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    I'm probably older than most of the members here and have some life experience to look back upon. I never bought into religion and find it the source of too many wars. The more I look at Christianity, the more preposterous it becomes.

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  1. This is what concerns me. As Florduh wrote above, it flies in the face of the benevolence they claim for their religion. I see them codifying their political beliefs into law and manipulating our alleged democracy to their favor so they can gain or keep control. I have no problem with anyone's beliefs until they try to put them onto others. We have seen many cases recently where behavior that harms no one but of which these folks object is being outlawed or restricted. An example is the new law in Arkansas banning gender-affirming medical care for trans youth. We will also see extreme gerrymandering when congressional districts are re-drawn, and they even admit they are doing this on purpose. They are not going to let go without a fight.
  2. Here's a story in The Guardian, the lead of which states: "Republican lawmakers across more than a dozen states are working to limit the powers of local health departments in ways experts say is likely to lead to “preventable tragedies” during disease outbreaks, including the Covid-19 pandemic." The rest of the story is quite scary: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jul/23/republicans-public-health-agencies-alec-coronavirus
  3. From The Onion (America's Finest News Source) Raid Introduces Holy Water-Infused Spray That Allows Cockroaches To Be Baptized And Die As Christians https://www.theonion.com/raid-introduces-holy-water-infused-spray-that-allows-co-1847174499
  4. Well, there is a quote out there from author Harlan Ellison: "The two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity."
  5. Conservative Christian Deeply Offended At Rap Video’s Implication That Satan A Homosexual https://www.theonion.com/conservative-christian-deeply-offended-at-rap-video-s-i-1846583100
  6. https://www.theonion.com/bible-scholars-say-early-mistranslation-distorted-story-1846467632
  7. I continue to fail to understand how people could possibly believe this junk.
  8. Hello friends: Our local paper runs a weekly blurb on Sundays from the Billy Graham outfit. I almost never read it but today I took a look. This is absolutely the most preposterous, illogical, convoluted thing I've read this year. Perhaps one of you would give it a read and untangle the second-to-last sentence for me. On second thought, don't waste your time. It's all junk and twisted thought, but the ending is just one big whoosh: https://billygraham.org/answer/why-doesnt-god-remove-all-suffering-from-our-world/
  9. The right to spread a deadly disease is nothing but selfishness.
  10. Don't try to understand it. Just make up a large bowl of popcorn and enjoy the ride.
  11. I can only speculate but that speculation is that they were trying to explain things for which they had no other way to understand. And they put it into contexts that fit into things they did understand. And some of it may have evolved from pure story telling, sober or otherwise.
  12. I think Dan's advice above is excellent. You are the one who sets the limits for what you are willing to take. And it takes two to have an argument. If you decide that there are topics you do not want to discuss, don't discuss them. Refuse to be drawn in. Don't listen. Turn off the phone, walk out of the room, leave the premises, whatever it takes. Do it calmly (which may be hard) as getting angry feeds their desire to upset you. Don't yell, don't slam the door. Just quietly say you don't want to go down that road so please change the subject. If they don't then calmly leave, closing the door with a gentle click. You won't be the only one who has spent a night or two in his car. And you repeat this as many times as needed until they get the message (and if that takes years, so be it).
  13. I think it's like a friendship. What do you do when someone who was a friend stops reciprocating? You realize that it has ended and you find new friends. Sometimes it's hard to acknowledge that what you had is gone but that's the way it is. And sometimes it's hard to make new friends. It takes work but it can be done.
  14. After reading recent news reports of the collapse of the retail sector it occurred to me that perhaps people don't need all this shit they were buying. Note that in America a person is referred to as a "consumer." In my travels I've noted that people in some countries and cultures use things. We consume things. I am reminded of a brief adventure in retail that I had many years ago. I happened make several visits to the wholesale gift mart in Los Angeles, where all the various retail shops went to get their junk. And I was stunned at this six-story building full of absolute shit, and by the fact that this stuff was selling. If that was a reflection on our values, we are in a world of hurt.
  15. Well there is no afterlife but if there was one, the worst would be to be confined in a room with politicians.
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