the bible) of immigrants looking for a place to take over. The Israeli god waited 400 years to make the Amalekites pay for this "sin" of self defense by commanding his people to kill all the Amalekites including their infants.
  11. Miriam, the idea is not so much that you should kill "someone" specifically to get them into heaven. But rather, should a believer mind his/her own business and don't have an abortion if they don't want one, but let everyone else make their own decisions since in the long run that could end up sending more souls to heaven (if that's something that you believe in and is important to you.) As for the last verse you quoted, the bible is full of stories where evil was done (multiple genocides commanded by god/Jesus for example) so that the bible's version of good could come of it. Yo
  12. An evangelical friend of mine posted on social media during the last election that voting for a pro-choice candidate meant the christian god would hold you accountable for the "murders" of fetuses due to that vote. That's some twisted logic, to say the least - what about any sins committed by the pro-life candidate if they are elected via your vote, etc? But, it made me start thinking that the christian "pro-life" (I prefer to call them pro-government-forced full term pregnancies) folks are thinking short term here. If you believe that fetuses have souls and If yo
  13. I usually say Happy Holidays if I don't know someone's religion. If they greet me first I usually reply with the same greeting, including Merry Christmas. As others have said, the only time I get upset is when I say Happy Holidays and get a angry Merry Christmas in return.
  14. Excellent signature images Tom - makes the point perfectly
  15. Much happier since I realized that I wasn't so innately evil that I deserved to burn in hell for eternity and that I didn't have to try to pacify a god who created me and then threatened me with eternal punishment if I failed at that. It's amazing what a burden is lifted when you aren't concerned if the bad things that happen to you and your loved ones are caused by sinning or not praying enough or in the right way. As several folks have already said, there are happy people and unhappy people in every group and no one is happy all the time, but I am living proof that you don't need religion
  16. You're probably right - it also helps that it's a little less obviously sexual in the KJV which we used exclusively since it was the version used by the apostles
  17. Mine is fairly simple - I'm from Texas and when I chose my nickname about 15 years ago I considered Freethinker to be the most appropriate label for my position on religion. My avatar combines my interests in religion and human sexuality
  18. I haven't tried reading the entire thing from cover to cover, but our Southern Baptist preacher did a (very long) series of sermons where he read it to us verse by verse. What amazes me is that I don't remember him reading or discussing what is now one of my favorite bible verses - Ezekiel 23:20. "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses." How could I have missed that? Probably was still dozing after all the begats.
  19. Welcome to the site from another Texan - hope you find it as helpful and thought-provoking as I have
  20. I finished watching the series a couple of weeks ago. I found the first two or three episodes a little boring, but thought it got better, and scarier, as it went along. Overall I think it is worth watching.
  21. Just finished this book by David Madison, who is a bible scholar and an ex-pastor. One of the best I've seen at describing why christianity fails from historical, moral and philosophical perspectives. He has a good sense of humor and I found the book to be very readable. The topics he brings up can't be swatted away by christian apologists (not that they haven't tried). If you are looking for a source to help crystallize your thoughts on the key problems with christianity I recommend this book. Here's a quote from one reviewer... "Dr. David Madison pulls no punches in this wid
  22. Dan Barker has done a great job of cataloging and commenting on the hundreds of bible verses that show the christian god to be evil and mean-spirited. If you've ever wanted a handy reference book to use when rebutting a "god is love" christian, this is the one! Dan also brought into focus something I hadn't really understood before. If you believe the New Testament states that Jesus and God are one and have been from the beginning, then sweet Jesus is as much to blame for the ordering of genocide and sexual slavery in the Old Testament as his white-haired father.
  23. Thank you freshstart! I wish I could draw and make anti-Jack Chick tracts
  24. I've been working on a set of pamphlets to share when christians come a'knocking to share the "good news" with me and my family. I think the bible is a vile book and these pamphlets give me an easy way to explain why. I'm curious what others think. The first one is about the god-ordered genocide and sexual slavery in the bible. Genocide and Sex Slavery.pdf
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