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I'm a recent deconvert and use to be really fundy--so fundy my faith prevented me from listening to "worldly" music of any sorts -- NO rock, NO alternative, NO easy listening, Not even certain classical peices. Well, I spent the day catching up on what I have been missing out for the past decade. I listened to some Buble, Pop, Rock, and some easy listening--let me tell you--my soul has never been more uplifted.

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For some good philosophical rock that really makes you think, try Rush, the little three-piece band from Canada. My personal favorite is "Witchhunt, part three of Fear" but "Free Will" is one that most people here can really relate to. They're not light, and they can be pretty dark, but they always make you think.

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For some good philosophical rock that really makes you think, try Rush...

RUSH!

You're right... You don't have to agree...but they make you think.

Tool is a fairly dominant band right now... Outstanding compositions...not as melodic as I generally like...but very heady.

System of a Down...quite preachy...but fun.

I even like some of the new Country Music (never thought I'd say that)...like Keith Urban, and...well, that's about it for a country artist (though some individual songs of other artists are good)...

Blink182 may not be around anymore, but they put out some good music.

I was in your same boat..."Don't listen to The World's Music...burn the records...fill your head and mind with Praise and Worship and The Word of God...everything else will destroy your faith (and holiness)".

Have fun... It is fun.

To tell the truth, though...I miss some of the stuff I used to do (some of the music I used to sing)...by Don Potter. He was an outstanding musician who surrounded himself with great musicians...

But...we are where we are.

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Minstrel, honest music has more truth and beauty than the bible ever did.

 

Try some Wilco, the Decemberists, Pixies, Social Distortion, The Clash, Tom Waits, Black Rebel Motorcycle Club, etc. There's a lot of great music out there!

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Yeah!

 

*throws confetti*

 

;)

 

Believe me I completely understand how you feel, its very liberating isn't it?

There are lots of music websites like http://music.yahoo.com sign up for free and get to listen to diff genres. Enjoy discovering new bands, personally I couldn't live without music, it definitely helps me get through life. :)

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I remember the first time we had a non-christian baby sitter. I was 9 and she played some pop radio station all night. I remember sitting in front of the stereo all night long with mouth agape, stunned at the level of musicianship in godless music. At one point I asked, transfixed, who was creating this sonic blessing which is rock. The baby sitter said it was Styx. How appropriate that my inauguration to real music should be to listen to a band named for something from a competing mythology.

 

Fuck christian music. Most of all it's an avenue for the marginally talented to sneak into a large audience and capitolise on their mediocrity.

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Being involved in the recording studio world I've recorded ALOT of xtian bands. Actually, doing just one project was too many, but their money was just as green for me at the time. The owner of one studio I worked for had a xtian band, and had a small level of success in the local xtian scene.

 

He said something to me once that kind of stuck in my head. He was describing a large scale xtian concert that was comming up (kinda like a xtian lollapalooza) and said that they (each individual xtain band) actually market their sounds to mimick a mainstream band as a "witnessing" tool.

 

"Hey, you like Matchbox 20? You would love "Band X". Oh, you like System of a Down? Then you should listen to "Band Y"."

 

IOW, they don't even write music that comes from themselves. They basicly listen to the "godless" bands, and then rip off their sound, chord progressions, etc. in an effort to give kids an alternative but still stay within the styles that they like. The result is crappy, souless "music" because it never came from an honest place.

 

Anybody ever watch that South Park when Cartman forms a xtain band and makes it big? My all time favorite episode. One song lyric:

 

"I can't wait to get on my knees and start pleasing jesus/ I can't wait to feel the warmth of his salvation all over my face" :eek:

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I'm a recent deconvert and use to be really fundy--so fundy my faith prevented me from listening to "worldly" music of any sorts -- NO rock, NO alternative, NO easy listening, Not even certain classical peices. Well, I spent the day catching up on what I have been missing out for the past decade. I listened to some Buble, Pop, Rock, and some easy listening--let me tell you--my soul has never been more uplifted.

 

wow. reminds me of the movie "Equilibrium". If you havent seen it, you might like it.

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Fuck christian music. Most of all it's an avenue for the marginally talented to sneak into a large audience and capitolise on their mediocrity.

I agree on 99.9999....% of it. Don Potter was a world class musician...but only a couple of his songs were even worth the time.

 

 

 

Being involved in the recording studio world I've recorded ALOT of xtian bands. Actually, doing just one project was too many, but their money was just as green for me at the time. The owner of one studio I worked for had a xtian band, and had a small level of success in the local xtian scene.

He said something to me once that kind of stuck in my head. He was describing a large scale xtian concert that was comming up (kinda like a xtian lollapalooza) and said that they (each individual xtain band) actually market their sounds to mimick a mainstream band as a "witnessing" tool.

IOW, they don't even write music that comes from themselves. They basicly listen to the "godless" bands, and then rip off their sound, chord progressions, etc. in an effort to give kids an alternative but still stay within the styles that they like. The result is crappy, souless "music" because it never came from an honest place.

:eek:

Somehow, I knew all this, but like the rest of Christianity that doesn't make sense, I suppressed its knowledge (or, ever dealing with it)... But, each band I joined did exactly that...

There were exceptions, though...(I don't know that there still are)...

 

 

wow. reminds me of the movie "Equilibrium". If you havent seen it, you might like it.

Who's in it? The title seems reminescent of something I might have watched recently.

 

 

Minstrel, honest music has more truth and beauty than the bible ever did.

Try some Wilco, the Decemberists, Pixies, Social Distortion, The Clash, Tom Waits, Black Rebel Motorcycle Club, etc. There's a lot of great music out there!

I do agree!

For me, Enya is a paradox...in that she does fairly simple music (and has for 20 years or more), and yet it continues to hold a spark of passion. Sting still puts out some good music. I have listened to some of Tom Waits and The Clash...but am not familiar with the rest you mentioned. YES remains my favorite band, but they haven't done anything I've really enjoyed since 1994.

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That is the most liberating thing about leaving christianity behind. I have done so much catching up on great: music, movies, television, and porn it's ridiculous...

 

I listen to all kinds of music because I never listend to anything except Gospel and Christian rock for several years. And, let me tell you, real hard rock is way better anything this fundies can come up with. Forget Jesus I wanna hear about people gettin drunk and screwin.

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I have listened to some of Tom Waits and The Clash...but am not familiar with the rest you mentioned. YES remains my favorite band, but they haven't done anything I've really enjoyed since 1994.

 

I'm a huge music geek, and I tend not to listen to mainstream stuff (unless it's really good). I think you'd probably really enjoy the Decemberist's 'Picaresque' and Wilco's 'Yankee Hotel Foxtrot'.

 

The Decemberists are an unusual combination of quirky pop and literary aspirations, but can also bust out incredibly addictive, hooky songs.

 

Wilco is what's called 'alt country', but the emphasis is on 'alt'. In fact, they don't really sound country at all. More like Woody Gutherie if he'd been born about 50 years later and had electric guitars and liked ambient noise.

 

Also, take a listen to The New Pornographers - any album of theirs is fantastic. Alt pop that's catchier than anything you'll hear on the radio, and extremely fun.

 

There's so much great alt/indy music out there right now, it's a shame to limit yourself to 'classic' rock - I like AC/DC as much as the next guy, but there's so much more out there. The last 10 years have been kind of a golden age for alternative music.

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heh, if you think the music is bad, just try reading christian fiction, in the last couple of years when I was a xian it had gotten better, but its not quite up to par as the stuff that we (non-xians) read. Stephen King and Dean Koontz have been ripped off by writers like Frank Peretti and Ted Dekker, and out of the two I think Dekker is the one with the talent.

 

However you notice how bible stories are recycled to fit into the present day like the story of job, etc. Even as a xian I hate how they depicted non-xians, they would always have the non-xian character fucked up. That bugged the hell out of me. Non-fiction books targeted for women were even worse, encouraging stepford like behavior, ugh. Disgusting shit.

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Good spiritual music? Try Alanis Morissette. I absolutely love her. Although avoid So-Called Chaos (her 2004 album) like the plague. She was in a, ah, bad period then. (Think fake-80's-retro clothes and "life coaching" with Debbie Ford).

 

Tori Amos was good until she went insane. Her first two albums were great but anything after that is just alternately screaming and mumbling garbage dressed as poetry to disjointed piano pieces. In my opinion.

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Lately I've been mesmerized by Simon Shaheen's The Music of Mohammed Abdel Wahab. Shaheen is a Catholic Arab, born in Palestine.

 

Don't miss it if you are a fan of the 'oud and Arabic violin; Shaheen is a master of both instruments. The percussion is also top-notch. Be prepared for odd stares, though, if you play it for others. A fellow teacher walked into my room before school when it was on, and he looked like he was contemplating reporting me to homeland security.

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Oh yeah - if you were a Protestant you were probably told not to listen to any papist Catholic music, right? I know I was. If so I highly suggest Anonymous 4. They do mideval church chant and they really do make it sound like angels. If I close my eyes while listening to it I can just imagine sitting in a hushed cathedral with walls of glass, lit only by the light of flickering fire lamps, surrounded by miles of unspoiled green hills dotted with castles populated by side-saddling ladies in gold-netted braids and silk wimples and, somewhere, a stone with a sword thrust through it.......

 

Also the church music of Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina. He wrote during the early Renaissance and his polyphony and counterpoint genius have yet to be surpassed, or even matched. Try to find an album with "Missa de Beata Virgine" on it. Not to be missed.

 

And if you just like rock 'n' roll, try the White Stripes. They're so refreshing after twenty years of overdone synthesizers and overblown production passing as "rock music".

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Radiohead. OK Computer.

 

A bit inaccessible for a beginner, prog-rockish, but quite rewarding if you allow yourself to get into it. Sheer genious. IMHO, one of the best rock albums ever cut.

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Hi :)

I love such a variety of music from Black sabbeth to Enya.

But I particularly am a fan of (now no more) the British band "James" http://www.jamestheband.com/

 

Tim Booth- http://www.timbooth.co.uk/

was the main vocalist and does his own thing now... He writes a lot from experience, fantastic lyrics and melodies... One of his songs when he was with the band James was "God only knows"...

http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/God...8256A8C002F0F95

 

you have to hear it... Fast and great beat and the lyrics are apt!

 

Their DVD is fantastic... You will love all the other tunes... Wow! Recommend it

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000067OY...ance&n=5174

 

I have a link to his website on my website for "Ex-Fundamentalists

http://www.geocities.com/susancasey261/fun_d_mental.html

 

Regards

Susan from Scotland

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I'm a recent deconvert and use to be really fundy--so fundy my faith prevented me from listening to "worldly" music of any sorts -- NO rock, NO alternative, NO easy listening, Not even certain classical peices. Well, I spent the day catching up on what I have been missing out for the past decade. I listened to some Buble, Pop, Rock, and some easy listening--let me tell you--my soul has never been more uplifted.

 

 

That kick so much ass.

 

I'm a sound designer & engineer, so I completely relate to how important & uplifting music is!

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Some music can still give me the goosebumps and the "transcendental" feeling that I used to get as a Christian.

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Some music can still give me the goosebumps and the "transcendental" feeling that I used to get as a Christian.

If there were such a thing as "Rapture", I think it would have to do with music (though, not necessarily the trumpet blast and shout of an archangel).

Have you been able to do anything musically since leaving christendom?

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If there were such a thing as "Rapture", I think it would have to do with music (though, not necessarily the trumpet blast and shout of an archangel).

 

Of course, it's "Rapture" by Blondie. The scenario presented in that song is a nice alternative from the one presented by most Christians.

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I'm a recent deconvert and use to be really fundy--so fundy my faith prevented me from listening to "worldly" music of any sorts -- NO rock, NO alternative, NO easy listening, Not even certain classical peices. Well, I spent the day catching up on what I have been missing out for the past decade. I listened to some Buble, Pop, Rock, and some easy listening--let me tell you--my soul has never been more uplifted.

Haha, music is awesome. I too have been spending the past few weeks (months?) catching up on all the music I missed.

 

My favs are Godsmack, Staind, 3 Doors Down, Saliva, Seether, and a lot of other stuff...

 

Godsmack is probably my all-time favorite though. It could just be because they have a few "anti-religion" songs, but they are good.

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