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  1. I continue to fail to understand how people could possibly believe this junk.
  2. Hello friends: Our local paper runs a weekly blurb on Sundays from the Billy Graham outfit. I almost never read it but today I took a look. This is absolutely the most preposterous, illogical, convoluted thing I've read this year. Perhaps one of you would give it a read and untangle the second-to-last sentence for me. On second thought, don't waste your time. It's all junk and twisted thought, but the ending is just one big whoosh: https://billygraham.org/answer/why-doesnt-god-remove-all-suffering-from-our-world/
  3. As the cliche goes, you can't make this stuff up. The School of Supernatural Ministry, with about 10,000 members, who cure illness with prayer, has has 137 cases of Covid. https://www.sacbee.com/news/coronavirus/article246410345.html [S]tate and church officials are asking the student body of more than 1,600 people at the Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry in Shasta County to lock down at their homes and apartments after 137 students and staff members tested positive for COVID-19. The cases represent 10 percent of Shasta County’s total infections so far.
  4. The right to spread a deadly disease is nothing but selfishness.
  5. Don't try to understand it. Just make up a large bowl of popcorn and enjoy the ride.
  6. I can only speculate but that speculation is that they were trying to explain things for which they had no other way to understand. And they put it into contexts that fit into things they did understand. And some of it may have evolved from pure story telling, sober or otherwise.
  7. I think Dan's advice above is excellent. You are the one who sets the limits for what you are willing to take. And it takes two to have an argument. If you decide that there are topics you do not want to discuss, don't discuss them. Refuse to be drawn in. Don't listen. Turn off the phone, walk out of the room, leave the premises, whatever it takes. Do it calmly (which may be hard) as getting angry feeds their desire to upset you. Don't yell, don't slam the door. Just quietly say you don't want to go down that road so please change the subject. If they don't then calmly l
  8. I think it's like a friendship. What do you do when someone who was a friend stops reciprocating? You realize that it has ended and you find new friends. Sometimes it's hard to acknowledge that what you had is gone but that's the way it is. And sometimes it's hard to make new friends. It takes work but it can be done.
  9. After reading recent news reports of the collapse of the retail sector it occurred to me that perhaps people don't need all this shit they were buying. Note that in America a person is referred to as a "consumer." In my travels I've noted that people in some countries and cultures use things. We consume things. I am reminded of a brief adventure in retail that I had many years ago. I happened make several visits to the wholesale gift mart in Los Angeles, where all the various retail shops went to get their junk. And I was stunned at this six-story building full of absolute shit, an
  10. Well there is no afterlife but if there was one, the worst would be to be confined in a room with politicians.
  11. And don't forget social, political or hobby clubs. I once heard of a woman who had been a widow for too many years and she was lonely. She figured out what kind of clubs the men were in and joined one and, you guessed it, found a mate.
  12. So sorry to hear this, Lost. Dan has some excellent advice above. Our family also suffered a tragic, unexpected loss and what I can tell you from that experience is that the panic attacks will subside with time. We also learned that there is no one way to grieve, no right way. Everyone will deal with it in his or her own way. You will also receive unexpected kindnesses and unintentional thoughtlessness. The former will touch you; ignore the latter as those people mean well but simply do not know how to express themselves sensitively. Thank them all regardless. A grief
  13. Thanks for your comments, TruthSeeker0. The key phrase for me was the advice columnist writing, "unnecessary risks." While I was agonizing over risk, and how life is full of risk and should I take this one or not, I had not realized that there are necessary risks and unnecessary ones. And there are risks that may not be necessary but are ones for which we have some metric for decision making. But this virus is so different from anything the world has experienced in the last 100 years. There is no matrix for risk analysis for COVID-19. The trip to the pharmacy or the grocery store is a necessar
  14. Well, I have come to peace. I want to see my grandchildren and their family. As I wrote above, you cannot understand the pain of separation from loved ones until you experience it for yourself. But I have decided that hugging them, having them over for an overnight, going to a party at their house, will have to wait. I woke up last night thinking about masks, and how wearing a mask in public shows concern for others, while not wearing one is a sign of selfishness. And that led me to think about selfishness and why I want to have the children for an overnight. And the reason is that I want to.
  15. I'm with you, Prof. I've thought a lot about this during the last three weeks or so. Many years ago I worked with a woman who, when we were discussing some conflict or issue that had arisen in our large institution, would frequently say, "It all comes down to money." And I think that phrase could be applied to every aspect of our current problems. We have everything we need to solve the problems. We could have stopped the virus, we could care for the sick, feed the hungry, and correct every other problem that we face. There is no excuse for someone to go hungry; no excuse for someone to die be
  16. Thinking about the posts above from Florduh and the Prof., I read an interesting piece the other day about freedom. The freedom to vs. the freedom from. And part of the piece was that sometimes the freedom to results in a selfish action or response, without consideration of other people's freedom from. For some things the answer is clear but for others it is a conundrum. But back to the o.p., my doc ordered an antibody test for me and the results came back with so many disclaimers that the test is essentially meaningless.
  17. Well, I taught at a four-year state university and I saw a handout from a history professor that looked like it was written by a second-grade student. And this was NOT an issue of English as a second language. (Frankly, many of the foreign students I encountered had stronger English skills than some of the native speakers.) And, having seen the application letters from PhDs seeking employment with us, nothing surprises me. Anyone who has worked at a university knows that there is no shortage of nut cases on the payroll. Twenty minutes at a faculty committee meeting will confirm this.
  18. ^ ^ ^ Best part of the whole program. And welcome. Stick around and contribute to the discussions. And be sure to navigate your way to Citsonga's cartoon collection over in the humor section of the clubs department.
  19. Thanks, Dave, for posting the link. I'm going to keep it open for a while.
  20. This reminds me of a discussion I once overheard in a professional context. One of them finally said, "We may disagree but we can still remain friends."
  21. TruthSeeker0 writes: ____ I've been assuming this isn't going anywhere quickly. It is sobering hearing from people whose parents died, and others who are in hospital fighting for their lives. And of healthcare workers and people in their prime of life who had it, barely made it through, or didn't make it. I'd rather look at my walls and be here at the end of all this. ____ And Florduh writes: ____ But..... the rest of us need to be pragmatic and realize we can't stay at home indefinitely. We need to slowly and judiciously start living again because it could be year
  22. Dan makes an excellent point. If you peruse the Lion's Den, you'll see that the debates with the Christians who come here really do little more than exercise the debate skills of the participants. No one really concedes much and no minds are changed. And in many of those cases what starts out as a respectful back-and-forth descends into something less than that. What I find most useful instead is to engage the person in conversation by asking them questions about their position, doing it in a respectful way, even if you don't respect them. I tell them that I really want to have a b
  23. You deserve a raise, too, Freedwoman. Hazardous duty pay for sure. Seriously. And I hope your boss has put in some safety devices. I just checked where one of my grandsons works, at a snow cone stand in a remodeled old style gas station. Folks come to a walk-up window to order. The college-age woman behind the window was unmasked and there was no glass or plex barrier between her and the customers, none of whom were wearing masks while ordering. And they were not three feet away from each other. But I should not be surprised; this place could have been named Redneckville.
  24. Two headlines just popped up on my Google news feed: New York Post: New Mutation Indicates that Coronavirus Might Be Weakening Los Angeles Times: Study Reports Mutant Coronavirus. It May Be More Contagious Which validates the article Webmdave posted above: Nobody knows what the hell is going on.
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