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Ladyfractal and Greygirl, aren't you a couple? I think so. If so, then get a room. Have you been worn down to frustration by this weak and not so smart Christian that you have to butt into this discussion with this kind of crap? I believe I saw you both on another thread, and pointed out that I DON'T CARE. In fact, unless I can watch, I DON"T CARE. What a cheap and stupid post. You are the the epitome of what I was saying there about militant sexuality and who gives a shit with what you do with what's between your legs. Grow the fuck up. This ain't the place.

 

Dude:

 

I know you are going to start to rail against PC (whatever that means) and try to pretend to all manner of personal umbrage and attacks against your right to be an individual but I just cannot let this go. How does saying "I love you woman, I really, deeply do." represent "militant sexuality"? Why? Because we're both *women*? I want you to seriously think about this and then please elucidate the principal because I really would like to know.

 

Greygirl proffered an example that I found quite funny and illustrative of how random thoughts do not an elegant argument make. I like intelligence, I find cleverness to be THE most alluring trait a woman can have and the most attractive trait anyone can possess generally. So in that moment, and with the caveat that I don't normally do this, I said that I love her. I said nothing about sex. I want to make that perfectly clear. My direct quote was "I love you, woman. I really, deeply do." Now, perhaps I've been staring at a Bash shell prompt for too many years but the last I checked that statement says nothing about 'what's between my legs'. (Or who as the case may be)

 

Let me dispel a couple of confusions you appear to have, Duderonomy because I think you are used to a very different kind of netizen than I am.

 

1> If you think you're going to get me emotional and have me either cursing you or crying, you're wrong. I made that mistake twice, back in the late 80's on a USENET group and realized that the minute I give someone an emotional reaction, I've lost.

 

2> If you think I'm going to concede that *because the person I'm saying I love you too is a woman that that somehow automagically conveys something sexual* you are very much mistaken, sir. It does not. As someone pointed out on the now-closed Lion's Den thread which started this, if they had said that to their wife, you would've shined the post on. You went out of your way--completely out of your way, in fact--to draw attention to a post that you could just as easily have let slide.

My post and Greygirl's response to it, was not directed at you. It was not in response to anything that you said. Your over-the-top reaction to it is entirely out of all proportion to its importance.

 

3> Now, I understand that for whatever reasons (which are irrelevant to me at this juncture) you wanted Amy to focus in on your postings to her. She chose not to. That's just too bad. Sorry about that, old boy but that's the way message boards are. My alien thought experiment was just that. If you failed to grasp that it was a thought experiment then that is your own lookout. If you wanted a formal debate wherein it would be singularly inappropriate for anyone else to butt in, I believe you could've suggested that you and Amy have that on the Arena board. But you didn't.

 

4> Now, I predict that the following is going to happen. Your response to me is going to be based upon the idea that "you don't care" but you manifestly do care, sir. It is obvious that you do to anyone with any amount of English language comprehension. You will then rail against how you are not going to be "PC" and you'll speak your mind regardless of what anyone else thinks. You will *then* go off on some riff about what two people do in bed is none of your concern except neither greygirl or I stated anything about doing anything in bed so, again, your returning to this baseline of not caring shows that, in fact, you *do* care what people do in bed.

 

One last thing, being queer isn't all about what one does in bed anymore than being straight is about what one does in bed. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and presume that, at least once in your life, you have loved someone enough to believe that the flowers bloomed beneath her very feet. Was that all about sex? If so, please convey my condolences to her because no one--man or woman, gay, straight or bi--deserves to be treated as a body-temperature sex toy in their relationship. If not, then my point should be painfully obvious to you.

 

Cheers

lf

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:eek:

 

Holy crap!

 

The things I miss when I go to bed!

 

Dude- what you said was NOT cool!

 

Ladyfractal and Greygirl have every right to express their Real Life friendship here! If they have an intimate relationship, then they have every right to have it! And then there's always context. Jeez! If I really liked a post of yours, and expressed it by saying "I love you, man." Do you think you'd get a warm welcome from me if you showed up on my doorstep with flowers and nothing on but a bow? Context!

 

Don't be a damn creep!

 

Edit: <still fucking pissed>

 

And then there's this:

In fact, unless I can watch, I DON"T CARE

 

Dude- how the fuck would you like it if some guy walked up to you and your girlfriend, leered at the both of you, and said: "You two are so hot, can I watch you in bed?"

:vent:

 

You know god damn well you wouldn't be pleased or flattered, you'd more likely want to kick the sleazeball's ass!

 

Yet that is exactly the kind of proposition bisexual and lesbian women receive from condescending sexist jerks all the damn time!

 

Telling people your porno fantasy is not cool. Just because voyeurism seems perfectly harmless to you, doesn't mean everyone feels that way. There are people who are really into buttsex. Yet they don't go around telling everyone they meet that they are into buttsex before the other person knows so much as their NAME!

 

You want to objectify people for your erotic viewing pleasure, make friends with like-minded people, but be prepared to cater to their kink too.

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Well, as per usual in such circumstances, the original poster has accomplished the polar opposite to what he intended (or maybe not!).

 

Prior to any of this I didn't know that Greygirl and Ladyfractal even knew each other outside the bounds of this forum, let alone that there was anything deeper between them. My reaction to them being actual friends is, "so what?"; my reaction to them being lovers is, "so what?"; and my reaction to neither of these two things being the case is, "so what?".

 

Assuming that they are just friends in the real world (and, to be honest, it really is none of my business to find out either way), I tell my best friend I love her too, and I do, there's absolutely nothing sexual in it whatsoever. In that respect I am so glad I'm a woman because I can express platonic love and no one casts aspersions and I was, quite frankly, astonished that Duderonomy unleashed the tirade that he did.

 

If Dude meant to bring either Greygirl or Ladyfractal into disrepute then, in my humble opinion, he failed miserably. They will always be a focus of great respect from me, not because of their sexuality (which remains none of my god-damned business) but because they have, both of them, been the authors of some of the most intelligent comments I have read on the Internet in a long time.

 

All kudos to the pair of you!! :notworthy:

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Notice Mod Staff hasn't been quick to douse this fire...

 

Dude managed to catch hisself on fire.. My incilination to watch his ass twist in wind and burn while we bake cookies in the coals of his immolation boughs ashes..

 

"Some folks gotta lead wit' der chin ebbery fite!"

 

Will say Dude, you'de better be off to easier grounds for trying to win converts to the "School of Taking Every Shot on Chin".

 

kFL

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LF, btw is your icon a reference to nanowrimo?

 

I have a nanowrimo.org bumper sticker on my car that says: "join the dark side. we have cookies."

 

Nope. One of my co-workers who I made spit coffee out his nose when I first met him by saying, when it was pointed out that we were going to be the two house Linux geeks "Always two there are, a master and apprentice"(I do a very good Yoda) pointed it out to me for use as an in-house instant messenger avatar. I liked it so much, I kept it. :)

 

Cheers

lf

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Ladyfractal and Greygirl, aren't you a couple? I think so. If so, then get a room. Have you been worn down to frustration by this weak and not so smart Christian that you have to butt into this discussion with this kind of crap? I believe I saw you both on another thread, and pointed out that I DON'T CARE. In fact, unless I can watch, I DON"T CARE. What a cheap and stupid post. You are the the epitome of what I was saying there about militant sexuality and who gives a shit with what you do with what's between your legs. Grow the fuck up. This ain't the place.

 

None of my business (not that that's ever stopped me or anyone else from posting), but it seems to me that the person who crushed poor little Amy Marie -- in that very same thread -- by pointing out that her signature picture of the sword-in-the-stone resembled a black ass is being hypocritical by complaining about others "butting" into the discussion with what he called a "cheap and stupid post." (Not that I'm criticizing his remark to AM; I agreed with his critique of her "artwork.") Oh well, maybe he was just having a bad day. :shrug:

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Lessee...origin is the Lion's Den...check

Hurt feelings and burnned fingers...check

Am I entertained...very very check.

 

Ha ha! Only serious.

 

Cool to see the mention of your relationship. That rocks, and I'm really happy for you, and not in that I secretly want to do you way, but I am actually happy.

 

Yeah, mad overreaction to mentioning of a love life on the internet (damnit we're geeks, we aren't supposed to have those, just all the power and money, now the jocks that used to beat us up will get jealous again...*grin*).

 

Zoe, now if someone "dry humps" me on the internet, I'd have to see that as a violation of sorts, or at least a harassment. I know I make a lot of people's fantasies here (we all know that Fwee secretly has a Giant fettish), but should someone email them or post them publicly without asking me first, well, I have to admit, the creepy and personal violation factor gets kind of nasty. Double if my SO sent up a journal of our extracurriculars (though that would be, in actuality a breach of trust). It is that sort of closeness that screams stalker that gets on the inappropriate side, I would think.

 

Hell, someone is welcome to do that wrt to me, as long as I get my request first...anyone familiar with Alkaline Trio?

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Wow...I expected more...at least some leather...awww.

 

(humor for those whose sensors are broken)

 

I have a feeling that your definiton of "dry humping" and mine on the internet are a smidge different. I was refering to more...explicit...communiques. To avoid a work-warning I will leave it at that.

 

Point made and taken though. I was refering to a different extreme. And what we have seen here is definately nothing near.

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I'm not very kinked, but I am known to be full of surprises.

 

Yer literalness is appreciated.

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If Dude meant to bring either Greygirl or Ladyfractal into disrepute then, in my humble opinion, he failed miserably. They will always be a focus of great respect from me, not because of their sexuality (which remains none of my god-damned business) but because they have, both of them, been the authors of some of the most intelligent comments I have read on the Internet in a long time.

 

All kudos to the pair of you!! :notworthy:

 

Aw, thanks! You're so sweet. I'm all verklempt! :HappyCry:

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Hey everybody.

 

I'm hanging with this thread so far, except the post where "rrcanna had me pegged". That little shit needs to quit being so militant and homophobophobic, and Nivic, I seriously have no idea what you said, but it seems to have something to do with burning me at the stake. :eek:

 

If you all would see my thread here about taking a week or two off, you might understand that I understand that my posts and emotions are all over the map. I think it has something to do with my Ex-Christianity, which seems to be hitting me from all sides these days.

 

I do wonder why I am called a 'flaming homophobe' (another thread), and I wonder what that really means. Am I afraid of 'Homo's'? That's what that term seems to suggest, and if most of you resist labeling and the resultant pigeonholing, you might see where I find that term ridicoulous, stereotypical and, in my case, wrong.

 

I was out of line in saying to Greygirl and Ladyfractal what I said to them. I don't have a problem admitting that. It was in anger. Not at them, just at everything. As for Amy-Marie, yes I did point out that her sig pics and her art were sexual...or so it seemed to me. But she stood up to all of you and myself, and admitted that she didn't have 'all the answers'. In the Lion's Den at Ex-C, that's a dangerous thing to say, but she said it. I was as sick and tired of the cliched answers she gave as anyone, but c'mon, she hung in there the best she could.

 

Now, I do have to tell you all that I am a bi-sexual man, and the 'gay' half of me really resents the hatred that was thrown at me. You think I don't know all the facts? Maybe not, but neither do some of you. Why didn't I say so before this? Why? Is it your business? Do I need to? Would such an admission validate me? Again, would such an admission validate me?

 

SwissMiss,

 

It's none of my 'God-damned' business either, but remember, we wouldn't know if we weren't told. It was the Lion's Den, and as all of us were told, we can expect very heated replies there. Mostly, it seems, if we go against the P.C. (brought up as sarcasm to the O.P.) view of things, then to Hell with it, and all ideas that don't agree with the mainstream party line too. If I was a book, you'd burn me, when just not reading me would be easier.

 

:Hmm:

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It's none of my 'God-damned' business either, but remember, we wouldn't know if we weren't told. It was the Lion's Den, and as all of us were told, we can expect very heated replies there. Mostly, it seems, if we go against the P.C. (brought up as sarcasm to the O.P.) view of things, then to Hell with it, and all ideas that don't agree with the mainstream party line too. If I was a book, you'd burn me, when just not reading me would be easier.

 

 

Would you mind, when you do your triumphant return, explain two things. One, what specifically was so wrong about me telling Greygirl that I love her? Perhaps I'm just dense but it is beyond my comprehension what the problem with that statement was *other* than that we're both female.

 

Secondly, would you (or someone) mind giving me an operational definition of 'politically correct'? That word gets bandied about quite a bit on this board and I'm really trying to figure out what it is people are talking about. I don't mean the excesses of rearranging the deck chairs on the verbal Titanic, for example spelling women with a 'y'. What I mean is is political correctness to not call blacks black the N-word that rhymes with trigger? Is it politically correct to not call gay men fags? Is it political correctness to not call handicapped people crips or gimps? Is it political correctness to avoid comparisons between homosexuality and bestiality? Is it a demand for political correctness if one challenges a theist when they say that as an atheist/non-theist/agnostic/ex-Christian that we are not moral people?

 

Cheers

lf

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Oh come on people. Sounds like Dude was just having a bad day. Happens to all of us. Why just the other day I was rally pissed off and wanted to get on here and post a fake suicide note, filled with rancor, rage, and bitterness, just to get peoples' reactions. Something distracted me and by the time my thoughts turned back to this task, I thought the better of it.

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HuaiDan,

Thank you for your understanding. Why would you want to post a 'fake' suicide note? What made you so mad?

 

LadyF... I'm not sure myself what P.C. is, but when you can answer your own questions about it, let me know, will ya? Upon my Triumphant Return, things will be done my way. Let's both hope that that will never happen, because Otherwise-Minded-O-Phobes like me will be the second to go. Those who have all the answers will be first.

 

:wicked:

 

Until then, I for one will answer your two queries:

 

1) Who care(ed)? It was the lion's den, and see my post above.

 

2) I think I'm tangled up in the order of things, but I don't recall anyone here saying that you were immoral. A bit touchy, maybe, and a little angry yourself, but not immoral.

 

As a man, am I so low because I said that I would like to watch two women together? Please do research before you answer, if you want me to take you seriously.

 

Maybe YOU protest too much??

 

This whole thread seems to be about your validation, and the rallying of those of like mind around you; to my detriment. How is it then, that you are open minded and so not like me or Amy-Marie? We all look for allies, after all, it's only natural.

 

Do me another favor, will you? Wait until I take another week off from this board, and then post another Ex-Duderonomy thread. Your anger is so obvious and your questions so weak, that it might take a week or two for you to build up enough steam to make me look bad.

 

Why do you hate with such (I'm sure it's strong to you) venom, people that don't agree with you? Did someone die and leave you to be God?

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Oh come on people. Sounds like Dude was just having a bad day. Happens to all of us. Why just the other day I was rally pissed off and wanted to get on here and post a fake suicide note, filled with rancor, rage, and bitterness, just to get peoples' reactions. Something distracted me and by the time my thoughts turned back to this task, I thought the better of it.

 

That would have been very fucked up to do...glad you decided against it. Hope you are dealing with whatever upset you, though.

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LadyF... I'm not sure myself what P.C. is, but when you can answer your own questions about it, let me know, will ya? Upon my Triumphant Return, things will be done my way. Let's both hope that that will never happen, because Otherwise-Minded-O-Phobes like me will be the second to go. Those who have all answers will be first.

 

Firstly, let me see if I have this correct. You use the term PC but you have no idea what it means? Do I have that correctly?

 

 

1) Who care(ed)? It was the lion's den, and see my post above.

 

This completely ignores the question. I'm just unclear as to why the words would set you off.

 

2) I think I'm tangled up in the order of things, but I don't recall anyone here saying that you were immoral. A bit touchy, maybe, and a little angry yourself, but not immoral.

 

I don't recall saying anything about you or anyone else saying anything about my morality. Let's go back and retrace this sorry saga. I expressed my love for Greygirl. You then went on to claim how this was the kind of 'militant sexuality' you were talking about. I then asked about why. Others jumped on you for your "as long as I can watch" which I simply felt was too sophomoric to warrant any further comment from me. Now, would you mind telling me precisely what I have said that would suggest I was angry at you. Bemused, perhaps. Somewhat confused as to what your issue with two women saying "I love you" to one another is. But angry? No. As I explained to Zoe a week ago, I learned early on that one puts one emotions aside on message boards. I don't get angry, I don't get hurt, very little you can say would do that. "As long as I can watch" does not rise to that level.

 

 

This whole thread seems to be about your validation, and the rallying of those of like mind around you; to my detriment. How is it then, that you are open minded and so not like me or Amy-Marie? We all look for allies, after all, it's only natural.

 

 

No, this whole thread started because you went crazy about a statement I made. The fact that it was said in the Lion's Den is irrelevant. The fact that others saw what you said and found it offensive (rightly so) has nothing to do with my validation, nor does it have anything to do with your detriment. I AM open-minded, Dude, because I don't go about making statements about whole classes of people unless they are very measured and/or are backed up by very solid data. For example, it is simply true that more violent crimes are commmitted by men and that statement to me is entirely non-controversial. But I would never make the statement that "all men are violent" because that is demonstrably untrue.

 

Your anger is so obvious and your questions so weak, that it might take a week or two for you to build up enough steam to make me look bad.

 

Let me save you a bit of time and trouble. If you think you are going to insult me and get me angry, don't bother--it simply won't work. You can insult my intelligence if you wish to but that has no more effect than calling me, for instance, a pig-fucker. I know I don't fuck pigs so saying I do simply demonstrates your desperate casting about for something to throw me off my stride. Insulting my intelligence is exactly the same. I know I am an uncommonly intelligent woman. I'm not always the smartest person in the room but I can keep up with them. Your saying otherwise is functionally meaningless. I have, up until this point, more or less given you the benefit of the doubt that you were encephalitically endowed enough to warrant some minimal level of respect as an intellectual equal. This ham-handed attempt at flaming shows me that my optimism was hasty.

 

You may try, Dude, but your Post-fu is simply nowhere near as strong as mine. I was trying to have this as a civilized conversation between two rational adults, it would appear that you are simply incapable of having that dialogue with me. So continue your attempts at childish insults and playing the victim if you absolutely must--but I think it is clear to anyone with even a passing familiarity with the English language who here is whining and saying "The whole world is against me" and who is simply being measured, reasonable and seeking clarification while still standing firm on her own dignity.

 

Cheers

lf

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LadyF;

 

Firstly, you seem to be an idiot. Read girl, read.

 

You are the one that doesn't know what P.C. means. But I am supposed to follow all that is proper.

 

You want a flame war, or do you want an understanding? If you are unclear, it may be because you see what you want to see.

 

Man, such hatred. You just can't give it up, can you?

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Ok, first of all: a reality check for all in this thread, whereupon I will quote the pertinent posts verbatim. Just so that everybody has an immediate vantage point. Of course, this all started in the last few pages of the What Sacrifice? thread. Before it got locked.

 

I like peanut butter sandwiches, but only with marshamllow fluff or strawberry jam or some nice honey. Sometimes I toast the bread for my sandwiches, but never if the sandwich is a Fluffernutter. Once, I had a dog. She liked peanut butter, too, and she made funny faces when it got stuck to the roof of her mouth. My dog is gone now, and I miss her. Someday, I'll have another dog. Now I have cats. My cats are silly. They like to climb their big cat tree and play King of the Mountain on it. Silly cats. Sometimes I like to go for walks outside, but sometimes I don't. Sometimes I like to stay inside and feel the quiet. Butterflies are pretty. Moths are pretty, too, but most people don't think of moths as being pretty. Right now, there's a cute little bunny outside my office window. I like bunnies.

 

 

See how that works? There was a discussion going on, and then I responded to a post with a pointless story that had absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand. Just like you, Amy!

 

See, this is what I was talking about before. If you don't have an explanation and you're scared to think about it enough to come up with one, just say so. Nobody will hold it against you if you just admit that you don't know.

 

You enjoy the fantasy, it makes you feel good, you don't want to look at it too hard. Fine. You're more than welcome to go on your merry way enjoying your fantasies about marrying Jesus and fucking him silly. Not my kink, but you go and have a good time with it. Just don't expect to present your fantasy as fact not have anyone question it. If you can't defend it, don't present it as truth.

 

Okay, normally I don't do this on message boards but woman I love you! I really and deeply do.

 

Love

LF

 

Aw, I love you, too. And 27 hours from now, I'll show you just how much I love you. wub_old.gif

 

And now I'll stop before we make everyone else on the thread puke. FrogsToadBigGrin.gif

 

EDIT:

Actually, to complete the hijack, here's some lyrics that are way better than that Bryan Adams tripe:

 

This is how it seems to me

Life is only therapy

Real expensive

And no guarantees

 

So I lie here on the couch

With my heart hanging out

Frozen solid with fear

Like a rock in the ground

 

Oh, but you move me

You give me courage

I didn't know I had

You move me

Now I can't go with you

And stay where I am

So you move me

 

This is how love was to me

I could look and not see

Going through the emotions

Not knowing what they mean

 

And it scared me so much

That I just wouldn't budge

I might have stayed there forever

If not for your touch

 

Oh but you move me

Out of myself and into the fire

You move me

Now I'm burning with love

And with hope and desire

How you move me

 

You go whistling in the dark

Making light of it

Making light of it

And I follow with my heart

Laughing all the way

 

Oh 'cause you move me

You get me dancing

And you make me sing

You move me

Now I'm taking delight

In every little thing

How you move me

 

Okay, now I'm done. We now return you to your regularly scheduled debate. This hijack has been brought to you by the letters M and Z, and the number 7. Move along, nothing to see here.

 

OK, ENOUGH!!

 

There is no fucking alien. If anyone sees an alien (not from Mexico), let me know, will ya?

 

Second, I've invited Amy to go toe to toe with me or anyone on one subject. ONE. How can she when she is bombarded from a million directions with every one elses ideas about 'aliens', science, faith, and etc. I think she has done more than an admirable job of fending for herself here, and I think she has put in more than enough effort in trying to answer our questions.

 

She said many many posts ago that she doesn't know/have all the answers. She said she has faith, and she said she knows that it isn't logical. She posted her opinion on 'Jesus died...so what?' for what it was worth, and we all jumped on her.

 

Some of her posts are over-ruled without consideration, and we all know how crappy that can be. But she hangs in. She keeps a level head. she tries her best to answer, and yet she is run over like a bowling pin that is set up just to be knocked down.

 

I believe her comments about her 'sig pics' and how silly/bad/whatever they were have been directed at least in part towards what I have said. I notice that they have been replaced with this latest one, in which I see Amy (I recognize her from her other works) as looking Jesus in the eye, while He tenderly holds her face. If that's how she feels, I say fine. At least this girl has 'nads, and for once, I can't make fun of her work, anymore than I could make fun of "starry starry night".

 

 

Ladyfractal and Greygirl, aren't you a couple? I think so. If so, then get a room. Have you been worn down to frustration by this weak and not so smart Christian that you have to butt into this discussion with this kind of crap? I believe I saw you both on another thread, and pointed out that I DON'T CARE. In fact, unless I can watch, I DON"T CARE. What a cheap and stupid post. You are the the epitome of what I was saying there about militant sexuality and who gives a shit with what you do with what's between your legs. Grow the fuck up. This ain't the place.

 

 

It seems that some of you are off in your own La-La land, and yet you blame Amy for being in hers. You can say another man's shirt is dirty, but that doesn't make your shirt clean.

 

If the shoe fits, wear it. If not, then what's your problem??

 

Now I, being a discerning reader, would like to know what was so "militantly sexual" about Greygirl and Lady Fractal's posts. Because, from what I can see, they were being light-hearted and silly, which is certainly not unusual on these boards.

 

Now, in response to duderonomy's most recent post in this thread:

 

LadyF;

 

Firstly, you seem to be an idiot. Read girl, read.

 

You want a flame war, or do you want an understanding?

You just contradicted yourself. You claim to take the high road, yet insult someone who, as far as I can tell, placed no malice in any of her posts? Yeah, real smart there, buddy.

 

If you are unclear, it may be because you see what you want to see.

 

Man, such hatred. You just can't give it up, can you?

Methinks someone's projecting....

 

Your anger is so obvious and your questions so weak, that it might take a week or two for you to build up enough steam to make me look bad.

You're doing a pretty bang-up job of that yourself, dude.

 

 

 

 

 

 

...And the only reason I'm putting my two cents in at all, is because I find this Internet Drama amusing. Silly intrawebz kiddiez. :D

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LadyF;

 

Firstly, you seem to be an idiot. Read girl, read.

 

You are the one that doesn't know what P.C. means. But I am supposed to follow all that is proper.

 

Well, I expect you to be civilized--yes. Civilized means that one goes out of ones' way to avoid giving offense needlessly and without prevarication. And the term "PC" has come up several times, in several contexts on this board and I'm just curious as to what people mean by it. I asked you an entirely straight-forward question to which your response was:

 

 

LadyF... I'm not sure myself what P.C. is,

 

Now, I haven't used the term PC on this board. I know what *I* know what I mean by it but I have a sense that we are using the term in fundamentally different ways. So I asked for clarification.

 

You want a flame war, or do you want an understanding? If you are unclear, it may be because you see what you want to see.

 

Man, such hatred. You just can't give it up, can you?

 

Would you mind telling me precisely what I have said to you, my late-night shot across your bow not-with-standing, that was hateful? Please, not your interpretation but copy and paste whatever it is I said that was hateful even by a very generous interpretation of my words. If, in fact, I said something entirely unfair I will be absolutely apologize for it.

 

Now, do I *want* a flame-war? No, I would prefer you simply answer the rather straight-forward questions put to you, put an end this dialogue as quickly as possible and then give we give one another a wide-berth on the board because it seems to me that you are so prickly and thin-skinned that porcupines look at you and say "damn, Mammal! Chill the hell out!" You seem to labor under the illusion that this message board is your own private Idaho and that you have some kind of unassailable right to come in these forums and make whatever kind of ass of yourself that your keyboard and bandwidth will allow and that all the rest of us are somehow obligated because you are a wounded ex-Christian to just nod our heads and put up with it. Now, I see no reason why that should be the case. You seem more prickly than most but you seem no more wounded than anyone else.

 

My initial post was calm, measured and reasonable. I asked you a couple of questions. Let you know that your comments were out of line, and--anticipating precisely the reaction and response to it you are evidencing let you know that your attempts at getting me to lose my cool would be futile on your part. See, I don't underestimate you but you underestimate me, Dude. If anything I overestimated you because I thought, after making it clear that I wasn't going to fall into the trap that rrcanna did, thus allowing you to play the victim, you'd have been a man about it, made your apologies and attempted to make some kind of peace regardless of your unfocused anger at the world for whatever condition your life is in. Obviously I made a judgment about your maturity that is manifestly not in evidence.

 

Now, we can continue to go around and around like this for a few days. You can continue to make a fool of yourself in front of the Flying Spaghetti Monster and everybody by playing the victim, claiming that my posts are hateful (which they aren't) and angry (which they also aren't) and eventually petulantly claim victory even though you've scored no points *or* you can drop this. I--and most likely everyone else--would probably prefer that you do the latter but the smart money is that you will once *again* attempt to insult my intelligence (even though I've told you that it is futile to do so), claim that my posts are hateful (although I have been only very mildly insulting) and angry (even though there is nothing in my posts to even insinuate that I might be anything more than midlly amused and playing with you the way that a cat plays with a mouse--which is precisely what I'm doing). YOU are obviously angry, Dude because you have a chip on your shoulder the size of a Sequoia. I'm amusing myself with you because I choose to.

 

Now which is it to be, boyo? You going to come back with yet another "why are you being so hateful" post or are you going to do the "I'm the Biggest of Big Dogs and when I come back in my triumphant return, that'll be your ass" or are you going to actually do the intelligent thing and simply back off?

 

Cheers

lf

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Ladyfractal......I love you. :wub:

 

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:HaHa:Here we go again! :rolleyes:

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Ladyfractal......I love you. :wub:

 

:mellow:

 

:HaHa:Here we go again! :rolleyes:

 

I want to get in on this love nest too.

Everytime I read LF's posts, I'm blown away.

Hell, I think we should just start a club with LF admirers.

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Ladyfractal......I love you. :wub:

 

:mellow:

 

:HaHa:Here we go again! :rolleyes:

 

I want to get in on this love nest too.

Everytime I read LF's posts, I'm blown away.

Hell, I think we should just start a club with LF admirers.

 

Membership dues can be paid directly to me. All proceeds will go directly toward LF and I getting all drunk and militant at the dyke bar this weekend. :wicked:

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LadyF...

 

You've placed yourself in a good position. Anything I say now will be placed at my door as "yet another 'Why are you being so hateful' post".

 

Why do you bring up your "Post-Fu"? To show me how smart you are and I am not? If my posts are so much water off a duck's back to you, then why do you keep responding to them? Are you trying to save me by shaming me? I think I've explained myself reasonably well here, and you seem to want to keep pouring salt into my wounds by making yourself seem so superior to me. Maybe you are, I don't know.

 

In all my searching and reading in the last couple of weeks, the best description of how I feel of late is right here on Ex-C, in an essay called 'not ready to be nice'.

 

I thought that this place was here to support wounded ex-christians., but it seems to me that you have come to single-handedly change all that. I really don't know why you dislike me so, but I'm glad that at least I can 'bemuse you'.

 

You want to keep it going? Fine, then it's on. But then don't pretend to take the mature position if you do. Unless you reply to this, I'm done on this thread.

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