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    6 hours ago, Edgarcito said:

    So here is what I see please:

     

    Understanding physical/chemical mechanisms (proof) -> natural/physical -> behaviors -> proof of cultural norms.

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    Modified to:

     

    Understanding physical/chemical mechanisms (theories/explanations/predictions, all subject to falsifiability) -> natural/physical (is this redundant?) -> behaviors -> explanations and predictions of and concerning cultural consensus.

     

    6 hours ago, Edgarcito said:

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    We know that if we understand the physical/chemical mechanisms, then we should be able to prove everything thereafter.

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    I don't "know" this, and neither do you.  That being said, the evidentiary history strongly suggests many things can be explained and predicted, with a fairly high degree of probability (subject, of course to modification or outright falsifiability) by first understanding physical/chemical/biological mechanisms.

     

    6 hours ago, Edgarcito said:

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    So where is the breakdown....too many variables, complexity?

     

    You seem to expect the human species, collectively, should have all the answers now.  It doesn't, although many work quite hard to understand more as time passes.


  2. Thanks for giving us your update, RealityCheck.  I must not have been paying attention, but I did not realize you were experiencing such personal trauma, aggravation and despair.  Good news that you have solved and/or mitigated those issues.

     

    Keep in touch with this forum.  There is no reason to quit it.

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  3. 28 minutes ago, Edgarcito said:

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    Why pursue some different morality that is not just as is, how we exist.

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    Please spend the time to write complete and coherent sentences, as that would be quite helpful for any discussion.

    Put more simply, the above sentence simply sucks.


  4. 4 hours ago, Renora said:

    I thought I was going nuts and thinking thoughts no one else did. 

     

    It's a relief to not feel alone.  I keep working on getting over things, just being happy, coming from love, only to find myself taken advantage of and angrier than ever. 

     

     

     

    Sit back, relax and enjoy the conversations you have here. 

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  5. 2 hours ago, florduh said:

    I'm still always amazed at those who posit a god/creator/whatever that is beyond our realm of experience. Not only is that god unable to be verified by its very definition, it would be irrelevant to us by that same definition. So why are we talking about it?

     

    Many claim their God is not definable, not knowable, etc., yet in the very next breath make claim after claim of how they "define" and "know" their particular sky fairy, or set of sky fairies.  Of course, they also claim they have a special access, a privileged observing position, etc.

     

    They're full of themselves, and full of shit.

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    48 minutes ago, dobokdude said:

    True. Hopefully I will be starting therapy soon.

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    Good.  Do you believe you need therapy for a minor event that occurred three years ago?

     

    48 minutes ago, dobokdude said:

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    Just curious, what would you have done in my shoes?

     

    I don't know.  Often, there are many different ways to deal with a situation such as you described and many of those possible ways are just fine.  One is not necessarily better than another, just different.

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  7. Christianity, as well as many other religions, has always been composed of numerous sects, often competing with each other and often developing dogma and beliefs which reject or ignore earlier dogma and beliefs.  Humans invented and control the dogma and beliefs, as well as the changes in them over time.  As much as Jesus hypothetically would have rejected certain dogma and beliefs of some modern Christian sects, those same modern Christian sects demonstrate they reject the mythological dogma and beliefs of Jesus.


  8. 4 minutes ago, Kdeaustin said:

    Yeah I’m hoping I like this secular counselor I’ve contacted. It’s hard because my husband isn’t really an intellectual thinker. I mean he’s smart but he just doesn’t think like I do. He’s a diesel mechanic. He can fix and build anything. And he’s really smart at that kind of stuff. And a really genuinely kind person. But as far as the questions and stuff I have he doesn’t think the way I do. He also doesn’t understand my anxiety because he’s never struggled with it. He tries to understand, but I know he doesn’t. He tells me he wishes he could trade places with me, but he still doesn’t understand. So it’s hard for me to talk to him about this stuff. He just believes because he’s been taught to believe and I think the thought of him not believing is scary for him. So I try not to convince him of anything. This has been hard enough for me. I don’t want him to go through anything like that too. So it’s just hard not having many unbelievers to talk to. My husband does believe in annihilation though. He’s always just believed that. I wish I could just believe that. 

     

    Talking with a secular mental health professional is a good idea.  Be patient.  It can take time to find the right therapist and then further time to address the issues.

     

    Fortunately, you seem to have high levels of introspective and honest intellect, which will serve you well.  Your emotional and psychological health, however, appears damaged.  Work on those parts.

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  9. 5 hours ago, Kdeaustin said:

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    And like why when people are really struggling why doesn’t [God] just come down and hug them. Like if my child was struggling really bad and crying and thinking about suicide I would run to them and hug them. Or if my child was struggling with faith in me I would do everything to prove myself. Why can’t God do that?

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    A rather plausible explanation is the God you reference does not exist.


  10. 3 hours ago, Kdeaustin said:

    ...but I still have big questions that I just don’t know if I will ever have the answer to.

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    Given time, I suspect you will find satisfactory answers to your questions.  Be patient.  Work hard.

     

    3 hours ago, Kdeaustin said:

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    There is good and evil in the world, so where does this come from?

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    Perhaps you could start with where there is no good and/or evil in the world.  Does it exist on Mars?  Deep in the ocean among the variety of species living there?  Inside of a mountain?

     

    Good and evil are generally attributed to the behaviors and actions of moral agents, such as homo sapiens and some other sentient species.  Quantitatively, nearly all human behavior is neither good or evil, but simply neutral.  For example, which foot I use to step out of my front door in the morning (left of right) is neutral behavior.  Whether I choose to have broccoli or cauliflower with my dinner is neutral behavior.

     

    All that being said, good and/or evil behavior and actions do occur.  For the most part, they "come from" humans.

     

    3 hours ago, Kdeaustin said:

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    Where did we all come from?

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    The empirical evidence convincingly suggests we (i.e., you, me and other extant humans) come from our ancestors via reproductive processes inherent in carbon based life on Earth.

     

    3 hours ago, Kdeaustin said:

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    Is the Big Bang theory really any more plausible than the existence of God?

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    I don't know.  The BBT (and/or similar cosmological scientific theories) are certainly plausible, as are other well founded scientific theories.  Plausibility does not equate with certainty but simply generates probability.

    The existence of God is generally based on religious faith, usually instilled through childhood religious indoctrination by trusted adults.  Based on your posts so far, I conclude you are infected with religious indoctrination.

     

    3 hours ago, Kdeaustin said:

    ...Why does there seem to be crazy things that do happen like people mysteriously not having cancer anymore (this happened to my uncle) he didn’t get “saved” until many years later on his death bed. But I mean there are some pretty crazy things that happen just in general like sighting of “aliens” and “miracles.”

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    You assume you uncle's cancer remission was due to magic.  Consider it was due to his immune system's action and/or human medical intervention.  Is that plausible?

     

    3 hours ago, Kdeaustin said:

    ...and then my mom has been sending me all this stuff about how the Nephilim are really in Antarctica and the US government is going to enact Marshall law and how they bought a bunch of guillotines and how revelation is coming true right before our eyes?

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    Your mother is a nutcase.  Learn to ignore her nonsense.  That will take time.

     

    3 hours ago, Kdeaustin said:

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    I really want some material that explains everything in revelation to that time. 

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    I suggest you spend time studying other topics.  Revelations is mythology, politics and nonsense all rolled into one.

     

    3 hours ago, Kdeaustin said:

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    Does anyone know anything? 

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    Save this question for later.

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  11. 12 hours ago, Moonobserver said:

    There's a serious theological problem with the idea of any sin being unpardonable. Christian theology holds that sin was brought into the world by one man---Adam---and that Jesus was the second Adam sent to repair the spiritual damage done by the first Adam. It also states in verses like Romans 5:20 that the deed of the second Adam was greater than the deed of the first. But if the first Adam brought into the world any sin which the second Adam couldn't take away, how would the second Adam be the greater of the two? If there's any sin which the believer has to go through life avoiding because grace doesn't cover it, then the believer still lives under law and not fully by grace. There are further points to be made, but these generally lay out the problem.

     

    Why are you playing in the theist's sandbox?

     

    Just asking.

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