Fuego

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About Fuego

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  • Birthday 03/18/1964

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    Vancouver, WA
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    singing, writing, computer geekery, cooking, science experiments, foreign languages, photography, gemstones
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    Was an "on fire" Christian for 30 years, now I lean more towards a pagan-ish bent. I have been in transition since October 2007, so I doubt that I've stopped changing just yet.

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  1. Fuego

    Meditation advice?

    For me, visualization is my most relaxing method. I see myself in a nature scene, like sitting under a willow tree in a field, a warm morning with the sun just rising, a creek audible from one side, wind lightly blowing through the branches and leaves. Actually being in such a place is also very nice. Occasionally, I will put on a rain coat and lie outside during the rain (hidden from view so neighbors don't freak out), and close my eyes and listen to the rain as it makes different sounds on the grass, rocks, bushes, puddles, etc. Another wonderful experience was floating on my back in warm ocean water, ears under water and looking up into a blue sky. The sounds were all muted and all I really heard was my own breathing. Another visualization is from a time I had at a hot springs, up to my nose in a warm pool of water, snow above me in the branches dripping water down into the pool, the drops making circles in the water, and off in the distance the river is roaring with snow melt mixed with snow so the water is nearly white. If I'm trying to sleep, sometimes I will visualize a flat square of light slightly larger than my body passing slowly down through my skull, throat, shoulders, chest, arms, belly, and so on. Slowly seeing this in my mind and it takes with it any tension and such, leaving relaxation. Sometimes I do this a few times, slowly. There are all kinds of these more abstract ways of giving the mind something else to do. Sometimes I'd take a warm bath with the lights off or low, and use headphones to listen to a CD from Hemi-sync, like tribal sounds of drums and didgeridoos, flutes, and so on, or the musical bowls that emit long tones associated with body "chakras". Guided visualization is when you listen to someone else provide the visuals while you keep your eyes closed and let your imagination be guided by the voice of the person. Or you can listen to nature or rain sounds and see yourself there. I hope you find some peace inside. Many of us have toxic people that put all kinds of negative emotions in our heads, and then we tend to replay them instead of rejecting their assumed authority. Learning that you are the most important and meaningful voice for your own life is important. Inner peace is your right, and choosing to pursue that is a powerful thing.
  2. Fuego

    90% of animals appeared at same time?

    That was my take on it, though I may not have said it so clearly. If we all started from the same spot, it makes sense we'd share the same basic mechanism. Then after considerable nuclear genetic diversity, WHAM! Those that are left over didn't spring into being, but survived and adapted.
  3. Fuego

    Netflix: Babylon Berlin

    Just started watching yesterday, and have seen 2.5 episodes. It is set in 1929 Berlin just before the rise of the Nazis, and follows the lives of a couple of people trying to make a living while dealing with the hardships and politics of that time, and some of the fallout of the first world war. They capture the feel of the time well, and I haven't spotted any obvious anachronisms. I'm not sure I'd call it entertaining, but it is quite a good drama. An odd thing for me, I was struck by how the trappings of the higher class look so antique and how thin the veneer was that covers up the most basic animalistic qualities of humans (which are not hardly covered up at all for the lower classes). I was also oddly struck by the concept of a vice squad and the tendency of gov't to regulate sex. I remember growing up in the 60s and how porn was just really beginning to become more public due to Playboy and the court cases Hefner fought. Even then it was very tame nudity.
  4. That was my first question, because if he were part of a "high church" that doesn't really take things literally, his chances of going fundy would be small. But having been part of the fundy crowd, I've seen some fairly innocuous things cause many flip into full hard-on for Jesus. Something can appeal to an emotion that hits deep and boom, a person can't question because it feels so real at that moment despite being utter malarkey. So, mostly just reiterating what others have said.
  5. Fuego

    Citing the Bible

    It really is like Westworld (the new one) where anything that seems dangerous to the faith doesn't get processed but is ignored like it isn't even there. 1: "What do you make of this?" 2: "That doesn't look like anything to me." 1: "What's behind that door?" 2: "What door?" I remember the times I would hear something that disturbed me, and immediately others would tell me to "trust the love I've already felt", and I would shelve the new information instead of considering that I might have been tricked. When I finally was willing to question, it really did feel physically like I was on the edge of a cliff and I squirmed like I was about to fall off the edge. Faith tells them that it is critical for their survival, so even the obvious ties to blatant myths are ignored as soon as the believer senses a danger to the faith.
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    Netflix: Lost in Space

    SPOILERS, First episode only I've only seen the first episode, but the science of the show is so damn lousy that I don't know if I can continue. 1. They show a deep water scene that freezes all at the same time instead of top to bottom. Water freezes on top first, then the ice slowly goes deeper. 2. Oh hey, look at that mountain of blazing white light, we must have lit off a natural deposit of magnesium. Magnesium occurs in ore form combined with other elements and compounds, not as a raw metal. It isn't found in veins of pure metal that you can scrape out of a mountainside like toothpaste. 3. Magnesium doesn't burn hotter when dunked in ice water. That's phosphorus that will burn in air or water. 4. I'm a high tech robot with incredible strength, but I can't get out of this tree. A boy with a metal rope saw will saw the 1ft thick branch instead in a few seconds. Then I will understand English by listening to him for a few minutes. Bleah.
  7. Fuego

    Facebook.... (sigh)

    I created a pseudonym account for some things like Ex-C because I still am undercover with some fundy family members. I occasionally see something that sets me off, but I typically write a lot about it in a text file that I save instead of posting. I can vent and think about the hogwash they wrote and let off the steam.
  8. That seemed very condensed, but what I got from it was 1. Making something sacred to gather around is genetic, an adaptation that helped humans survive, and is thus inherent in our beings. He points to the unlikely rise of nations from tribal hunter/gatherers to building sites like Teotihuacan and similar. He says that the binding thing that caused them to cooperate like this was religion. 2. Reason is the new religion for some, and even though reason has the dressing of being non-dogmatic and based in science, people who promote it versus religion still take on the same polarized attitude when talking about the religious believers and religious concepts. His conclusion is that reason has become sacralized or a substitute religion. His point here was not derogatory, but intended to show the tendency (according to him an innate one) to create and follow a religious path, because doing so is a survival trait. His objection is that it is not proper science to do so. This is fascinating. I've heard psychologists refer to the virtual parent (the introject) that we all have, an inner voice that speaks as though it were a parent reminding us of things that could be dangerous, or telling us how we ought to behave. I had not thought of religion as an actual adaptation previously. Something to think about. On the flip side, I think that some of what Dawkins and Hitchens were doing purposefully was to decry established religions because those religions really do have a default respect and hallowed honor given to them by society. And the best way to end that undeserved respect and hallowed honor was to call them out in no uncertain terms on their vile cruel capricious gods and the commandments that humans consume and regurgitate as though needed for life, when they are continually getting in the way of reason and evidence. So, in one sense it may not be unemotional science to take this approach, it is effective in slapping the face of the false gods of humanity and demanding actual answers, and thus opening a new path for humans to gather around and honor. So I don't think this approach is misplaced or denies science, it appeals instead to the very adaptation of which Haidt speaks, and may indeed be a necessary approach if any success is desired.
  9. Another question: "Why are churches so intent on getting money and making buildings instead of feeding the hungry and clothing the naked?" I always felt like the real believers were outside the buildings. I even talked to a small group that was picketing a church, saying that the church was far more concerned with money and nice cars than in Jesus. I told them I agreed with them. The pastor there was decked out in multiple rings, and had a cadre of business cronies surrounding him at all times to keep the riff-raff like me away. The church emphasized tithing and if you questioned at all, their reply was "I think you'd be happier somewhere else". They wanted controllable gullible sheep, nothing else. And they got rather a lot of them.
  10. Same for the "Farmer's Market" locally, except that they cordon off a city street and sell their stuff, so the city wants to make at least $100 from each stand. That makes it not profitable for most of those who would otherwise set up stands. The city could vote to do a waiver, but they don't want to. It seems to be a trend where if you have money, then you can make more. If you don't, fuck you. Somewhere along the line we moved from being sensible folks to controlled. I remember seeing the start of this when I was a kid, where a kid "entrepreneur" was threatened with legal action for not having other permits like food handler and so on. Most of us know there is an inherent risk of buying food made by a kid, but that gov't actually enforces code against them is weird and excessive. If it turns into a real business, then sure.
  11. Fuego

    Christian manipulation

    The Bible (and Judaism) has a lot of what appears to be witchcraft, such as Jacob with the genetic manipulation of sheep breeding through placing various kinds of tree branches near them; Elijah floating a lost ax head by tossing in a branch; Jesus rubbing mud and spit into a man's eyes to cause him to see; various prophets interactions with god like Gideon's fleece or the other guy that buried a belt that became moldy. What the flying f*ck does that have to do with the power of God vs ooga booga magic or natural results of burying something in dirt? If prayer is witchcraft, it doesn't work very well. God always has a secret "better plan", especially if you need something physical like healing or rent money. He regularly does not answer the prayers of his faithful, and they are so very eager to excuse his failures as deep wisdom instead of non-existence.
  12. Fuego

    90% of animals appeared at same time?

    I don't think I'm genetically resistant to volcanoes... 🙂 I guess it would be hard to say about the bottleneck without actual data, which likely doesn't exist at this point. The superbug thing is real, where the germs develop resistance to our drugs. The ants are still easily controlled with liquid borax and pyrethrins, not sure about fire ants (don't have them in the PNW).
  13. Fuego

    90% of animals appeared at same time?

    Anything that couldn't adapt to the conditions of the planet would have died out. Temperature, light, availability of breathable air, water and food, presence of predators or diseases, etc.
  14. Fuego

    90% of animals appeared at same time?

    They weren't claiming that all species of life arose from nothing 200K years ago, but that they arose via evolution from a common surviving mitochondrial genetic pool (not all the same exact species, but all having the same core building blocks). Nuclear DNA varies greatly and is inherited from every last ancestor an animal ever had. Mitochondrial DNA is more set as-is, and is passed down from mother to mother and drive the very basic motor of taking in energy and supplying that to cells "Their prime function is to take in the sugars that have been converted from the food we eat, and turn them into a form of energy that cells can use." This comment summed it up well: "This article's headline is hilariously, irresponsibly inaccurate. The authors of this study don't conclude anything resembling the "90% of species appeared within the past 200,000 years" nonsense that this article conjures from thin air. It is effectively concluding that most animals have had a "mitochondrial Eve" in the past 200,000 years (that is, an ancestor from whom all modern individuals of that **already extant** species have inherited their mitochondrial genomes). Don't get your science news from unreliable news sources, folks." Link to the study: https://phe.rockefeller.edu/news/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Stoeckle-Thaler-Final-reduced.pdf. The magazine article mostly arises from the final pages of the study. I think it is saying that ALL of the already varied species that survived the world devastation and the last ice age had a common set of mitochondrial DNA, and that from that small pool of survivors, all that we see today expanded and adapted. "However, one should not as a first impulse seek a complex and multifaceted explanation for one of the clearest, most data rich and general facts in all of evolution. The simple hypothesis is that the same explanation offered for the sequence variation found among modern humans applies equally to the modern populations of essentially all other animal species. Namely that the extant population, no matter what its current size or similarity to fossils of any age, has expanded from mitochondrial uniformity within the past 200,000 years." But I think that also implies that they shared this previously even with those that were destroyed by cataclysm, since it isn't likely that there were several mechanisms that arose from the first kinds of life, but rather branching using the same building blocks of mitochondrial dna, and then speciation resulting from the nuclear DNA variations.
  15. Fuego

    Netflix Stranger Things

    I binged watched this show after watching the first episode. They nail the look and feel of the mid-1980s, the clothing, the cars, music, video games, lingo, hair, etc. Small town in Indiana with a secret government facility, leads to very odd things happening to normal people. I was entertained.