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Tracing back to its origins, where exactly is the god-human relationship that inspired the bible as god's words?

I mean, did the authos have a sit down interview with god and then proceed to write all that crap?

How could the bible be so universally believed?

Personally, I doubt the existence of any gods but i am forever curious as to how religion is justified with the bible as its core.

I have completely stopped believing,praying and worshipping for a year now and I actually see an improvement in my life and mental well being. Now that's a prayer. Thanks

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Tracing back to its origins, where exactly is the god-human relationship that inspired the bible as god's words?

I mean, did the authos have a sit down interview with god and then proceed to write all that crap?

How could the bible be so universally believed?

Personally, I doubt the existence of any gods but i am forever curious as to how religion is justified with the bible as its core.

I have completely stopped believing,praying and worshipping for a year now and I actually see an improvement in my life and mental well being. Now that's a prayer. Thanks

Be assured there are as many and varied ways of viewing Biblical inspiration in Chrisitianity as there are shades to the rainbow. I'm hoping to put together some sort of timeline on the evolution of these ideas at some point in the near future. I doubt it will happen over the next few weeks however.

 

You make a good point thought how that when you look to yourself, you get better answers to prayer! I'll amen that one with you. :grin:

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If God dictated the bible, he must have also been the chairman of the board during all the meetings to decide what would be canonical and what would be trash. In the early stages of christianity, they questioned the authenticity of Hebrews. And James. And Revelation.

 

While, at the same time, the Didache, Barnabas, and Shepherd of Hermas were widely accepted as God-inspired.

 

I think the theology, as it evolved, drove the acceptance or non-acceptance. When you look at it, it's all such a human process. The bible has fingerprints all over it. And none of them are God-sized.

 

The first record we have of anything that resembles the current NT is in 367 CE from Athanasius. (OVER 300 YEARS from the supposed time of the Jesus legend)

 

Took a very long time and a couple of Roman Emperor's decrees to finally figure out what God actually wrote.

 

If you want to see how many early writings didn't make the cut, check out earlychristianwritings.com.

 

You'll find that christianity for the first couple of centuries CE were a hodgepodge of varied beliefs and practices, some of them bearing no resemblance to what the religion is today.

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How could the bible be so universally believed?

 

That one isn't so hard. All you need to do to see how a religion is begun and how it grows is to look at Mormonism.

 

One charismatic guy with beaucoup imagination and a penchant for creative writing. Joseph Smith. Gets the ball rolling with some magical hocus-pocus shit. A few join in. A little persecution comes into the picture to really develop determination in the believers.

 

The believers have kids. Raise em from birth in the faith. The kids have kids. (lots of kids). Raise em in the faith. Generation after generation of believers growing exponentially. Lots of money and coerced compulsion for missionary activity.

 

Before you know it, we have millions of people believing in magical golden plates and urim and thummim mystical reading glasses. (and that a man walked across a lake)

 

And, it's only been 150 years in the making.

 

It has absolutely nothing to do with the truth or deity dictation.

 

Just human gullibility.

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If God dictated the bible, he must have also If you want to see how many early writings didn't make the cut, check out earlychristianwritings.com.

 

You'll find that christianity for the first couple of centuries CE were a hodgepodge of varied beliefs and practices, some of them bearing no resemblance to what the religion is today.

 

 

I will check out that site. Thanks

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How could the bible be so universally believed?

Considering there are 8 different biblical canons in the world, this very fact demonstrate how Christian cannot get their act together and decide which book is inspired by God and which is not.

 

Currently the Catholic Canon still the most popular I suppose.

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Isis + Ra + El = the god of israel
:eek: Yes, but what if Isis and Ra don't want to play with El? Maybe they both decided they wanted nothing to do with El's egotistic silliness and wandered off to be freelance gods. (There ya have it, folks: Yet another reason for prayers not getting answered.)
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Be assured there are as many and varied ways of viewing Biblical inspiration in Chrisitianity as there are shades to the rainbow. I'm hoping to put together some sort of timeline on the evolution of these ideas at some point in the near future. I doubt it will happen over the next few weeks however.

 

This would be a fascinating timeline to look at. In fact, it would make a great book.

 

Clearly, views of scripture have evolved, changed, gone back and forth. For example, I absolutely cannot believe that St. Paul had any idea that any of the letters he wrote would one day be quoted the same way he quoted from the Hebrew Bible. Did it ever cross his mind that he was writing scripture? I'm not saying his words should not be treated with deep respect by Christians and be considered very carefully by those who want to follow Jesus, just that I don't see him knowing that his letter to Timothy would be quoted 2,000 years later by Americans who want to mold American in the image in which they have molded the image of God.

 

Seems to me.

 

-CC in MA

 

 

I think the theology, as it evolved, drove the acceptance or non-acceptance. When you look at it, it's all such a human process. The bible has fingerprints all over it. And none of them are God-sized.

 

The process of establishing a canon was very much a human process. (It's terribly interesting to me how God -- speaking as a theist -- leaves so much -- everything? -- in our hands.)

 

-CC in MA

 

 

How could the bible be so universally believed?

Considering there are 8 different biblical canons in the world, this very fact demonstrate how Christian cannot get their act together and decide which book is inspired by God and which is not.

 

Currently the Catholic Canon still the most popular I suppose.

 

There are many canons, but generally the doctrines culled form the writings not universally accepted are minor in nature. I remember the first time I read the Apocryphal writings. It was like I was looking at porn or something -- forbidden texts!

 

I'm glad we have this diversity of texts available and I think it's great to have all of those early Christian writings as well, and the Dead Sea Scrolls and Nag Hammadi texts, too.

 

Shakes things up a bit!

 

-CC in MA

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