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How about Eminem? Where's he fit in all this? :HaHa:

 

"No I'm not the first king of controversy

I am the worst thing since Elvis Presley

to do black music so selfishly

and used it to get myself wealthy

(Hey!!) There's a concept that works

Twenty million other white rappers emerge

But no matter how many fish in the sea

It'll be so empty, without me"

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Guest Shiva H. Vishnu

Actaully, that show had days where the white family would not put on their makeup, and they walked into the sector of town where the Nation of Islam and back to Africa movement folks hang out, and yeah... it got really tense, especially towards the black family that was walking with them! More pointed stares, more direct body language threats were given to the black guy that escorted them than to the white lady and guy.

 

And I lived in a 90% black area for two years... so I used a lot of businesses in that area of town. I got odd stares sometimes, but no odder than the stares I get from white people who don't mind their own business. :HaHa: Most of the time, I just got hit on and my ass slapped. ;)

 

 

Hey Pandy, I'm not sure what you're trying to say, but if you were in a predominantly white part of town and you regularly got your ass slapped, would that not be fodder for a femenist rant? Just asking.

 

How about Eminem? Where's he fit in all this? :HaHa:

 

"No I'm not the first king of controversy

I am the worst thing since Elvis Presley

to do black music so selfishly

and used it to get myself wealthy

(Hey!!) There's a concept that works

Twenty million other white rappers emerge

But no matter how many fish in the sea

It'll be so empty, without me"

 

 

Um, of all the things he's said to offend, his admission that he is capitolising on the popularity of black music, to me, seems like a nonissue. He isn't trying to hide it.

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Which white slurs do you prefer?

 

Afro-Saxon - (North America) Young white men who act black.

Americunt / A Merry Cunt - (UK) an American tourist.

As dry as a pommy's towel - (Australia) very dry. Pommy=Englishman. From the perception that Englishmen do not bathe very often at all.

Bogan- (AUS/NZ) lower class white person. Some parts of Australia use equivalent terms such as Westie/Westy (Auckland and Sydney — as many live in the city's western suburbs), Bevan (Queensland), Booner (Canberra) and Chigger (Tasmania); also, (CAN) an aboriginal. From Bogan Shire in western New South Wales.

Bög- (Finland) Swedish males (actually Swedish for a homosexual male), because Finns widely perceive Swedish males as effeminate, see also "Bøsser".

Bøsser- (Denmark & Norway) term for Swedish men - literally a term for a homosexual males, but also applied to heterosexual Swedes because they are perceived as weak and ineffectual. See also "bög".

Cake eaters - (U.S.) WASPs or other affluent whites, plays on the stereotype of the idle rich class

Caker - (Italian Canadians) a non-Mediterranean white Canadian; short for "mangia cake" or cake eater

Casper - (U.S. Blacks) a white person (sometimes used as "Casper, the unfriendly ghost")

Cave Bitch - (U.S. Blacks) white women - from an Ice Cube song about white women

Chav - (UK) a low-income common white with a penchant for bling fashion accessories. Before the phrase became famous, it was used loosely within employees of local authorities, such as the Job Centre and Social Security Office as an acronym for "Council House And Violent"

Coal Burner - (U.S.) a white woman who has sex with black men

Egg (CAN) a white person who "acts" like an Asian (white on the outside, yellow on the inside)

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_slurs

 

That's just the start.

I don't consider any of these slurs as truly offensive, it is people who say them that are truly offensive.

Same goes for these other kind of slurs, the words by themselves does nothing but the people who utter them in meaness are truly offensive.

"shoot" are just a series of letters put together but it is associated with bullets coming out of barrels, clean swearing and bad 50s family sitcoms. :grin:

 

The slurs are just words used to fuel racist sentiments. If "nigger" wasn't used as a slur by these hateful people, it would either die out or adopt a different meaning.

Instead "nigger" never died out because of these racists.

That is unfortunate.

This word could have been used for better things, a meaning of ordinariness instead of racism, hate, deaths and fear.

Instead, it turned into a scary word.

 

I'm against all form of hate.

I'm against racism.

I'm against misgynism and antimachoism

I'm against anti disabled people.

 

Yet I don't bury my head in the sand. I don't scream "Mummy!" if I see a slur.

"Cracker" by itself does nothing to me.

It's the person who say it in hate that are not worthy to know.

I am against people who are hateful, murderous and use words in a hateful way.

 

In fact, I think the world's better off without these hateful scums and their epithets.

Love not hate. :woohoo:

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I guess no body has a reply to my post oh well.

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I guess no body has a reply to my post oh well.

 

 

What sort of response did you expect, willy?

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Fiddy got himself out of the ghetto by capitolising on the white fascination with the gangsta culture.

 

True enough. Fiddy is that last black man who should be angry about anything, given his enormous success. It's just whenever I think of an angry black man, I visualize 50 Cent. Much better example abound, I admit. I should probably visualize a homeless man. There's someone who's got planty to be angry about.

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I've been called a kike before, when I'm clearly not Jewish in either religious doctrine or ethnicity. Due to the pallor of my skin, I've also been referred to as a vampire... which just makes me laugh. I've also been referred to as a "spicy meatball", due to my Italian heritage.

 

*clicks link in Onxy's post and starts scrolling*

 

"Spaghetti-Bender" (Italians)? "Piney" (NJ white trash)? "Jersey Devil" (NJ resident)? LOL!

 

I'm most definitely a "mutt" though, because I'm actually of several nationalities. And "Eye-talian" is actually kinda cute. ^_^

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in all honesty now, if it had been the other way around wouldnt people be raising hell?

I can just imagine all the white people in the theatre giggling at that part. Why is it "cute" when its making fun of whites, but "racist" when its making fun of blacks? :shrug:

 

Because white people aren't uptight and angry all the time.

 

:HaHa:

 

Pretty much. Most Whites pulled the baseball bat out of their asses a long time ago.

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Hey Pandy, I'm not sure what you're trying to say, but if you were in a predominantly white part of town and you regularly got your ass slapped, would that not be fodder for a femenist rant? Just asking.

 

Um, no... not really... I'm not the type to rant about feminism unless it's about how women are portrayed in the media. :shrug: You have me pinned wrong.

 

You were wondering if that show would even dare to send the white people into a black area and see how blacks might react, correct? It seemed that you thought that it wouldn't be done because it would show racism against whites, as well. I was just pointing out that the show did do that, and I described the scene, and I put in a little of my own personal experience to show that things might not go down like you suspected. I found that my uneasiness was due to my own fears and insecurities, not due to a real threat, and once I was comfortable, I found that others treated me like anyone would.... those who don't mind their own business stared, the men tried to get some... no diffrerent than any other setting.

 

 

Um, of all the things he's said to offend, his admission that he is capitolising on the popularity of black music, to me, seems like a nonissue. He isn't trying to hide it.

 

I didn't say Eminem was offensive or an issue, I just thought it was an ironic and funny thing to point out... hence the smiley face. :Doh:

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I don't know I did some research on the net and understand it better.

Blacks probally use it because of rap music and stuff cause it makes it look cool.

But if a white person uses the word even that way it looks offensive cause of the past.

I think the word needs to leave everyones vocabulary really.

What next? white rappers who influence white people to call each other crackers?

 

 

 

 

I guess no body has a reply to my post oh well.

 

 

What sort of response did you expect, willy?

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I'm a typical American mutt, bloodlines and ethnicities mixed like a DNA blender attacking a bloodbank..

 

Happens I'm tall, large, greeneyed and obviously a whiteboy...

 

What happens with what comes out of my mouth is my responsibility.

The things my hands do is my choice.

Actions done by me and mine are the results of how I taught them to think.

I am responsible for how I react to the world and its situations given.

 

Is interesting, how others will act and react in their world to me.

If left alone, or not bothered, I'll go along my happyassed business and not give a damn. When provoked or challenged, left no other venue, then this peaceful sloth of man can and does get excited...

 

How I respond is always predicated by those doing what they choose to do. Going about minding my business is my choice.

 

Remember that first impressions are usually correct ones.

If someone in a do-rag, pants draggin', car stero thumping, blunt on lips, MJ themed t-shirt, hat on bassackards or sideways looking cat of any color or stripe comes close to me unbidden, I go into 'defence mode' long before he is close enough to touch me or mine..

 

His choice(s) on how he lives his life indeed. In his enviroment he may be one cool cat. In my world, he is a target.

 

k, mean_old_man, L

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:HaHa:

 

Oh you people who live in warm places!

 

:HaHa:

 

When summer is only 3 months long, it's kind of hard to waste your time fussing that someone is walking around wearing the wrong "colors".

 

And the punk who calls you a 'cracker-cunt' in Autumn may well be same guy who takes the time to help push your car out of a snow berm in late November.

 

The last "racial" incident I can think of here, was a pack of doofuses driving around late at night shooting people on the streets with frozen paintballs. Really, they were shooting anyone they could....but because one high IQ passenger was recording the "fun" on his videocamera, when the tape was released, it was noted by someone that they seemed to be targeting the Native peoples. So there was a minor hoopla.

 

When in truth, at that time of night most of their targets were going to be homeless people. A high percentage of which, do happen to be Native peoples....OR people who appear Native as a result of being outside in the cold all the damn time (all of them look a bit leathery).

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There is a really excellent book written by Steve Barnes called "Lion's Blood." Here is the synopsis:

 

1864, The Old South. A world of masters and slaves, with one important difference: in this world, "America" was colonized by Africa, not Europe.

 

Kai is a young African noble meeting the challenges of power and faith. Aiden is an Irish slave obsessed with freedom. Their fates intertwine in a world torn by passion and conflict, the world of Lion's Blood.

 

I also very highly recommend Heather Alexander's "Inshallah" the music based on Lion's Blood. Heather Alexander

 

Both a very facinating look at "What if...?"

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Oh, I dunno. I think you're all missing a critical component - SOCIAL STATUS.

 

It's not about race, per se, but where you find yourself on the social ladder that often determines how offensive a slur can be.

 

Comedian Carlos Mencia pointed this out for me. He said that if he were called a "wet back" or something, and he woke up everyday having to cut people's grass, THEN he'd be offended. However, since he's rich and famous, he doesn't give a shit.

 

Racist says: "You're a Spic!"

 

Carlos replies: "You forgot RICH!!!"

 

Imagine it: You're black and have money to burn. You buy an entire city block and build your castle there. But people still treat you as someone to be feared and even call you nigger. Do you REALLY give a damn? Especially when you can buy and sell their ass a thousand times over?

 

But when you're dirt poor, the nigger slur hurts.

 

People on TOP of the trash heap have less to be angry and insecure about, while people on the bottom are understandably sensitive. And historically speaking, white people are routinely on top, so they aren't PREDISPOSED to inferiority, while minorities are. That's why slurs hurt the "have-nots" more than the "haves". It's like adding insult to injury.

 

Just MHO.

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Personally, I wish that everyone would act like there was only one race...human. Not likely to happen soon, I'm afraid.

 

"Honkey" enjoyed popularity in the seventies, particularly in blacksploitation films. But I don't even know what the fuck it means. Does it mean whites have cars with horns? Does it mean we're like geese, which are sometimes white? I don't get it, so it's hard to take offense.

 

"Cracker" seemed slightly offensive (I don't know why) when I thought it referred to an actual cracker that you might enjoy with wine and cheese. But then I found out that it was short for "whip-cracker", and while I don't like being compared to a slave driver, I am quite sure that that isn't what a black man means when he calls me that. It makes no sense to me, and so it still doesn't seem so offensive.

I always wondered about "honkey". Could it be derived from "honkey-tonk"? You know, that roadhouse down the county lane where the lower-class whites go to get drunk and listen to Hank Williams, Toby Keith, and similar singers of countrified tunes. I never knew what "cracker" meant; your definition makes sense, as by "whip-cracker" or "slave driver" it would refer to an overseer hired by the slave owner to supervise his "property". The overseer would, of course, be a lower social class than the slave owner, and much hated by the slaves.

 

Any of your read "Gone With the Wind"? Remember how Scarlett and some of the other white people looked down on "white trash"? I think there is prejudice among people towards members of their own race; some of which is racial (Northern European descendants not liking Southern or Eastern Europeans) and some which is class based ("white trash" is often synonymous with "trailer trash" meaning low class). I believe this happens in the black community too (correct me if I'm wrong?!), but between those of mixed B/W background and those perceived as pure black (yet many Afro-Americans have some white relatives in their past, or so I've heard. No doubt, there are some white people out there who would be very surprised also if they traced their family tree!). In the Caribbean, especially, the difference is pronounced because the mixed race blacks are often the "elite" and rule over a darker populace (think Haiti).

 

Lots of food for thought.

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for example:

 

I watched "Date Movie" last night.

The black guy says "you gotta put aside your insecurities ...it will all work out."

The white girl says "do you really believe that?"

The black guy says "no, but my white customers do."

I don't get it.

 

:shrug:

 

 

I get it. It's a reference to the fact that america seems to be set up for the success of whites, so the tribulations of life must have a lesser affct on them. They must all have a wealthy grandma waiting to die so they can live high on the hog, or whatever. It isn't entirely unture.

I think it might also refer to all the positive, success-is-for-you, build-your-self-esteem, new-agey type thinking; its believers are mostly middle-class white people, who already largely have it made (as long as they don't blow grandma's gift right away) but want to ensure that they "have the power" to hang onto it. Thus, the magical thinking syndrome. It seems like when black people fall for this way of thinking, they tend to go for the "name-it-and-claim-it" gospel instead of some guru from Unity or Religious Science.

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I was once jokingly called "neon white" because I aadmitted I didn't know about this one rapper.

It struck me as funny, since I am a mix of Hispanic (Native Salvadorean, Spain, Poturgese and Italian) / Middle Eastern (Iranian). To make a long story short, I have a spanish last name and I look white.

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Fact: racism against whites counts as racism.

 

I was watching this thing on MTV, "TV's Illest Minority Moments". They were talking about how sometimes on Miami Vice, Tubbs sounds like he's saying "Cracker" instead of "Crockett" and some guy's saying, "Oh man, if he's saying Cracker, that's great, I love it." Oh, so it's cool to call someone a cracker, and something to be loved, but I can't do the same to you because by being born white I have to carry around some kind of Catholic guilt about it? Then some cartoony VH1 segment-opener shows up with the world "whitey", as in "whiteys are always da man" (something along those lines - it's not a direct quote because I can't remember the exact words). Why it is acceptable to say "whitey", but not "brownie" or "blackie"? Why is it acceptable to be hateful to whites but not to others? This is a great thing to teach the VH1 demographic.

 

Oh, right, because all whites are rich and all whites manipulate and work to the bone people of other races for their own greedy benefit. Oh, wait a minute - doesn't that sound a bit prejudiced? Maybe there are some white people out there who are honest and are just out to make a living like everybody else.

 

I've had racism against me in my lifetime. I remember how I would get friendly with black girls at my school growing up, but I was never allowed to sit at their lunch tables or sit next to them on the bus - their friends wouldn't allow it because I was white and wasn't one of them. (Of course, that's MY fault, right? For belonging to such a terrible, threatening race - I probably scared them, of course.) I remember going into a pancake place once, up in North County. It was a very nice community that was building some new developments and my parents were thinking about buying one of their houses. When we got breakfast we immediately decided not to. It was a black community and even the waitress let us know right away that we were not welcome there. She went out of her way to treat us like coddled babies, talked to us like four-year-olds, and was so sarcastically sweet that we could see right through her, and so could everybody else in the restaurant - only they thought it was funny. They spent the entire time watching us and laughing at our every move. If we spoke to each other we would hear the people next to us repeat it to each other and laugh hysterically about it.

 

White people have nerves, too, and they can also feel pain.

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I'm white and I blast rap out of my car w/ a 250W subwoofer. I'm not sure what that says about me exactly. I do enjoy cranking up a good hip-hop or rap beat and then singing along just to watch my white friends' expressions.

 

Not too long ago I went off on some neighbors because I got tired of hearing ethnic slurs/jokes, mainly from the neighbors from New Hampshire and their friends who were visiting them here in Texas. Shortly after that, one neighbor actually attempted to defend the jokes by claiming that they didn't think I would be offended because, after all, I do listen to rap where they are always using the N word. It still pisses me off to this day that this idiot even attempted to use such a stupid argument.

 

It is a bit difficult for me to sing along to rap though. Even if the song was playing in the background, if a black man heard me singing along to "If you want it you can get it let me know. I'm 'bout to fuck a nigga up, let's go!" he might not take too kindly to it. I guess it's just part of the curse of being a black man in a white man's body.

 

(yes, this is humor)

 

I have found one very interesting experiment to try to test your own prejudices. The next time you are discussing an African-American with another non-black person try not making any references to his skin color. It will typically go something like this:

 

"You know Aaron, right?"

"um, I don't think so"

"Has a wife, 2 kids - boy and girl, owns the food distribution company?"

"I'm not sure, what does he look like?"

"Oh, nice looking guy, six foot, curly hair"

"Oh, the black guy?"

 

Like I said, interesting. Now if the person being discussed happens to be the only African-American in the group (department, church, etc.) then it's not necessarily racist or prejudiced, but it's still an interesting exercise, IMHO.

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I'm not sure this counts as a white racial slur, but it is an amusing memory: Once, several years ago, I was walking in downtown Washington, D.C. with my walkman turned on (yes, this was long before the days of IPods) so I didn't hear the old black homeless guy who asked for a donation. But, as I passed him, I did hear him shout in a loud angry voice, "There she goes, Miss Jayne Mansfield, with her diamond ear rings."

 

Well, it was a long time ago - but not that long, seeing as how Miss Jayne Mansfield had been dead for about 20 years at the time. I am tall and blonde, but hardly in the Hollywood actress style. And, the ear rings were actually plastic. But, hey, thanks for the compliment!

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"Honkey" enjoyed popularity in the seventies, particularly in blacksploitation films. But I don't even know what the fuck it means. Does it mean whites have cars with horns? Does it mean we're like geese, which are sometimes white? I don't get it, so it's hard to take offense.

 

Word Origins - H

 

Honky/Hunky/Hunyak/Honyock

Honky, an African American slang term for a white person, dates to at least 1946. The origin is not quite certain, but it is most likely a dialectical variation on the older term hunky or hunk. This latter terms date to 1909 and 1896 respectively and are probably from Hungarian. Unlike honky, the latter terms are usually used to denote people of Slavic or Central European ancestry and are not primarily used by African Americans.

 

Also related are hunyak or honyock, which date to c.1907 and are probably compounds of Hun[garian] + [Pol]ack.

 

All the terms are used contemptuously.

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Fact: racism against whites counts as racism.

 

You said it. People think it's cute because Whites traditionally held the reins of power for so long in America, and many of them were oppressive towards other races. Lots of uptight people get it in their heads that, therefore, only Whites can be racist, White culture is inherently evil and hence is irrelevant (and even evil to enjoy or try to preserve or cultivate), and White folks are usually bad people when it comes to race relations. It's all the usual whiny victimization mentality.

 

I had racism all my life, too. From living right next to the inner city and having to deal with gangs (or wannabe gangbangers, most often) to being smeared as a neo-Nazi in high school just because I shaved my head and didn't like rap music, I've heard it all, too. Funny, the treatment in high school was what got me so very fascinated in the White Supremacist movement, and had I not had to deal with whiny bullshit, I may have avoided the movement altogether.

 

But their socially-approved racism only fueled my own hatreds. Those who behaved as they did only helped encourage me to embrace what they accused me of. Funny that - so many White racists are created because of the treatment they get from non-Whites, all socially approved and sanctioned. And coming from someone who had more than a few ties in the movement once upon a time, I can vouch that that phenomenon is more prevalent than most regular folks would like to believe.

 

If you want to see why race relations are so bad in America, look no farther than the people who bitch and whine and point fingers the most about racism to begin with :loser:

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This is interesting, because I come from a mixed background. Both of my parents are half white and half black. So I guess, technically, I am biracial, even though I consider myself as "black"(mainly because that is how people percieve me). Not to mention the fact that I was raised up in a predominantly African American area...

 

I guess I was raised up sort of "ignorant," because my parents never made "race" an issue for me. True, I grew up being taught about African American history, but being "Black," persay, was not a huge grandiose thing for me. My dad was a mover and shaker. All he cared about was makin money. So whoever he had to use to get to the top he used them, regardless of their color.

 

I went to a multicultural school district my entire life and all of my best friends were either white or Asian, due to the fact that I was into the samethings that they were....I read comic books, was into Star Wars, and etc, etc, el. I had black friends too BUT they were exactly like I was...haha, sort of nerds. Really, the only racists in the schools were the white power kids. And everyone hated them because they routinely spray painted racial slurs and swastikas in the stair wells, and incited race riots. Some of the black kids were just as racist, which I didn't get at the time. But when you are a outsider, like I was, you took your friends anyway you could get them.

 

Overall, I think it was much different for me because race was never an issue. The whole gay thing was, and I got picked on and harassed by black guys and white guys because of my rather ambiguous sexuality. And kids of all races made my life a living hell. Race had nothing to do with it. If anything I should be heterophobic and hate all straight men.

 

I basically was one of the kids on the social fringes. When you are one of those race doesn't apply. You are all outcast and you form a bond with each other. Only thing that kept me alive in H.S.

 

I still don't worry alot about race UNLESS someone brings it up. I even avoid the conversation altogether; but it is ALWAYS white people who want to talk to ME about race. I don't know if I give off this easy to approach energy or something, but everytime I am around white people I always get these inevitable race questions. It feels awkward because that is the last thing I want to talk about ESPECIALLY around white people because I don't care...

For some reason they feel comfortable around me. Everyone says it is because of my lighter complexion and diminutive build(5'8 on a good day). I look really boyish and non threatning...According to others.

 

However, I don't escape it. Like once I went into a bookstore and just stood around looking at the magazines. Everytime I moved one of the store clerks was shadowing. He never said hello or asked me if I needed help. He just kept following me around the store. It really pissed me off. There were a million other kids in there who could have cleaned the place out, but he stayed on me the entire time.

So I grabbed a book and went to the front counter. I asked for the manager and told her, "Hi, I was going to buy this book, and I do have the money to pay for it, but I'm not going to buy it because your retarded employee acted as if I was going to lift everything that wasn't nailed down..." To which I pointed at him in front of everybody. And his face turned all red. I wanted to laugh but I stayed serious.

The manager started apologizing to me and everything, but I told her thanks but no thanks. I won't be shopping in this store anymore if he's working here.

But she insisted, and she offered me a discount on the book. So I just took her up on it. I really just wanted to humiliate him like he did me.

 

I know there is racism in society(as evidenced by posts in this thread); however, I choose to educate myself about it, and be aware. But I don't choose to let it run my life.

 

I have read several posts in here that state that "White people aren't angry all the time" and that black people somehow are.

Now erroneous overgeneralizations like that piss me off. Simply by virtue of my background I get pigeonholed as "angry" and "pissed off." That is what I hate about "Hip Hop culture." It is mass marketed primarily by mainstream media with all these images of pimps, sluts, and thugs, and people choose to believe it simply because some black teenagers adopt the style.

Forget the rest of us who are average everyday normal people that are the complete and utter antithesis of that stereotype. We are forced into that mold just because we share the same heritage.

 

I hate the word NIGGER(and WIGGER), and I never, ever, NEVER let it leave my lips. I know the history of it and I know the power behind. True, it is just a word. But the spoken word is just as powerful as an angry fist. And I won't even listen to it when someone else black says it. I just think it is incredibly ignorant and disrespectful to our ancestors who were, unduly, branded with that bastardization of an English term...

 

Anyway...

 

That is why I choose to not get in a tizzy about racism, because the people who make excuses for someone "making them racist" were racist to begin with. The seed was already planted. It just needed water and sunlight.

 

As young African American guy who happens to be gay I have several obstacles that I have to cope with, and I choose not to be mired down in bitterness because I would just miss out on my life.

 

P.S.

 

No offense when I ask this question, but I have seen it in this thread a few times...And I will never get it...

 

Why is it that white people call themselves "mutts" and "Mixed?" I know people who say that they are: Scottish, German, English, and etc...etc...

 

How is that mixed, exactly? Aren't they like...well...Just white?

 

Now I am mixed...My mother is half black and half Irish...My father was Black and Sicillian Italian(No I'm not mobbed up...haha).

 

If someone said that they were: Nigerian, Scottish, and Korean, now that would be a mix...

But I never got why someone of total European ancestry considers that a "Mix." I mean culturally it is a mix, but not phenotypically.

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No offense when I ask this question, but I have seen it in this thread a few times...And I will never get it...

 

Why is it that white people call themselves "mutts" and "Mixed?" I know people who say that they are: Scottish, German, English, and etc...etc...

 

How is that mixed, exactly? Aren't they like...well...Just white?

 

No offense taken :)

 

I think most Whites think like that for a few reasons. One is that historically, most European nations ended up in a conflict with other European nations, and conflicts are great for encouraging the members of one nation or ethnicity to become boastful of their unique heritage and so forth, and such traits don't leave a people easily. It's not bad, of course, just a side-effect of conflicts and the need to identify.

 

That's how I try to think. I of course have a reasonable amount of pride in my particular ethnicities, but I don't let it become like a gang-mentality, where it's always "my people vs. your people." That's counterproductive.

 

And even though the races are different in many ways, we're also the same, so today I have broadened the above, and used my old feelings towards race and culture to help me appreciate the differences of all folk. But that's off-topicish.

 

Also, today, I think Whites just don't get what you said. White is White - nations are only lines on a map, and ethnicities are only really established depending on which nation you were born in or your ancestors came from. To be genuinely "mixed" would indeed imply that a person, like yourself, has two or more distinct genetic heritages. A Nigerian is more different from a Russian than a Russian is from an Irishman, if you follow my meaning.

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I'm different. Light skinned as my father was, he might have been bi-racial, but he held firmly onto his blackness. There was no way to not be fully aware of our racial heritage living under his roof. In contrast though, I had almost nothing but white associates and friends, and took up interests that would be considered outside the black spectrum.

 

I was picked on for being different, but after a certain point, I began to and still do identify with what is typically known as black culture. I tend to speak in ebonics, listen to rap, and act in a somewhat hip-hop-esque manner, even though I am capable of speaking with perfect fluency, and I'm still just as interested in "wierd" things as I ever was. The result: I'm now looked at strangely by EVERY group, even the wierdos, and people generally only take in parts of me, but can't process the full me. Fine.

 

As to the N word, I refer you back to this. There's the camp that wants to quarantine the word, and there's the camp that wants to exhaust it. I think for the most part I fall into the latter, because I think it depends upon who uses the word, and in what context they use it. For instance, have any of you ever noticed a white person in conversation, come to a point where the N word might be used, and see them hesitate before saying it? Happens to me all the time. I'm still debating whether or not I should be offended.

 

When I first started posting here, I know there's no one who was around long enough to remember, but I frequently brought up race as an issue; I felt the strong need to drag it out into the open, because for all that I have never had a problem dealing with races, that doesn't mean that racism in outright and subtle forms doesn't exist. I think my main deal was and is with people who think there's no need to acknowledge that there are differences.

 

There are differences, people. I don't want to 'not see the color of someone's skin' I just want to have a decent reaction to that aspect. I think that is more proactive than ignorance.

 

Additionally, does one have to be avowedly racist to be racist? If not, then I would posit that most blacks are racist, otherwise very few of us are.

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