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About Wertbag

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  • Birthday 02/21/1977

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    Married father of 2 from New Zealand

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  1. Our company runs a helpdesk for a large corporate client. Our helpdesk has dropped every SLA, terrible customer reviews and stats that are a disaster. Our client went to market to consider dropping us, found it would cost tens of thousands with no guarantees that it would be better, so we got the contract extended. Money over quality for the win.
  2. All things dull and ugly - Monty Python: All things dull and ugly, All creatures short and squat, All things rude and nasty, The Lord God made the lot. Each little snake that poisons, Each little wasp that stings, He made their brutish venom. He made their horrid wings. All things sick and cancerous, All evil great and small, All things foul and dangerous, The Lord God made them all. Each nasty little hornet, Each beastly little squid Who made the spikey urchin? Who made the sharks? He did! All things scabbed and ulcerous, All pox both great and small, Putrid, foul and gangrenous, The Lord God made them all. I'm trying to remember if I've ever heard a reason for the nasty creatures, from parasites to giant carnivores, that god created... There does seem to be some people who say god made everything good, then original sin corrupted everything. That just gives me a mental image of Eve biting the apple and a blast of black magic shoots out, engulfing the teddy bears and causing them to sprout fangs and claws, and I guess a whole digestive system to go along with it. Even worse for young earth creationists who have to say the T-rex was using his massive jaws to brutalise cabbages, then overnight began mauling zebras. Is there any apologetics that cover this? Any way to make it fit with a loving god?
  3. The 50% divorce rate is a hotly debated topic. That number was reached back in the 70s by looking at the risk factors, multiply by the percentage of population getting married and dump every group of people into the one big bucket. What is seen is poor people, mixed smokers, mix religions, unexpected children before marriage, young marriages, multiple marriages etc all increase your chances, but for most white middle class families the divorce rate is half that. The current generation has a good attitude and are marrying later with more success. Millennials have a 18% drop in divorce compared to the previous generation. Each year in the US there are 2.4m marriages and 800k divorces (~30%), leading to the highest total number of marriages ever (60m total married couples).
  4. Hollywood movies that are so ridiculous that the audience groans in unison. I just went to fast n Furious (I won tickets, wouldn't have bothered otherwise), and every single scene was so stupid; need to find a scientist in hiding? Don't worry we photographed him buying a newspaper in broad daylight on main street. The bad guys have guns with a user ID chip so people can't use their guns, except the activation chip is in the gloves so anyone can steal them, then it turns out the guns are on wifi so a girl on a laptop can switch off all weapons at will. A girl has a super virus in her, if time runs out she will die and infect the whole planet. How? Err, well its airborne so it will travel. So containment of the supervirus could be achieved by closing the window. We need to extract the virus from her within 24hrs, okay let's fly Moscow to Samoa which should take 19hrs of flying let alone the time to get a plane ready. Why Samoa? Well the Rock's brother, who he hasn't seen in 25 years is a motor mechanic, so obviously the perfect person to fix the advanced nano-tech sci-fi extraction unit. Well at least she can hide away while the extraction unit works? Nope, she will wear it like a backpack and be kept at the front lines because we need the bad guys to kidnap her again. The movie had some laughs and some big explosion, but I regret seeing it, even for free.
  5. I'm scared of death because I love life and don't want it to end. I'm also scared of missing out on seeing my kids grow up. I don't think there is anything after I go, which is sad but something which I have no control over... Unless my dream of having my brain implanted into a robot comes true. Meeting god: "Dude, grab a beer and pull up a chair, this is gonna take awhile..."
  6. Do you release she-bears on them? I've heard that is the just and righteous punishment for name calling...
  7. Psalms 14 "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good." There have been several good discussions I was having that suddenly got derailed by this statement. Almost a get out of jail free card, if they get caught out, rather than face the issue they can say "You are a fool, nothing you say is of value, I shouldn't even be talking to you" and an otherwise productive conversation is killed.
  8. Surely we see plenty of ways to work the two together. Often it is said that science looks at the tools god used to create the universe, so if you start with that mentality then evolution, abiogenesis and the big bang are all perfectly in line with religious beliefs and the majority of Christians have no problems with them. It is a mire of issues for guys like Hovind and Ham, who try to overturn the basic scientific understanding of our world, but no one should be confused into thinking those guys ever use science to come to their conclusions. There are some rare examples of scientists who believe some of the more ridiculous fundy ideas like a young earth, but those guys are few and far between.
  9. I always thought the theology was basically god exists but humans have got it all wrong. The bible is humans guessing but they haven't got it right. Might be just me giving them the benefit of the doubt, probably filling in the gaps to make it work in my mind.
  10. The thing I found helped the most with depression was to keep my mind active. Negative thoughts only surface when you sit and dwell on them, but a busy brain doesn't have the time to focus on anything thats not right in front of it. Find things that you love (or new things to try), anything will do from sports, hobbies, games or fitness. I took up martial arts, learnt a language, wrote a book, joined a gym and I've always been an avid gamer. Find your joy and embrace life.
  11. My wife and I were searching for a TV series that we could both enjoy and came across Lucifer on Netflix. For those who haven't seen it basically its a crime/comedy blend where Lucifer escapes from hell (how has not been said) and ends up rich and living in LA. He meets a homicide detective and starts assisting solving crimes for the fun of it. Their version of Lucifer is a self centred, egotistical, sin loving playboy, but he is not evil. He is described as the warden of hell rather than a psycho. I find the anti-hero character and especially his hot demon sidekick really funny. His demon friend is psychotic, loyal to her friends but enjoys fighting and pain. She started as Lucifers bodyguard and later switched to bounty hunting because she enjoys hunting humans. Sometimes the story is poorly written, but rarely enough not to put me off and any show that makes me laugh can get away with a bit of silliness. One example was when the detective was trying to locate Lucifer and she says "it was easy I just used the location services on your dating app" or the guy who was shot in the stomach, they dug the bullet out and stitched the skin closed so he didn't need to go to hospital. In the last episode I watched, a lawyer went to hell when her only crime was knowingly help guilty people get off. This seemed quite ridiculous as she did everything within the law and used technicalities when available. She didn't commit any crimes and doing your job well shouldn't be a problem. They kind of briefly addressed it saying it was your own guilt that would send you to hell, and hinted that once you forgave yourself there would be nothing to torture yourself with. My first thought was of a psychopathic serial killer with no empathy. He wouldn't feel guilt, so by that ruling he could go straight to heaven... Their version of god is a divine energy that doesn't communicate, even with the angels. They sometimes get visions or hints but nothing firm. This lead to some interesting debates between angels where their interpretation of the signs came to different conclusions. I've heard Christians say it is wrong and evil because it puts Lucifer and even his demon friend in a good light. I like that I can just enjoy it cos it ain't the reals.
  12. I thought the basis of the question was why Paul would do what is claimed? At least that was the question I was replying to. Fame, money or a true believer missionary are the obvious choices. Was there a different question that was your main concern?
  13. Reminds me of the old joke "How can you tell when Kent Hovind is lying? His lips are moving"
  14. Why would Paul say the things he did? Money, fame or true belief are all possible. By claiming belief he had an all expenses paid life, no more hard labour to make ends meet. No way to know if that was his motivation, but it certainly can be seen in modern day preachers. For comparison you can look to other modern fast growing religions such as Mormonism or Scientology. They both started from a single persons crazy ideas and in just over a century have grown to have millions of followers. We can plot the growth, we can see people easily converted to any of these ideas and we can see the craziest cults able to recruit people. The spread of Christianity is not unique and missionary work can be very successful.
  15. I always thought that statement was contradictory from Christians. "You believe something came from nothing. That's ridiculous!" "Oh? What do you believe?" "There was nothing and it turned into something cos god did it!" Or the same idea for first life: "You believe life came from non-life, that's ridiculous!" and yet they believe Adam came from dirt...
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