Reverend AtheiStar Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 http://www.world-science.net/othernews/061129_astro-calc.htm Ancient sky calculator awes scientists Nov. 29, 2006 Courtesy Cardiff University and World Science staff A group of scientists claims to have unravelled the secrets of a 2,000-year-old computer, which they say could transform the way we think about the ancient world. Mike Edmunds and Tony Freeth of Cardiff University in Cardiff, U.K., led the team whose members believe they have finally cracked the workings of the Antikythera Mechanism, a clock-like astronomical calculator from the second century B.C. Courtesy Jo Marchant, Nature -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Divers exploring a shipwreck off the island of Antikythera at the turn of the 20th century found remnants of a broken wooden and bronze case containing more than 30 gears. Scientists have been trying to reconstruct it ever since. The new research suggests it is more sophisticated than anyone thought. Detailed study of the gears show the mechanism could track astronomical movements with remarkable precision, Edmunds and colleagues said. The device could follow the sun’s and moon’s movements through the Zodiac, a belt-like region of the heavens surrounding the plane of the earth’s orbit and of the sun’s apparent annual path. The machine could also predict eclipses and recreate the irregular orbit of the moon, the researchers said, and might have predicted the positions of some or all of the planets. The findings suggest Greek technology was far more advanced than previously thought, Edmunds and Freeth said: no other civilisation is known to have made anything as complicated for another thousand years. “This device is just extraordinary, the only thing of its kind. The design is beautiful, the astronomy is exactly right. The way the mechanics are designed just makes your jaw drop. Whoever has done this has done it extremely well,” Edmunds said. The team used a new, powerful X-Ray computer technology to help them study corroded fragments of the machine. Computer giant Hewlett-Packard Corp. provided imaging technology to enhance the surface details of the machine. The mechanism is in over 80 pieces and stored in controlled conditions in Athens where it cannot be touched. Recreating its workings was a difficult, painstaking process, involving astronomers, mathematicians, computer experts, script analysts and conservation experts, Edmunds and colleagues said. The team is to unveil its full findings at a two-day international conference in Athens from November 30 to December 1. The research also appears in the Nov. 30 issue of the journal Nature. The researchers are now hoping to create a computer model of how the machine worked, and, in time, a full working replica. It is still uncertain what the ancient Greeks used the mechanism for, or how widespread this technology was, they said. “It does raise the question what else were they making at the time. In terms of historic and scarcity value, I have to regard this mechanism as being more valuable than the Mona Lisa,” Edmunds said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexton Blake Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 About forty years ago, using one of a number of small jars found with metal rods in them in a pyramid chamber, scientists added some (slightly acid) grape juice to try out what they suspected, and got a small but noticeable electric current (about a volt as I remember) flowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlerman Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 About forty years ago, using one of a number of small jars found with metal rods in them in a pyramid chamber, scientists added some (slightly acid) grape juice to try out what they suspected, and got a small but noticeable electric current (about a volt as I remember) flowing. I think it's a long way from a mechanical device like this, and the new age speculation surrounding the "Rods of Ra", being for the following purpose: The "conventional" theory is that the statues are holding "scrolls" in their hands. This ridiculous explanation is contradicted by obvious observation and by the evidence. Actual Egyptian Rods have been found, analyzed, and displayed from time to time at many Egyptian exhibitions and museums. Shown to the right is a photograph of the actual Rods of Pharaoh Pepi II (last ruler of the 6th dynasty, 2150 - 2134) which were displayed at the Metropolitan Museum. Note the dis-similar materials, copper and zinc, and the removable carbonite core. Research indicates that copper and zinc Rods filled with charcoal, magnetite, quartz crystals or other special materials seem to have certain energetic qualities that provided the ancient Egyptian ruling class a means of connecting directly with the energy systems of the human body and the universal energy of deliberate creation . This allowed a powerful point of focus for the work of balance and self-perfection. (from here: http://www.rodsofra.com/what_are.htm Emotional editorializing comments in red, my emphasis to contrast with real science. Also you can buy these harmonizing sticks from the same web site, incidently ) I don't know, I might be wrong but I suspect the "research" surrounding these is not at all on the same level of professionalism that is seen in the device they just found. I could also easily say of this device above, "the 'conventional' theory is..." and then offer up some wild speculation that it was the unlocking device for the doors of Atlantis that once deciphered will bring about a harmonic convergence and world peace, but that would have little support other than my own superficial comparisons I would layer on it to make it sound plausible. Do you have any supporting research from credible scientists that these were used for an ancient New Age type healing device? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycorth Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Excellent and fascinating invention - another testimony to the wisdom of the ancient Greeks... the non-Abrahamic ancient Greeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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