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    Married father of 2 from New Zealand

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  1. Wertbag

    Preparing for fundy visit

    I would try to avoid any discussion, no need to burn any bridges if you don't have to. You could probably already guess the answers you will get, they'll be the same thoughtless repetition of what they were taught.
  2. Aron Ra has some great videos but some are so complex on deep subjects (the categories of life ones come to mind) that its often not aimed at a beginner level. I remember going to the museum for the first time and seeing the dinosaurs. I don't think you appreciate the share size of the animals until you stand beside one. They had the full T-Rex skeleton at Auckland museum, and we are so lucky these things went extinct. Humans are relatively useless, we have no natural weapons or defences, aren't great swimmers or climbers and are slower than most predators.
  3. Sorry, I asked him a question, I should have known better than that. Apologies everyone, please go back to ignoring the crazy.
  4. Surely you can see melt rates are testable, observable and can be easily tracked over time? Ignoring all of the climate change discussion and focusing on just this piece of information, isn't the reduction in ice caps a bad thing regardless of the cause or solution?
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    Musing about work

    I wasn't aware the US has no vacation time in its laws, it is perfectly legal for a company to offer zero annual leave and even public holidays can be unpaid. It is estimated 23% of companies don't offer annual leave. From what I could see they are the only country in the world to allow this. What does it say when Afghanistan has more care for workers rights? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minimum_annual_leave_by_country As to work hours, I'm in the opposite boat. My workload sits at 110%, so every day I have to decide what I ignore, what gets handled and what doesn't. Hopefully once the big project clears I can get the time back to work on my to-do list. Its sitting at ~2 pages of stuff I haven't gotten to. Working less days or less hours would not work for me but I do refuse to work longer hours or afterhours as that destroys your home life. Its up to the business to correctly resource for the workload, not for me to work myself to death so they can save an extra salary.
  6. God not only punishes you for the original sin, which wasn't your fault, but is constantly cursing innocent people for others crimes: https://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/iniquity.html Thats a just and merciful god right there.
  7. I hadn't come across this before but there seems to be a fair number of people who hate Paul. One commentator said: "Jesus was circumcised, Paul rejected circumcision..The OT Laws commands the circumcision on the eighth day. The reason why Christians are not circumcised is because they follow paul. They have broken the covenant of Circumcision according to Jesus himself (5:19), (Genesis 17:14) (Genesis 21:4) , (Luke 2:21) (Acts 15:1) ,, while paul changed this at (Galatians 5:6) Jesus taught Salvation comes through Faith and Works, paul distorted it and invented that it come by faith only...while Jesus WAS VERY CLEAR and taught that salvation is attained by keeping the commandments, physical prayer, fasting, and observing the Law of Moses.(Mat 17:21) (Mark 9:29) Paul neglected these commands (Ephesians 2:8-9) and distorted the Path to Salvation preached by Jesus. Jesus and all the Bible prophets taught that Physical Prayer is commanded..(Genesis 17:3) (Joshua 5:14) (Daniel 9:3) (Matthew 26:39) while the false apostle paul rejected these laws, he disobeyed the physical prayer to God.and He distorted the prayer and directed it towards His Prophet, Jesus (Philemon 2:10) .. and more and more of his lies against God of the Bible and Jesus Jesus said "DO NOT CALL ANYONE ON EARTH YOUR FATHER; for ONE IS YOUR FATHER, HE who is in heaven"(Matthew 23:9) which is 100% true,,but the deceiver paul said "For I BECAME YOUR FATHER"(1 Corinthians 4:15) .. for God sake,,how it can be clearer ! no one ever can follow God and Jesus and in same time follow paul and satan teaching ,,as both are totally the opposite. " I'd never heard of this idea but there were quite a few commentors agreeing or adding to the issues they had. Has anyone seen this before? Is it common?
  8. I saw a Christian say the generation that Jesus spoke of starts with the rebirth of Israel, so 1948. How did he get there? Take a large shoe horn and ram it till it fits. To my mind if your doomsday doesn't get its own movie it really wasn't hyped enough. Y2K really set the standard for apocalypses with 2012 a close second. I think the trick is to get passed the rapture and include other reasons to pad out your theory. Stick a super volcano, planetary alignment, or ancient calendar in the mix and you'll really get things jumping. Y2K had the genius idea that every chip would die, even those with no date function cos reasons. Let your imagination run wild with what happens and you get a $200 million Hollywood budget to tell your story.
  9. Now I don't believe any of this but I thought it was interesting. One sect in India believe Jesus survived and travelled there were he preached for the rest of his life. They have a tomb which they say has his remains (but of course no one is allowed access so it can't be examined). http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/8587838.stm. Their claims state Jesus wasn't up long enough to die from exposure. The story says the guys on either side had their legs broken but Jesus didn't. That being stabbed in the side was only to test if he reacted to pain, but the fact blood flowed shows his heart was still beating. Also they say the risen Jesus had holes in his hands and feet, a spirit wouldn't show wounds so it points to a living person. They had to flee or the Romans would have finished the job, and they needed a story for the people who saw him... I don't believe any of this but its an example of how easy it is to read the passages and get completely different answers. In this case it also shows a natural explanation for a claimed supernatural event.
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    DC movies

    I haven't seen Venom but have seen the bad reviews, what did you dislike about it?
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    DC movies

    Recently I've been working my way through the DC movies. I had heard a lot of negative comments but thought as a comic book fan I might be more of the target audience. Have to say it was a mixed bag but none really wowed me. Batman vs Superman - long drawn out story with very little actually happening. The conflict they tried to build felt very forced and while I liked the cast (wasn't sure if I'd like Ben Afleck as Batman but thought he was good) the story was lame. 4/10, wouldn't recommend it. Justice League - good effects, couple of funny moments when superman and flash compare speed, rubbish story, superman carries a building which just left me thinking wtf. Watchable but not great 6/10, recommended if its on for free. Suicide Squad - a few funny moments especially Harley Quinn's crazy comments, no idea why Harley Quinn is included in a fighting force when she has no skills or powers. Long movie for not a lot of action, some good effects but another bad story. Dull with the odd laugh 5/10 Aquaman - Jason Mamoa is perfect for the role, effects are great, lots of action including some great fight scenes, a few strange things occur like aquaman using a sub to get around when he could swim ten times faster, or finding a lost world of dinosaurs inside the hollow earth but certainly the best DC movie and well worth a watch if you are a fan of the character, genre or action movies. 7/10. I would say I now understand the negative comments a lot better, but would say many take their hatred of the movies too far. None of them were bad enough to make me rage but certainly none good enough that I'd go back for a second round. I remain firmly a Marvel fan boy.
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    Bad atheists ruining good atheists' lives

    Unfortunately those ideas are taught and reinforced on a regular basis. There is not likely anything that will help them see the majority of atheists are just normal people like them. You can say "there are over a billion atheists in the world and in any group that large you will find all variations of humanity. Smart and stupid, rich and poor, hateful and loving. No two members of the group will be the same" but in many cases you would just be spitting into the wind. Probably best to keep your head down and work towards getting your own place asap.
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    On the subject of Hell and Salvation.

    But then is it a case of believing in a creator is all it takes or do you have to believe in Christ specifically? "No one meets daddy, except via me", if so then while you can know god from nature, you won't know Christ. If its a case of they are one and the same then the NT is irrelevant. I've seen one Christian agree that god is just and merciful, agree that because of that He wouldn't punish the ignorant as that wouldn't be just. So when asked why teach the bible at all, he said the old line "people will choose to worship god or not. He won't cast them into hell, they would choose that for themselves". Can you imagine a court doing that? "Mr Johnson, you've been found guilty of murder. You now have the hard decision of whether you want to go to prison for the next 20 years, or I can hand you this wad of cash, give you the keys to the ferrari parked downstairs and set you up in a mansion, rent free, for the rest of your life. I'll give you a minute to think it over... "
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    I found, with the bigger mega-church type facilities, that you still failed to get that socialisation. You turn up as if it were a concert, find your seat and watch the show. Upon finishing everyone jumps in their cars and heads home. Simply too many people to get interaction, that came more from the other clubs, events and activities advertised through the church. It still always came down to the individuals making the choice to engage in post-church gatherings. Those choices are available regardless of the church, but much less in your face and therefore require people to reach out on their own. For youth, most socialisation should come via school and after school activities. Parents need to give a damn, and that is something you can never force. With my 4 year old we take her to dance class or gymnastics, and talk to other parents from her kindy to arrange weekend play dates. It would be so easy to stick her in front of the TV all weekend so I'm free to do whatever I want, but putting her development first matters more than my thoughts of being lazy. Kids learn from their parents so lazy parents make lazy kids, angry/violent parents make angry kids and uninvolved/disinterested parents make disinterested kids. I think schools should push their activities both to kids and parents, and make sure they have options for all types of people. Sports, esports, dancing, singing, music, debate teams, etc. The kids should be excited and be expected to pick one choice, and taking lists home to their parents with any times, costs and descriptions clearly outlined. As parents we should be approaching the school to volunteer our time to help make this happen. I would love to see esports at school done well, but probably the cost of PCs would be prohibitive. But you could mix in fitness, hand-eye coordination activities, PC hardware and software knowledge, PC and gaming history and a range of games to hold their interest in the related learning. Certainly something I will look into more once my kids are school age.
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