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  1. Hello-- I was wondering if there were any economists in the house-- is America really in danger of losing its reserve currency status for our dollar? I see a lot of goldbugs saying this. One is Jim Richards-- is he a nut job? He talks about globalism and SDRs leading to global currency, etc. if we do lose reserve currency status, would this destroy the US economy, or can we work through this change?
  2. Well, I wonder if god is mad at poor Mexico now-- 2 earthquakes just a couple of weeks apart! And all the hurricanes that seem to devastate the island countries.
  3. I had these two articles sent to me on Facebook by a family member-- how can I debunk these. I did check the events, and the dates to appear to line up, give or take a few days. Is this coincidence or something else? Do these people just not count devastating events that don't happen to coincide with discussions regarding Israel? https://www.charismanews.com/opinion/62044-10-times-god-has-hit-america-with-a-major-disaster-after-the-us-attempted-to-divide-the-land-of-israel and http://www.1timothy4-13.com/files/prophecy/disasters.html
  4. I took a look at the video-- it was really interesting!
  5. What is this Third Inheritence of the Jews? Is this just something that came about after 70ad? I dont think it is biblical as the article I linked doesn't have really any scripture to support it. I had read that isiah 11:11 might be supportive because it talks about a "second " return. Thoughts on this? Could DNA even provide enough detail to divide Israel by tribes? And wouldn't Jordan and the Palestinians have to give up major land? http://blog.godreports.com/2017/06/israel-entering-third-inheritance-must-divide-land-between-12-tribes-rabbi-says/
  6. I looked up every verse in the Bible that had "son" in it--- I used biblehub and scanned the verses quickly-- but couldn't find anything related to what this person said.
  7. I was reading on a Christian Forum on the topic of the rending of the veil and what sorts of proofs there were of it. One person's answer really confused me, and I tried to look up his information to see if it was valid, but couldn't find anything. He said: Basically, the curtain that was torn was not the curtain between the holy of holies and the holy place... it was the curtain on the outer doors of the temple. How were the people on the hill able to see this curtain being torn if it was the curtain to the holy place?!?! As well, there is a prophecy in Isaiah where one asked, "If a man were to lose his son he would rend his clothes. But what would G-d do if he lost his son? He would rend the curtain on the gates of the temple." (his paraphase) 1. Was there some sort of prophecy in Isiaiah regarding god rending the temple curtain due to the loss of his son? I couldn't find it. 2. If there is this prophecy, why isn't is mentioned anytime the veil is discussed? 3. Is there some other text that this guy is getting mixed up with Isaiah? 4. Has ANYONE heard of this so called prophecy? Just curious. The forum was rather old. I did try to contact the gentleman who wrote this, but he hasn't gotten back to me.
  8. Welcome! It is always so interesting for me to hear about those that held high level positions in churches that end up losing the faith. Thanks for your story. Your wife sounds awesome as well!
  9. Oh-- wait? This angel appeared in Miami on the day the pope was announced--- why Miami?
  10. Nice photoshopping on the angel in the clouds!!
  11. I have had the rapture fear for a long time as well. Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night and have to look over to make sure my hubby is still here. Indoctrination is a horrible thing. Perhaps your therapist should watch the movie to see how it. Could have affected you a such a young age.
  12. Thanks for starting this thread OF--- it was really nice to hear how much you have been helped on this site. In turn, you have helped many others, including me. I think that this site is very helpful for those that may not be able to discuss de-converting with their friends, families, or even their spouses. It is a place to come to when you are afraid, and a place for people when they just want a friend. I come on the site a number of times a day--and I always seem to learn new things. It fills a void for a lot of us!
  13. I know what it is like to be anxious-- and it is an awful feeling-- I am so sorry that you are feeling this way-- hell is not real. It was created by pagan religions and then adopted by the Jews and later the Christians. There is no devil to run the place-- nor a god to send you there.
  14. I float in and out myself-- but when I need to talk ex-c is always here, like a good friend with great common sense!!
  15. Hey Matt Foley! Do you live in a van down by the river? Sorry-- just an SNL reference! I agree with you-- I never really felt any of the things that other people said they did while attending church. I think that people like us are just critical thinkers who just can't buy the "party-line". That was a huge problem for me as well, coming from a fundamentalist church. I spoke in tongues but only be cause I told myself to-- not because the spirit led me.-- I recently tested this out by speaking in tongues while interspersing I don't believe in god right in the middle!!! All in the mind. I think you just saw through the bullshit at a young age-- that's why you didn't feel any big change-- because there isn't anything.
  16. I totally understand where you are coming from-- religion has really done a number on me too-- and I still suffer from unresolved fears. One time I told someone on this site that it is hard when your fears are biblically related because you can't just say to yourself--"Don't worry, it's not the end of the world!- because in your mind, it is!! That us a hard thing to get over-- but you are not alone, and thank goodness for sites like this!
  17. The OP may also be referring to Matthew 16:27-28 when talking about people not tasting death before they see him coming in glory--- but verse 26 refers to the final judgement-- verse 27 then says that some of the people standing there listening to him would not taste dearth til they saw the Son of Man coming in his kingdom--- unless there are some 2000+ year olds running around-- this is a failed prophecy. And when Jesus appeared supposedly to his followers he must not have been all that glorious as some even doubted him-- wouldn't it have been far greater for him to appear to everyone-- Jews, Romans, and Christians to show his glory?
  18. Mjsolis--- welcome to sanity!! I too was in a Pentecostal church and it almost ruined my life. I am stll working through a lot of issues but the people on this website are awesome and are always willing to help you work through whatever questions you may have. No question is silly-- if it will help you! It is all going to be ok!!
  19. Hey Ilovemybrain, I love your brain too-- it seems to be a lot like mine! I saw the Exorcist when I was 7 years old-- my mom took me to the drive-in with her. That one did a number on me as well! I worried for years that my bed would start bouncing around with me in it-- scary!! I watched the movie a few years back and still found it to be frightening-- but mostly because I think it is just a very good movie about good and evil-- even though I don't believe in the overall concepts. I also read the book, and found it to be even better. I will take a look at the book you recommended. I am reading a lot of different things right now, and it is helping a whole lot!
  20. I had not heard this arguement before, but find it to be very weak. I always find it interesting that christians want to literally interpet most verses-- but when one comes along that cannot be easily reconciled through the literal interpetation, such as this one-- then they try to say that it really means something else. It is pretty clear to me that Jesus was saying that some of these apostles would not die before he returned. As an arguement to this-- if Jesus really was talking about spiritual death, would this not apply to ALL of the apostles-- so he should have said that NONE of them would taste death. He explicitly states "some" will not taste death, which indicates that some of the apostles might have been expected to pass away prior to his return, but not all-- Also, take this verse with others that indicate Jesus would return in this generation's lifetime-- and the apostles lifetime, and I think that you could easily disregard the "spiritual death" explanation-- WEAK!!
  21. Thank you all so much for your replies-- it is always interesting to see how people end up at the same point, but often use different pathways to get there! Overcame Faith, you should take all of your writings and put together a book on the deconversion process- you are a very good writer, probably as a result of your profession-- but it bet that book would be very interesting and heart-felt. I will probably hit you up for strength when I feel myself slipping back-- but I can tell you that I am finding my fear episodes seem to be lasting for shorter and shorter amounts of time. When I find myself entertaining fearful thoughts, such as "What if this ONE thing in the bible actually comes true?", I remind myself of the conversations we have had in this blog, and also all of the things that I have read regarding the inaccuracies of the bible, including prophecy. That really helps! During my deconversion process, I also ran across the preterist teachings, including Gary DeMar's works. He spends enormous amounts of time debunking end-time prophecy as it relates to fundamentalists, and I appreciated a lot of what he had to say. For the most part, I think that the preterists are the closest to interpeting the bible as it was intended-- but they miss the boat, because they don't accept that some of what is written in just plain wrong. For me, it was the following scripture that made me first question the bible: 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom. I had never noticed this scripture before, and realized that this was one of the things that Jesus was supposed to have said-- how could he say that people in his time would not taste death before he returned? If you take the verse right before, it is clear that he is talking about his return in judgement-- not the transfiguration, or pentecost as some would assert. I think it is pretty clear that this is a pretty huge failed prophecy-- unless there are some really old people hiding out somewhere!! Anyway, this verse, and then the companion verses in Mark and Luke that state the same thing led me to question the bible and I am still comforted by a review of these verses as validation of it's inaccuracy-- the opposite of how christians look to the bible to verify their belief!!
  22. Sorry-- I thought I had posted, but it did not take! I always appreciate hearing what it was that finally made people say-- this is stupid! I am not going to beleive this any more-- sometimes it is finding biblical discrepencies, and other times it is just realizing that ones prayers were never really answered, but that life just ended up resolving itself one way or another. You may have said it before, but what was it that officially tipped the scales for you? While I undstand logic, and am actually a big fan-- fear operates in an illogical mode, and that is what makes it so difficult to reason away. I plan to keep perusing this site to help me with my logical reasoning and will do my best to remind myself that the bible's prophecy track record is dismal at best-- so even though life may develop in a way that seems to have an allusion towards bible prophecy (such as microchips), it is just an allusion-- based on some people's interpetation!! You may hear from me again if I have another dark day-- but I am really working hard on this, and am looking forward to moving on and enjoying my life!
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