Guest eternitynorm Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 The Kingdom Message of Salvation is the Truth and validity of the Bible as a whole. As ministers with the Light of Life Ministry, we are doing as we are commanded within the Scriptures. Because we have been enlightened to the Truth, we have a heavy responsibility to pursue our Ministries. 1 Corinthians 9:16 warns of the necessity and woe to those that do not declare the Good News. "For if I preach the gospel, I have no reason to boast, because an obligation is placed on me. And woe to me if I do not preach the gospel!" This is because once we have acquired Wisdom about the Truth, it is our duty to spread the message as far as we can over all of creation. If we fail to warn others, the Creator holds us accountable. To walk away is to be overshadowed with Negative Energy. Ezekiel 3:17-18 gives insight on this. "Son of man, I have made you a watchman over the house of Israel. When you hear a word from My mouth, give them a warning from Me. If I say to the wicked person: You will surely die, but you do not warn him—you don't speak out to warn him about his wicked way in order to save his life—that wicked person will die for his iniquity. Yet I will hold you responsible for his blood.” OUR MESSAGE OF TRUTH The main theme of our Message of Truth is that those who wish to have eternal life must declare Jesus Christ to be Lord and Savior. This must be done in order to be one with His coming Kingdom. We realize that many will challenge our faith and the faith of others who also declare Jesus to be Lord. They will say that we must meet certain requirements of water baptism, a belief in the Trinity and other man-made religious ideals. If those people are of some positive energy, they will see the Light. If not, they will remain opposed to what is ministered to them. That is their Free Will choice. Even if they claim to be foot-step followers of Christ, they will be deemed not worthy of Salvation unless they exhibit the Holy Spirit from within them. If they believe falsehoods about Christ, cling to their man-made religious belief systems and exhibit no signs of positive energy, they will be marked accordingly by the Cherubic Order of Angels. All people are judged by what is really in their hearts. As part of our Ministry to those that oppose the Truth, we point out that a humble heart is the only thing that saves anyone. Without it, you are endowed with negative energy. What your heart is filled with is what springs forth with abundance from the mouth. Luke 6:45 is clear on this point: “A good man produces good out of the good storeroom of his heart. An evil man produces evil out of the evil storeroom, for his mouth speaks from the overflow of the heart.” Proverbs 4:23 is clear on the need to safeguard your heart against the wickedness of negative energy being stored there: “Guard your heart above all else, for it is the source of life.” By knowing and understanding the Truth of the Word, you treasure up within your hearts that of positive energy. That's what guides you (the Holy Spirit - Positive energy) so that you do not sin knowingly against Christ or his Father. “I have treasured Your word in my heart so that I may not sin against You.” Psalms 119:11. The problem with sin is that it cultivates negative energy. From the mind where it begins or originates, it creeps down into your heart. Then you're in trouble. That's why it's not a sin to think a bad thought, if you dismiss it. You did not act on it. Therefore, it is not a sin. But if you dwell on the wrong thought, it will creep on down into your heart and become a part of you. So, above all else, safeguard your hearts. WHAT ABOUT WATER BAPTISM? It is not necessary to be baptized in water to be saved. Jesus Christ was the forerunner. In Christ's Ministry, baptism in water was used to anoint him by his Father. It was continued by his disciples, because he had not yet ascended to Heaven, and had not yet received the Kingdom Authority that would later be bestowed upon him by his Father Yahweh. Once that had been fully accomplished, the Light of Truth became the baptism via the Light of Christ. The Savior's instructions given at Matthew 28:19-20, you see the baptism it speaks of is a baptism of Holy Spirit. "Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe everything I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you always, to the end of the age." This takes place when one truly comes to understand the Father of Jesus Christ and accept Him as Truth. Water is no longer necessary to be sanctified. The purpose of baptism before Christ was to symbolize the shedding of one's former ways of sinful conduct. That was sanctification. Now, the baptism of sanctification is done as mentioned above. The Holy Ghost transformation is performed through the Light of Christ. WILL YOU BE DAMNED IF NOT BAPTISED IN WATER? Children pass over without water baptism. Some die at birth or are aborted. The children have special status with the Creator. They are not damned and neither are adults that are not water baptized. What would happen if you were shipwrecked for the remainder of you life? How could God justify not giving you a chance to learn His Sovereign Will at transition? The only requirement for Christ’s salvation is that of a humble heart. Once you are with Christ, he knows your humble heart will accept him. When you passed through his Light, you were then baptized as a Holy Ghost. The water baptism would be nil in Christ's eyes. It is the HEART that Saves. Nothing else can get you into the Kingdom unless your heart is of Positive energy. Yahweh Himself reveals this at Jeremiah 17:10. “I, the LORD, examine the mind, I test the heart to give to each according to his way, according to what his actions deserve.” If the heart were not the thing of importance, He would not search it. It is not the outward appearance that Saves, but what is hidden deep within the heart. ALL POSITIVE ENERGY PEOPLE ARE ACCEPTABLE People of all nationalities, regardless of race, color or religion are open to the Salvation of Christ. “Then I saw another angel flying in mid-heaven, having the eternal gospel to announce to the inhabitants of the earth—to every nation, tribe, language, and people.” Revelation 14:6. “Hear this, all you peoples; listen, all who inhabit the world, both low and high, rich and poor together.” Psalms 49:1-2. “Then Peter began to speak: "In truth, I understand that God doesn't show favoritism, but in every nation the person who fears Him and does righteousness is acceptable to Him.” Acts 10:34-35. REMEMBER - IT'S A FREE WILL CHOICE Everyone has Free Will Choice in the decision and are able to choose one way or the other. That's why we will not try to force the Truth on to anyone. “I call heaven and earth as witnesses against you today that I have set before you life and death, blessing and curse. Choose life so that you and your descendants may live, love the LORD your God, obey Him, and remain faithful to Him. For He is your life, and He will prolong your life in the land the LORD swore to give to your fathers Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.” Deuteronomy 30:19-20 “But if it doesn't please you to worship the LORD, choose for yourselves today the one you will worship: the gods your fathers worshiped beyond the Euphrates River, or the gods of the Amorites in whose land you are living. As for me and my family, we will worship the LORD.” Joshua 24:15 “If you carefully obey My commands I am giving you today, to love the LORD your God and worship Him with all your heart and all your soul, I will provide rain for your land in season, the early and late rains, and you will harvest your grain, new wine, and oil. I will provide grass in your fields for your livestock. You will eat and be satisfied. Be careful that you are not enticed to turn aside, worship, and bow down to other gods. Then the LORD's anger will burn against you. He will close the sky, and there will be no rain; the land will not yield its produce, and you will perish quickly from the good land the LORD is giving you.” Deuteronomy 11:13-17 “This is how we are sure that we have come to know Him: by keeping His commands.” 1 John 2:3 SALVATION - KINGDOM MESSAGE COMPLETED Now, either you will accept or reject the Truth we have ministered to you. Since everyone should come to understand that actions result in consequences, we deliver the following warning. If you decide to refuse the truth, then you will know what is ahead--even if you reject that also, at this time. Later on, you will see our words come to life. If you accept the Truth now but are later tempted to cultivate a negative energy within your heart, then the warning we share might help to prevent that from happening. YAHWEH'S BITTER-SWEET WARNING TO ALL PEOPLE OF THE EARTH He that exercises faith in the Son has everlasting life. He that disobeys the Son will not see life. The Wrath of God remains upon him. “The one who believes in the Son has eternal life, but the one who refuses to believe in the Son will not see life; instead, the wrath of God remains on him.” John 3:36 Once you have been given the Message of Truth, if you do not obey it you are exercising your Free Will choice. However, it will result in eternal death at the Judgment. Just as Satan and his angels cannot have free reign in creation - neither will it be permitted of those that exercise that choice. Your fate is upon your own head. “Therefore I testify to you this day that I am innocent of everyone's blood, for I did not shrink back from declaring to you the whole plan of God.” Acts 20:26-27 The above scripture reveals we will be clean from the blood of those who make the wrong choice. If you are so cultivated with negative energy that you hear and know that what we speak is Truth and you continue to sin willfully by rejecting that Truth, then you will lose the Sacrificial Hope of Salvation. Time will eventually run out. Armageddon is the final Judgment Chapter. “For if we deliberately sin after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins” Hebrews 10:26 "to proclaim the year of the LORD's favor, and the day of our God's vengeance..." Isaiah 61:2 "The tumult reaches to the ends of the earth because the LORD brings a case against the nations. He enters into judgment with all flesh. As for the wicked, He hands them over to the sword [This is] the LORD's declaration." Jeremiah 25:31 "I tell you that on the day of judgment people will have to account for every careless word they speak." Matthew 12:36 "When I say to the wicked, 'O wicked man, you will surely die,' and you do not speak out to dissuade him from his ways, that wicked man will die for his sin, and I will hold you accountable for his blood." Ezekiel 33:8 WHO WE MINISTER TO AND SANCTIFICATON OF THE CREATOR'S NAME This GOOD NEWS of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth and bear witness to all the nations. The nations will be made to know Yahweh. His Name must be sanctified before the nations. “I will honor the holiness of My great name, which has been profaned among the nations—the name you have profaned among them. The nations will know that I am Yahweh"—the declaration of the Lord GOD —"when I demonstrate My holiness through you in their sight.” Ezekiel 36:23 “So I will make My holy name known among My people Israel and will no longer allow it to be profaned. Then the nations will know that I am the LORD, the Holy One in Israel.” Ezekiel 39:7 ARE THERE ANY FREE RIDES TO ETERNAL BLISS? Anyone that believes they can get a free ride through eternity without going through Christ, please read: “There is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to people by which we must be saved.” Acts 4:12 Once you have received the Truth, you are under obligation by the Creator. “Wisdom is supreme—so get wisdom. And whatever else you get, get understanding.” Proverbs 4:7 Your Sisters in Christ, The Ministers of the Light of Life Ministry Light Of Life End Times Truths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astreja Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 All religions are manmade. The Bible is a sorry mess riddled with contradictions. Yahweh is an arrogant, sadistic, egotistical and bloodthirsty bastard. Your "Good News" is nothing of the sort. And the name of this message board is EX-Christian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuroikaze Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I think I speak for everyone here when I say....What the hell? in your title you write "allign yourself with no man made religion" Then procede to argue that we should align ourselves with christianity. You seem to not realize where you are, we have all been there before and left because we decided that chrsitianity was ANOTHER man made religion. You have two major problems with your post...first you fail to show that christianity is NOT man made, second you fail to show that all other religions ARE man made. Of course thats just for starters....truthfully I didn't even read the whole thing because what I read contained nothing I hadn't heard 1000 times before. I've read the whole bible along with most major christian theologins in the past 2000 years. If that didn't convince me (and indeed it made me more convinced that christianity was man made), then how much chance do you think you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willybilly30 Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 You said all religions are acceptable: quote "People of all nationalities, regardless of race, color or religion are open to the Salvation of Christ." Then you say you need christ? what if my religion says it's total bullshit? Free will? what a crock. I don't get where christians get the idea that the religion has any freewill the bible is littered with threats of eternal damnation to anyone not a christian. Plant all the pretty roses in it you want but it still smells like shit too me. Jesus never existed he's nothing more than a made up legend that's been passed around. No historical proof what so ever. There's plenty of negitivity in the bible good luck trying to beutify it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piprus Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 The OP in this thread would have to be the veritable mother of all Ka-Ka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♦ nivek ♦ Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 Is "Lion's Den". Eat this characters lunch and give him the tab.. kFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin webmdave Posted October 24, 2006 Admin Share Posted October 24, 2006 http://mb.sparknotes.com/mb.epl?b=50&m...=347334&w=1 Copy and paste -- no thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willybilly30 Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 EternityNorm you do know copying someone elses stuff and pretending its your own is copyright infrigment and you can be sued don't you? Just thought you should know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycorth Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 EternityNorm you do know copying someone elses stuff and pretending its your own is copyright infrigment and you can be sued don't you? Just thought you should know. Considering that the moronic religion of Xianity is basically a cut-and-paste job, fashioned out of disparate parts of Judaism and local Pagan religions, this should come as no surprise. Jebus can suck Odin's spear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willybilly30 Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 I just noticed he joined today just to post this message and has said nothing else. Probally a hit n run poster. That makes sense that he copy n pasted someone elses stuff it's a christian tradition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♦ nivek ♦ Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 As per the stated Rule on "plagerism" found Here , the poster in question issued one of a Collectors Series "Strikes" to add to his toybox of netthings. kFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanda Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 Eternity Norm, you probably have good intentions... but, do you think you are strong enough to have an open mind? "For if I preach the gospel, I have no reason to boast, because an obligation is placed on me. And woe to me if I do not preach the gospel!" If what you are saying is the gospel, let's see if you are brave enough to substantiate your position here. My bet is that you don't come back, and you've already run away. I don't know why anyone here lets people put their first post as a topic, to evangelize and run away. This site probably has too good of a heart. ---------- "Son of man, I have made you a watchman over the house of Israel. When you hear a word from My mouth, give them a warning from Me. If I say to the wicked person: You will surely die, but you do not warn him—you don't speak out to warn him about his wicked way in order to save his life—that wicked person will die for his iniquity. Yet I will hold you responsible for his blood.” Have you ever thought this might be applied to you? --------------------------------------------- The main theme of our Message of Truth is that those who wish to have eternal life must declare Jesus Christ to be Lord and Savior. This must be done in order to be one with His coming Kingdom. Does this mean Ghandi won't make it? --------------------------------------------- As part of our Ministry to those that oppose the Truth, we point out that a humble heart is the only thing that saves anyone. Without it, you are endowed with negative energy. What your heart is filled with is what springs forth with abundance from the mouth. Luke 6:45 is clear on this point: “A good man produces good out of the good storeroom of his heart. An evil man produces evil out of the evil storeroom, for his mouth speaks from the overflow of the heart.” Sincerely, are you brave enough to look in the mirror? ------------------------------------------- Proverbs 4:23 is clear on the need to safeguard your heart against the wickedness of negative energy being stored there: “Guard your heart above all else, for it is the source of life.” I know, that's why people here will want you to leave, so please change. “I have treasured Your word in my heart so that I may not sin against You.” Psalms 119:11. The problem with sin is that it cultivates negative energy. From the mind where it begins or originates, it creeps down into your heart. Then you're in trouble. That's why it's not a sin to think a bad thought, if you dismiss it. You did not act on it. Therefore, it is not a sin. But if you dwell on the wrong thought, it will creep on down into your heart and become a part of you. So, above all else, safeguard your hearts. Looks like you've had problems in this area? --------------------------------- This takes place when one truly comes to understand the Father of Jesus Christ and accept Him as Truth. Okay, Truth should stand on its own. Willing to test your version? ---------------------------------- WILL YOU BE DAMNED IF NOT BAPTISED IN WATER? Children pass over without water baptism. Some die at birth or are aborted. The children have special status with the Creator. Hmmmm.... how do you know this, are you the creator of this idea? -------------------------------- “I, the LORD, examine the mind, I test the heart to give to each according to his way, according to what his actions deserve.” If the heart were not the thing of importance, He would not search it. It is not the outward appearance that Saves, but what is hidden deep within the heart. Hello? Did you look in the mirror yet? What does your post say about you? --------------------------------- Everyone has Free Will Choice in the decision and are able to choose one way or the other. That's why we will not try to force the Truth on to anyone. You say that, but how can that be free will if you don't do as I say, you'll go to a burning pit? No free will there! Think about it. ------------------------------------------- Now, either you will accept or reject the Truth we have ministered to you. Oh, we must accept your version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 This message can not be sent because the recipient has their personal messenger disabled or their personal messenger inbox is full. they are a.. DICK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverbank Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 *sigh* now that I've come realise all the flaws of christianity and all the things that don't add up, it seems kinda strange that people still believe all this shit. eternitynorm, I will reject your gospel message and want nothing to do with Jesus or Yahweh. Screw them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlerman Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 I don't suspect this "person" will be back. He/She/It was here for themselves, not for us. Their motive was not out of genuine human concern, but trying to get brownie points for themselves with their chosen diety. Thank you for confirming every reason why I reject your religious beliefs with every fiber of my humanity. You want a real discussion, then lets talk about why you are so out of touch with your humanity and hide behind these doctrines of men. Impress me, and don't be a post-and-run religious masturbator. Show you're a person and not a robot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amethyst Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 Sigh... Why is it that fundies cannot even come up with their own arguments? I am constantly amazed at the level of stupidity I see from them. Blatant plagarism is moronic. Funny, I also thought thou shalt not steal was one of the 10 commandments. At least, I remember being taught that. If you can't even follow your own rules, how do you expect to convert anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramen666 Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 Wow he won't last long, one of those Bible breathing people. Well if he comes back I am up for our next victim. I want to debate someone however I will answer to this (doubt he will come back) But here is my response: The Bible was written by man. The vary man God said is sinful,lying and corrupt. Jesus didn't even write a chapter (what a bitch) The Bible has contradictions ( You will say no it doesn't) God is perfect, yet he created unperfect things? God knows everything, thus he knew men would sin. Hell was created by God, so was Satan God let's Satan screw with our minds. Remember I said LETS Adam and Eve could speak (Parseltounge) ( I hope someone gets that joke) Jesus died, yet we still sin and could be damned. God is all powerful, yet he does nothing (hmmmmmm) God has broken 4 of the 7 deadly sins. ( He doesn't sin I thought) God is loving yet ge watches billions and billions of people burn in hell for all eternity. God likes wrath and pain (who is the good guy?) Jesus fits all the requirements as antichrist (I think Jesus could of been the antichrist) Hurricane Katrina, London fires (long ago), 9/11 , Pearl Harbor, WWI and WWII, Iraq War, Children burning to death in buildings, Holocaust (the most disgusting thing in all history), Steve Irwins death should not of happend. All of this above proves there is no God. Corruption in Religion Breaking off the Catholic Church ( No your religion wasn't always the religion, everyone should be Catholic) Priests molesting children (where was God?) WWJD? (Good question, he would do nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willybilly30 Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 I just noticed his description of this topic in the topic list is alighn with no manmade religion. NewsFlash dude jesus was a man he made the religion "manmade" lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanda Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 I don't suspect this "person" will be back. He/She/It was here for themselves, not for us. Their motive was not out of genuine human concern, but trying to get brownie points for themselves with their chosen diety. I agree. I'm curous to know why these people can make their first post/s their own topic? It seems to me these 'hit and runs' happen quite often here, by fundamentalists. Is it because they know they don't have the answers to the questions they will be asked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piprus Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 I don't suspect this "person" will be back. He/She/It was here for themselves, not for us. Their motive was not out of genuine human concern, but trying to get brownie points for themselves with their chosen diety. I agree. I'm curous to know why these people can make their first post/s their own topic? It seems to me these 'hit and runs' happen quite often here, by fundamentalists. Is it because they know they don't have the answers to the questions they will be asked? I think it's just warm 'n' fuzzie stuff, for them. It's part of that "witnessing", "home missions", "spread the good news", you know, all that "devotion" stuff. So they can go back into their groups, tell their tales of "outreach", admire each others' piety and work fer the lard, and psychologically rub off on each other, thankin' the lard for his many blessings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jun Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 Adam and Eve could speak (Parseltongue) (I hope someone gets that joke) Ha ha ha, that's cool! I'll have to remember that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everglaze Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 Ramen666 basically hit the best damn statements for Christians. I don't know why these idiot fundies come around here and sign up only to post one topic that has no effect on us whatsoever. It's redundantly annoying. The fact that they don't even return makes me wonder if they just want to piss us off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythra Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Well I'll be a sum bitch. That guy went to all the trouble to cut-&-paste God's message to mankind, and not one of you hardened sinners have felt the tug on your heart strings. Well fuck it. Add one more. Bite me, you biblebot zombie, you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jun Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 they just want to piss us off. Why should it piss you off? You already know the truth of the matter. You should be smiling to yourself and thinking, "Well, that poor sod still doesn't get it, and probably never will." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everglaze Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 they just want to piss us off. Why should it piss you off? You already know the truth of the matter. You should be smiling to yourself and thinking, "Well, that poor sod still doesn't get it, and probably never will." Annoyance can piss me off. Some people may be able to just laugh at them, but me? I want to yell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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