Fweethawt Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Umm... Have fun! www.rense.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Gods Fail Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Everyone knows that if there is any space travelling civilization anywhere in the Universe that the Holy Spirit would guide them directly to us so that they can hear about Jesus and all that he has done for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willybilly30 Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 It'd probally be better if Aliens never showed up here they'd either be experimented on, or made slaves or some country would war with it look threw history how people treated people who were diffrent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightbearer Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Perhaps all the other aliens killed themselves because they were religious fanatics or socialists... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuaiDan Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 We humans are enormously egocentric. To suggest that a race that is possibly millions of years more advance than us would us something like radio transmissions to communicate is laughable, so no wonder we've never intercepted interstellar radio transmissions. Humans used drums and smoke signals to communicate for a short time in history, and then abandoned these modes of communication when more advanced, effective, and efficient means were developed. One can only speculate what these more advanced means used by extraterrestrials might be, such as 'subspace' communication in Star Trek, whatever that might be. Even in our own day and age, the amount of information that needs to be transmitted over a particular medium is increasing exponentially, with bandwidth limitations becoming a bottleneck in how fast we can exchange information. Radio waves have a theoretical limit in bandwidth capacity, it's only a matter of time before that theoretical limit becomes a real limit. The higher the frequency of a medium, the higher the theoretical bandwidth of that medium. Hence, fiber optics, which use frequencies around the visible light range, have an enormous theoretical bandwidth advantage over radio waves. Just a speculation, but i see no reason why, given an advanced enough technology, x-rays couldn't be used for communication, which would have a theoretical bandwidth billions of times that of radio waves. If this is the case, then the entire SETI project is looking for a needle in a haystack when the needle isn't a needle at all. I'm just talking out my ass here. If anyone has any hard evidence to support or refute this, please do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shiva H. Vishnu Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Any other civilisation in this vast universe would have the same problems confront them as we do when considering interstellar travel. There's no reason, given the age of the universe and the time it took for humans to evolve under these apparently ideal circumstances, to assume that life has evolved elsewhere more rapidly and successfully than here on earth. Perhaps somewhere in the universe the process happened more quickly, but are we to assume that, even though we can barely detect a system that "might" contain a planet that could support life, elsewhere, lifeforms have such a leg up on us that they can travel impossible distances to spy on us, undetected by those other than the guy on the subway with the posterboard plaque proclaiming that Ronal Wilson Reagn = 666. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuaiDan Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 It's not that life evolved more quickly, just that elsewhere life originated and started evolving long before our sun was a twinkling in a gas cloud's eye. Our sun is a middle age star. There are stars millions and billions of years younger than our own, there are also stars potentially billions of years older than ours. If life evolved elsewhere, there's an equal chance that it's way older or way younger than life on earth. And not by just a few years either. If said lifeforms evolved differently from our own, and potentially millions of years older than life on earth, they could be so vastly different from us in form and function they would make "Alien vs. Predator" look like "Friends". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosingMyReligion Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 I do believe in extraterrestrial life. And, frankly, as others have stated, if I were an intelligent life form I would stay the hell away from Earth too. We are not as virtuous and brilliant as Steven Spielberg might have you believe. They've probably ceased all contact since Bush was elected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knightley Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Personally I think that we as a society all over the globe are just not ready to "receive" aliens. I believe there is intelligent life out there, though they may not necessarily be "greys." My trouble with ufos and that whole shebang is that people try to get spiritual about it. For example, there was a local film shown in Phoenix, AZ called The Phoenix Lights and it was great, I thought that the documentary was well done. I even bought the book, and then towards the middle the author started talking of an out of body experience and spiritual matters. I don't understand what aliens have to do with faith and spirituality, and why people need to mesh them. I want cold hard truth, I need evidence, I don't want people to use aliens/intelligent life as a cover for their beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest droskey Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 LadyFeline ...Or, you know, the simplest answer could be the easiest one. If there are aliens out there who have interstellar travel down pat... it's a big fuckin' galaxy, folks. And an even bigger fuckin' universe. It'd be really, really, REALLY easy to overlook one dinky little planet in the inner shell of a dinky little solar system, orbiting a dinky little yellow dwarf that's floating aimlessly out in the fucking boondocks of the Milky Way. I think that this idea is pretty plausible. I don't really think that anyone (including Noble Lauriate physicists) have a very good intuitive feel for how big space is. I can see an advanced civilization tooling around the galaxy for eons without stumbling on one particular civilization. It seems plausible to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnceConvinced Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Personally I think that we as a society all over the globe are just not ready to "receive" aliens. I think we're as ready as we'll ever be. I think the only problem is that we'll all think they're evil bastards based on the the movies and TV shows that have protrayed them that way. But I don't think it would be too much of a shock if one day they did reveal one live on a televised news broadcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knightley Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 I meant we're not ready in terms of.... How can we be ready to receive aliens if we can't even get along with each other? The war on Iraq? Anyone? People think that everyone has to be the same, that we have to think the same, believe the same, etc. If there is intelligent life out there, then I think there will be those with "bad" and "good" intentions, just like us. If intelligent life looks like those "grey" aliens, then people would freak major. And how can we get along with greys if we have a hard time being around with people of different races? There will always be prejudice and somehow I just can't help thinking that it will be worse with greys or intelligent life that looks different than human beings. I think aliens have already seen Earth, and that they're watching our planet but maybe don't want to interact with us just yet. Its also quite difficult when the government denies that there's ever been any alien contact, crashes, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 A war with aliens might be the only way to make all humans to join forces and be united for once... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosingMyReligion Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Once I saw this really boring movie starring: Don Cheadle, Jerry O'Connell, Tim Robbins, and Gary Sinise... Anywho, the moral of the story was that aliens had created the Earth and mankind... I wonder how would fundies react if that were actually true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Some claim that we already have met the aliens. If that's true maybe they are just sort of lurking around, keeping a low profile. Maybe they are interested in how things are going to develop on Earth. Maybe they are millions of years more advanced than we are and we remind them of themselves when they were young and stupid. Maybe they get a hoot out of watching us fumble around. It's all speculation of course, but interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuaiDan Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 And how can we get along with greys if we have a hard time being around with people of different races? Greys? please. The ET's probably don't even look remotely like us. Why be restricted to a anthropomorphic form. Perhaps they look like gelatinous spiders. Perhaps they are photosynthetic. maybe they are a superintelligent collective, like highly evolved ants, but are incapable of functioning as individuals. In all probability they are robots or beings of pure energy, having abandoned their corporeal bodies eons ago. Writers and movie makers suggest anthropomorphic forms out of convenience,lack of imagination, or they fact that it's easier and cheaper to make an actor look like a grey than a giant spider (kudos to Starship Troopers. Now those were what I would call aliens). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 And how can we get along with greys if we have a hard time being around with people of different races? Greys? please. The ET's probably don't even look remotely like us. Why be restricted to a anthropomorphic form. Perhaps they look like gelatinous spiders. Perhaps they are photosynthetic. maybe they are a superintelligent collective, like highly evolved ants, but are incapable of functioning as individuals. In all probability they are robots or beings of pure energy, having abandoned their corporeal bodies eons ago. Writers and movie makers suggest anthropomorphic forms out of convenience,lack of imagination, or they fact that it's easier and cheaper to make an actor look like a grey than a giant spider (kudos to Starship Troopers. Now those were what I would call aliens). If you liked the movie then I would suggest reading the book. It is a lot more interesting and a lot more enjoyable There are definitely aliens in this universe. It is way too big to be just us. The most intelligent life we might find may be a world crawling with primitive manbearpigs, but hey at least we wouldn't be alone. I'm just so glad god took all his time and effort making our planet and then spent a few minutes on the rest of hte universe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsmoke Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Personally, I view the book and movie as being practically independent from one another. The movie is an action film, and a pretty damn good one at that; whereas the book is a dissertation on a fascist government system in which the war and the bugs play the relatively minor role of being a setting agaisnt which to place it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MQTA Posted July 29, 2006 Share Posted July 29, 2006 Once I saw this really boring movie starring: Don Cheadle, Jerry O'Connell, Tim Robbins, and Gary Sinise... Anywho, the moral of the story was that aliens had created the Earth and mankind... I wonder how would fundies react if that were actually true? Like the Raelians early claims... we were created in their image from DNA manipulation. Our creators were just scientists. Some day we may all find out for sure... but then who's the aliens.. us or them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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