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So there's been talk of a female president, Hillary Clinton keeps coming up as a candidate in that regard. So are we ready for a female president, will it happen in our lifetime? I would love to see a woman in office, but I don't think that people are just ready yet especially the fundies. What's your take?

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The only way a woman president would get elected in this country, is if she was conservative, ie republican candidate – following the pattern of other democracies like Britian (Thatcher) or as recently Germany (Merkel). The smear against Hilary Clinton has already begun and is in full swing. I believe it was the toe-sucker Dick Morris who wrote a book about pitching H/C against Condo Rice as opposing candidates in 08.

 

So yah, I agree with you re: the fundies.

 

I would vote against Clinton in the primaries because she refuses to denounce this stupid, wastefull, war for Cheney's oil interest and the raid on our taxpayer money for generations to come. Same for Schummer. With that, I hope Ned utterly crushes Leiberman in the primaries.

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A DNC sponsorship for Hillary's 08 presidential bid would be the RNC's dream come true.

 

For exactly that reason, it ain't gonna' happen.

 

Personally, I expect we'll see a black man in the oval office before a woman of any stripe--and that's still a long way off.

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Making a big deal over a politician as if she'd actually do any good for the country :lmao::lmao::lmao::Wendywhatever:

 

In other words, Hillary will not change anything anymore than any other politician would. She'll serve herself as soon as she gets elected, just like the rest. Politics suck.

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I'd like to have a woman President -just not Hillary Clinton.

 

My ideal President, regardless of anything, would be someone who would try to find a situation where everyone who has a stake wins. Socialized medicine? Fine. But I want to be able to opt out in favor of a free market alternative. Whomever does it better gets my money. Get rid of guns? Fine. Abortion? Not an issue, because the lobbyists have no stake. That's a personal decision. Environment? Put your money towards either government or private research on cleaner fuels, cleaning up after ecological disasters, bringing wildlife back from the verge of extinction. Allow those taxpayers who are interested in getting guns off the street to start a buyback and destroy program.

 

Whatever programs are not funded fail, and the taxpayer should be allowed to choose where those funds go. Give honest numbers about which programs need money and let the People decide each year where they want to divert their funds.

 

It's time to end the debate, because the true point of contention is not the programs themselves, but the fact that they are compulsory.

 

Has anyone ever seen a government that was run on accountability? Has any government ever asked you for money instead of demanding it? Paying to government should be in some cases an act of charity and good will, and in others a payment for services rendered.

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I also have issues with Hillary. Some of the things I heard her say in the book "it takes a village" seemed troubling to me. It was like she was suggesting that people needed the state to raise their kids.

 

Now, while I don't like the idea of fundies rasing kids and turning them into fundies, I like the idea of the state becoming even more involved in child rearing than it already is, faaar more scary.

 

It reminds me of how the Nazis would control the education of thier children to thhe point that they would turn their own fathers in for crimes against the state.

 

Don't get me wrong, I doubt very much that Clitons intent is to brainwash children, but the kind of institutions she is in favor of would set up a situation ripe for abuse in the future...Ii just think she hasn''t thought her ideas through fully.

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Exactly - Hillary is a big proponent of big-government statism, the last thing any country needs more of.

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What's your take?

 

I don't know about the ladies eligible for presidency over there at your place, but...

 

...I can tell you with conviction that in our case, gender definitely doesn't matter. Merkel tells the same lies and bullshit Schröder (and Kohl before that one) told too. :shrug:

 

A change still might be nice of course... but I think one shouldn't be too sure that this will actually change anything.

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I just want a good president, male or female or differently sexed. The whole two-party system needs to be pulled down, it's corrupt to the core on both sides - give me a fiscally conservative and socially liberal party. As to Hillary, I hear a lot of talk about her being 'unelectable' in a presidential race but a lot of people thought she had no chance in NY either - I do not underestimate her if she were to get the nomination. I don't see any frontrunners on the Republican side, maybe someone will just appear 'out of the blue' before the election comes.

 

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So there's been talk of a female president, Hillary Clinton keeps coming up as a candidate in that regard. So are we ready for a female president, will it happen in our lifetime? I would love to see a woman in office, but I don't think that people are just ready yet especially the fundies. What's your take?

 

I believe an excellent female president would be Condie Rice. She is brilliant and tough.

Hillary is absolutely, totally, 100% unelectable. She would be a Republican's dream come true as a Semocratic nominee. 90% of the voting public hates her. That is my observation.

 

So there's been talk of a female president, Hillary Clinton keeps coming up as a candidate in that regard. So are we ready for a female president, will it happen in our lifetime? I would love to see a woman in office, but I don't think that people are just ready yet especially the fundies. What's your take?

 

I believe an excellent female president would be Condie Rice. She is brilliant and tough.

Hillary is absolutely, totally, 100% unelectable. She would be a Republican's dream come true as a Semocratic nominee. 90% of the voting public hates her. That is my observation.

 

Democratic,,,sorry

 

So there's been talk of a female president, Hillary Clinton keeps coming up as a candidate in that regard. So are we ready for a female president, will it happen in our lifetime? I would love to see a woman in office, but I don't think that people are just ready yet especially the fundies. What's your take?

 

 

Also, along these same lines, your next president will be John McCain. You heard it here first!

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I second bdp's post, except I'm a social libertarian. We don't need another finger in the wind politician, especially like Hillary, a harpie with a heart of stone cold glacial ice. She's currently moving toward the center for political purposes only, but I don't think she'll even be nominated--and not because she's a woman, that's her biggest political asset.

 

I don't know who will be nominated and it won't make much difference. Both parties are socialist and differ only in their degree of socialism. Some of Bush's social programs took them by surprise if only because he suggested them.

 

However we do it, we need to stop selling our freedom for ever more security. I believe women, in general, are the reason we've become overly security conscious.

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I believe women, in general, are the reason we've become overly security conscious.

 

I blame it on the mongrel races, like the Micronesians. People that small are not to be trusted.

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So there's been talk of a female president, Hillary Clinton keeps coming up as a candidate in that regard. So are we ready for a female president, will it happen in our lifetime? I would love to see a woman in office, but I don't think that people are just ready yet especially the fundies. What's your take?

 

It won't happen. Maybe in 100 years, but definitely not now. The majority of Christians believe that men should be the head of the household and all other areas of life(all that "ordained by gawd" ish). There is no way that they would follow a woman into war. America is still very backwards, and the fundies are going to use it as a rallying cry...If Hilary runs the DEMS will lose again, I guarandamntee it.

I predominantly blame Democrats for not using dynamic candidates...I only voted for John Kerry because I loathed the alternative. John Kerry is like one of those Ents in Lord of The Rings...

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I'd like to have a woman President -just not Hillary Clinton.

 

Agreed. Too much baggage to ever have a chance. If the dems put her up to show how "forward thinking" they are, the reps could just nominate condi and have a blank and female candidate...

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It won't happen. Maybe in 100 years, but definitely not now. The majority of Christians believe that men should be the head of the household and all other areas of life(all that "ordained by gawd" ish). There is no way that they would follow a woman into war. America is still very backwards, and the fundies are going to use it as a rallying cry...If Hilary runs the DEMS will lose again, I guarandamntee it.

I predominantly blame Democrats for not using dynamic candidates...I only voted for John Kerry because I loathed the alternative. John Kerry is like one of those Ents in Lord of The Rings...

Yeah I don't think I will ever see a woman in office in my lifetime, would be nice, but let's be realistic. And yeah I voted for John Kerry as well, I really didn't want to have to see Bush's mug for the next four years. Its funny other countries, have already had female prime ministers and female presidents, some examples...

 

Tarja Halonen (Finland's president)

 

Vaira Vīķe-Freiberga (Latvia's president)

 

Mary McAleese (Ireland's president)

 

So those are just a few examples. Now I just don't get it, the United States is the most powerful country, and yet other countries are more ready for a female president, hell they've already been elected and are serving office. And yes I know that this has to do with the jesus hicks that are running our country. :ugh:

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To go immediately from eight years of Bush to a female democrat would probably cause a rip in the space-time continuum that'll make the solar system implode on itself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not kidding. :mellow:

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I believe women, in general, are the reason we've become overly security conscious.

 

I blame it on the mongrel races, like the Micronesians. People that small are not to be trusted.

 

Really? I always thought it was the Inuit. Seal clubbin' motherfuckers anyway.

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Speaking of women presidents, I was in Helsinki over the weekend and they had an interview with Conan O'Brien airing on TV. Conan looks strikingly like their president. It's quite hilarious. Check it out: http://www.videovat.com/videos/965/finland...ent-obrien.aspx

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If Cindy Sheehan ran I'd vote for her, but not Clinton. If she is the canidate I'll have to vote for myself again.

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I wouldn't vote for Hillary either. But I would vote for a woman. I honestly DO believe that we'll see a woman president in our lifetime, but as the above poster mentioned, she'll probably have to be a conservative Republican in order to get the white male vote.

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I honestly DO believe that we'll see a woman president in our lifetime, but as the above poster mentioned, she'll probably have to be a conservative Republican in order to get the white male vote.

I think we will see one but I dont think too many conservative male republicans would vote for her, they might vote against her for that reason.

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Really, I can't add anything what hasn't already been said by Jackson and BDP.

 

The whole frakking system stinks.

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