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    I'm probably older than most of the members here and have some life experience to look back upon. I never bought into religion and find it the source of too many wars. The more I look at Christianity, the more preposterous it becomes.

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  1. older

    I Just Realized That I Don't Want to Be a Christian...

    Yes. It feels like a weight has been lifted from your shoulders, doesn't it? Yup. You got it. Keep us informed as to how it's going.
  2. Well, Mrs. Older is a liberal Christian and has gone to church fairly regularly for all of the 48 years we've been married. She knew from day one that I wasn't into it but it doesn't seem to matter to her. She does her church thing, doing the ritualistic cannibalism and all the stand-kneel-sit-stand aerobics and I stay home and have fun in my workshop. We just don't discuss religion. And she's quite the rabbit; she pulled me down on the couch shortly after we started dating and she's been grabbing at me ever since. Life is full of risk. You just have to evaluate the possibilities of success and failure and decide what risks you are willing to take.
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    Oh, the Irony...

    Some time ago I was in a mainstream church and the minister and some folks in the congregation started making negative remarks about another branch of that church. I came within a breath of walking out. If it had continued for even another fifteen seconds I would have.
  4. Well, the headline says: "Fewer teens having sex, doing drugs but more are depressed" So perhaps if the teens started having more sex and doing drugs they would be less depressed..... (Yeah.... I know it's a serious story, but I couldn't resist the headine. As Hunter Thompson once wrote, "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.") https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna883276
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    Old Christian books

    Had to attend a fundy service recently. I didn't count the Bibles in people's hands, but there were many. I didn't see one of them opened. Very impressive covers and binding, though.
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    Funny Pics Thread Part 4: Electric Boogaloo

    Trump works out trade deal with Kim Jong Un
  7. While this is over the top in most cases, I do recall one wherein the kids were being used as a front by a parent and the whole thing had gone overboard and was clearly into the commercial arena. In spite of that there was bad press for the enforcers, who were just concerned about the health issues involved. But for the folks who drilled down into the story the issue was clear. So before passing judgment on the cops or whoever, I'd want to hear their side of the story.
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    Knott's question thread:

    ^ ^ ^ That's a great way to put it, Redneck. I'll remember that.
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    Married to a Christian

    Wise thoughts, LP.
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    Darwin in the National Parks

    Yup. I don't think I could be an objective juror in such a case. I found the case. It was in 1986, in Ronald Caspers Wilderness Park in Orange County. The child was a 5-year-old named Laura Small. Her head was crushed and she lost an eye and is paralyzed on her right side. I'm sorry the girl was bitten, but life is fraught with peril. A popular hike that we take several times a year has just such a sign at the trailhead. The ludicrousness of this is that this trail runs near a highway and some homes and the likelihood of a mountain lion there is practically zero, while there are no such signs on the many other trails we take that are farther into the wilderness. I have encountered black bears on the trails here in the central Sierra Nevada and if you use common sense, there isn't a problem. We had one cross in front of us on a hike about a month ago. It took off down the slope and disappeared like something from a David Copperfield show. Follow the rules. Never, ever, hike alone. Stay together. If the bear doesn't run away, blow the athletic coach's whistle you have on the lanyard around your neck, make yourself look as big as you can, and stand your ground — do not run. Unless you have a slab of bacon tied around your neck, they will run when they see you. I also carry pepper spray just in case but I've never had to reach for it. Now grizzly bears are a different matter, but they are extinct in California. We saw some grizzlies in Alaska but the guides we were with made noise from time to time so as to not surprise a bear, and they also carried the industrial-strength bear spray. I have heard of folks who tie small jingle bells to their boots, but that would drive me crazy. The vast majority of bear attacks are the result of surprising the bear.
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    When Will Christians Become A Minority In The USA?

    They are, regardless of declining numbers, well organized and are actively working to inflict their agenda upon us. In my area political scientists say liberals vote less often than conservatives, the latter being far more religious. So in order to keep the government secular, we need to get everyone to the polls. Even local elections are important. In our town (which could be named "Churchville") the city council just posted "In God We Trust" over the dais.
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    When Will Christians Become A Minority In The USA?

    When Will Christians Become A Minority In The USA? Not soon enough.
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    Married to a Christian

    Please don't make a presumption that a divorce is traumatic for children. Sometimes it's good for them. When my parents announced a separation I was elated. I could hardly wait for the palpable tension in the house to end as well the pressure on me from one parent who vented his frustrations on me. I was disappointed when they reconciled and he moved back home but by then I'd pretty much figured out how to stay out of his sight. But I would have much rather have lived in a single-parent house.
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    Knott's question thread:

    "I have a question, I'm curious about how atheists come to believe in no god." Many Christians think that atheism is a belief system and what I see in the question is a presumption that being an atheist is a belief, or somehow requires belief. That's different from not believing. The lack of evidence to support the existence of gods doesn't require belief. Rather, it's an analysis of fact.