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    photography, reading, religion, grandchildren, art, cosmology sitting-on-my-ass, cognitive-science, but not cooking.
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    Retired chef, factory worker, preacher, handyman, car salesman, business owner, restaurant manager, Chicken farm hand, hired killer, paper boy, kid, baby, fetus, sperm/egg... Still employed as husband and grandfather.

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  1. Astronomers Find 90% More Universe! Astronomers have long known that many surveys of distant galaxies miss 90% of their targets, but they didn't know why. Now, astronomers have determined that a large fraction of galaxies whose light took 10 billion years to reach us have gone undiscovered. This was found with an extremely deep survey using two of the four giant 8.2-meter telescopes that make up ESO’s Very Large Telescope (VLT) and a unique custom-built filter. The survey also helped uncover some of the faintest galaxies ever found at this early stage of the Universe. Astronomers freq
  2. chefranden

    Consciousness

    I'm not having any problem. You want there to be something else then what is. I spent many years wanting Middle Earth to be real, but that didn't make it real. Even now I'd like this warm caring made specially for humans universe to be real. It just isn't that's all. Hell I would even quote Holy Texts if it would make every thing nice and cozy. Doesn't a good Zen believer believe that "I" am an illusion? Well it turns out to be true. "I" am an illusion projected by matter gathered in a certain arrangement, an illusion that perceives itself and fools itself into believing it is something ot
  3. chefranden

    Consciousness

    The cells are not disassociated. I dare say that disassociated cells would not project an "I". The brain is a set of associated cells. I'm not knowledgeable enough to describe the mechanism in detail. To my knowledge, nobody has acquired this knowledge in total yet. But the science is all pointing in this direction. I haven't heard of any science that points to something transcendent. One possible exception is Rupert Sheldrake, but I think that he is widely regarded as a crackpot. But even he has a physical mechanism, a morphic field. However even if there were something "transcendent"
  4. chefranden

    Consciousness

    Wrong world space????? I only know of one world space. Wrong language??? Sorry I only know English. Subjective reality requires a subject, and the subject requires -- is contingent on -- matter. Subjective reality is not the foundation for objective reality. Objective reality is the foundation of subjective reality i.e. with out matter and it's interactions you don't have "Thought. Emotion. Ideals. Dreams. Hopes. Faith. Vision. Desire. Aspiration. Love. Respect. Disgust. Etc. Etc. Etc. Etc. Etc." If this other(right)world exists you only need to get it out for us to
  5. So then, people have been worshiping zombies for a long time...
  6. Oh Yah! Schaeffer was all the rage when I was in Bible Collage. I think that that his books primed me for intellectual deconversion and I still look for absurd ends.
  7. chefranden

    Consciousness

    What is this internal world really? Let's place it on the table like we'd ask a Christian to do with God, or a soul, or an angel... What is it made out of? Maybe it is not made of anything, maybe its some sort of amorphous nothing that nevertheless contains all the information needed to make matter do all the stuff it does. When something is actually unfolded, say a human, what does one find? More stuff that's what one finds -- chemicals, electrons... and interactions. Where is the human? It's back up there where you started to take it apart, and that is the only place it is. The
  8. No, I usually wake up hoping someone else has made the coffee. But randomness doesn't cause all this. Natural selection does. Randomness only supplies the contestants for natural selection.
  9. chefranden

    Consciousness

    You need to read I Am A Strange Loop. An interesting dismissive word this "mere". Self-identity is a brain state. What else could it be? Even if you invoke the ghost in the machine then self-identity is a mere ghost state. It seems self evident to me that self-identity is a brain state, because of the numerous times that I (my brain) is not self aware. Your computer is not self aware, but that doesn't mean that it couldn't be with the sufficient circuitry to run a self aware program. And that program doesn't have to be complete, that is it doesn't have to be aware of exactly w
  10. chefranden

    Who Are We?

    What the hell is a soul, and how do you know that it is rational? I would say that thriving is the goal that happiness helps produce. But even "to thrive" is a temporary state. Permanent happiness is impossible in a human. You may maintain that you are happy and that you have been happy for a long time, but that is still not permanence.
  11. [quote name='Kerplunk' date='18 March 2010 - 04:48 PM' timestamp='1268948880' Since when is there no free will in Heaven? I think there is a confusion about free will and license. At least within the Thomistic-Franciscan dialogue there has been a question whether happiness once attained could be lost. Francis, having such a deep respect for human free will, maintained that it was possible for a person to enjoy the splendors of Heaven and subsequently reject it. Thomas, however, stated that the joy experienced in Heaven would be so great that it would not be possible for a person to imagi
  12. Let me bounce some ideas off of you Chef. Say we do acknowledge the model of natural systems as some arrangement and dynamic of mass/energy and four forces (I guess you mean gravity, electromagnetism, strong and weak interactions). I think under this model, accurate as it may be, we only examine two causes, namely material and efficient causation. That's the capability of the model. However when we examine an organized material system other models are available for us. Even Shyone's stack of bricks example may provide us with a hint. We are free to ask "why?" about a stack of brick
  13. It appears that the world was made for Jellyfish. Now that's special.
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