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    I'm probably older than most of the members here and have some life experience to look back upon. I never bought into religion and find it the source of too many wars. The more I look at Christianity, the more preposterous it becomes.

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  1. I don't think it will ever die out completely. Fear is a big motivator. People go for this stuff because they are afraid. Afraid of death, of the unknown, of the dark, of anything they don't understand. And those who promote it use standard advertising techniques to hook in new fraidy-cats by convincing them that they have a problem and here is the solution.
  2. As I wrote in another thread on this topic, an opinion writer recently wrote that they cannot solve the problem because they are the problem. The Onion recently posted a satirical article about what kinds of men sign up for this outfit, wherein they are supposed to live a celibate life with a bunch of other men in a severely authoritarian structure , wear funny clothes, and work every Sunday. The Church of Pedophilia cannot change because of the nature of its structure.
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    Here's another take on this from The Onion, American's Finest News Source: https://www.theonion.com/pope-starting-to-suspect-bishops-getting-huge-erections-1828998652
  4. Some months ago our newspaper started running Billy Graham's newspaper column. It's supposed to be a Q&A type thing. I usually ignore it but from time to time I look to see how sophomoric it is. I can't believe that all the questions are real; some, and their answers, are real head bangers. Here's the latest one, "Can we be good on our own, apart from God?" which is full of logical fallacies and false premises: https://www.arcamax.com/healthandspirit/religion/billygraham/s-2116013 I might add that most of the columns I have read make me want to throw up.
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    Pluto might become a planet again

    Yay! And I'm sure Pluto will feel a lot better too.
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    Sex Password?

    Does the password require trigger warnings?
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    Funny Pics Thread Part 4: Electric Boogaloo

    I say it's a fake sign. Google produces no Crystal Methodist Church in South Carolina. There is a town called Effingham but not one called Effing. The sign is just enough out of focus to hide the Photoshop effects. There was a church sign generator on the web a few years back through which you could make all sorts of such fake signs. Sadly, it's gone now. But it was fun while it lasted.
  8. Now it's in Lincoln, Nebraska. https://www.mercedsunstar.com/news/nation-world/article217737185.html A writer of an opinion piece in the NYT wrote that these guys cannot solve the problem because they are the problem.
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    Saying good bye to christain freinds.

    Absolutely. You have to do what is comfortable for you. Just let the friendships die natural deaths.
  10. Geezer: I agree with Buffettphan. I don't see Pence tossing the Constitution, but I can see him and his clan forcing religious dogma upon us through incremental means. Examples include the Hobby Lobby decision and the wedding cake baker. A new case that's coming up is an Oregon construction worker who was fired because he refused to attend Bible study conducted by is employer.1 I can see a court saying that a private business can set the terms and conditions of employment any way they want. We are seeing a movement arise that is using the "freedom of religion" clause as a means for advancing their agenda. And we all remember the proselytization issues at the Air Force Academy.2 Also, access to abortion is being cut incrementally, and primarily by religious groups. While Roe vs. Wade may never be overturned, the opposition has made abortion virtually impossible to get in many places. So it is this way that I see a Pence presidency moving. The president issues policy directions to all the agencies under his control, and even if Congress is opposed, the process for forcing a change to those directions would be cumbersome and time-consuming. There will always be those in Congress who agree with the President and they can bottle things up with parliamentary maneuvers; and the courts have made a notable shift to the right. 1https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2018/08/lawsuit_oregon_construction_wo.html 2 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/11/AR2005111101650.html
  11. Several of us here have mentioned that Pence could be worse than Trump. Here's a recent article about a biography of Pence that raises alarm: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/08/23/mike-pence-book-calls-vice-president-christian-supremacist/1062696002/ "The book asserts that many of Pence’s evangelical friends believed his ultimate purpose is to establish a government based on biblical law, what they called “Christian Dominionism.”" And here's the follow-up story: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/08/31/mike-pence-quotes-bible-response-being-called-christian-supremacist/1161092002/ WASHINGTON — Vice President Mike Pence turned to the Bible when asked recently what he makes of a new critical biography that calls him as a “Christian supremacist."
  12. The Supreme Court has said* that if a public school newspaper is part of a curricular activity, the school can exercise control over its content. OTOH if the paper is a public forum, the students have clear First Amendment rights. Now this is a private, not public, school, so that would probably give more weight to administrative control. But what is interesting is that the school is accepting public funds. In this case, it would be up to the courts to decide how much control a school administration would have. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazelwood_School_District_v._Kuhlmeier
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    Only Christians Need Apply

    Well, if Pence becomes president, you may be right.
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    Only Christians Need Apply

    Whew. But with the Hobby Lobby case and the cake baker case lurking in the background, I can see this going all the way and our guy losing.
  15. Well, there is a lot of truth to it.