Metroplex Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 Pope turns to Mecca at Istanbul The Australian ^ | December 1, 2006 | From correspondents in Istanbul Posted on 11/30/2006 5:15:20 PM PST by M. Thatcher AFTER offending the Muslim world by linking their religion with violence, Pope Benedict XVI, in an exceptional gesture, turned towards Mecca in an attitude of Muslim prayer at the Blue Mosque in Istanbul today, Turkish state television showed. Benedict XVI, who became the second Pope in history - after John Paul II in Damascus in 2001 - to set foot in a Muslim house of worship, made the gesture at the suggestion of Istanbul Mufti Mustafa Cagrici, his guide for the occasion. The Pope's spokesman, Federico Lombardi, was quick to point out to journalists afterwards that the Pope had not actually prayed but was "in meditation". After explaining the basics of Muslim prayer to the pontiff during the early part of the tour, Cagrici said: "Let us turn toward the Kiblah" - the direction of Mecca, which all Muslims must face when they perform their five-time-a-day prayers. The Pope complied. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Even if he didn't 'pray' he is still worshipping in a way, funny how instead of pointing the errors of their ways to Muslims as Jesus said "he is the ONLY way to God" not Muhammed... he kinds of accepts their religion, I know that Christianity is bullshit too but the interfaith and 'all religions point to God' lie must be stopped, Muslims and Christians don't worhip the SAME God, and in fact Islam denies christianity and many of its tenets, the Pope is a fool thinking that they can both worship together as this is akin to idolatry and worhipping unkown gods.... Comments anyone? p.s. His predecessor John Paul 2, was no better, he too was an apostate, idol worshipper, check out this pic: http://www.truecatholic.org/nop/jp2koran.htm As George Bush Jnr said: "Either you are with us OR you are with the terrorists..." there is no middle ground, the pope is a traitor to Catholics, not that I care! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
currentchristian Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 Pope turns to Mecca at Istanbul The Australian ^ | December 1, 2006 | From correspondents in Istanbul Posted on 11/30/2006 5:15:20 PM PST by M. Thatcher AFTER offending the Muslim world by linking their religion with violence, Pope Benedict XVI, in an exceptional gesture, turned towards Mecca in an attitude of Muslim prayer at the Blue Mosque in Istanbul today, Turkish state television showed. Benedict XVI, who became the second Pope in history - after John Paul II in Damascus in 2001 - to set foot in a Muslim house of worship, made the gesture at the suggestion of Istanbul Mufti Mustafa Cagrici, his guide for the occasion. The Pope's spokesman, Federico Lombardi, was quick to point out to journalists afterwards that the Pope had not actually prayed but was "in meditation". After explaining the basics of Muslim prayer to the pontiff during the early part of the tour, Cagrici said: "Let us turn toward the Kiblah" - the direction of Mecca, which all Muslims must face when they perform their five-time-a-day prayers. The Pope complied. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Even if he didn't 'pray' he is still worshipping in a way, funny how instead of pointing the errors of their ways to Muslims as Jesus said "he is the ONLY way to God" not Muhammed... he kinds of accepts their religion, I know that Christianity is bullshit too but the interfaith and 'all religions point to God' lie must be stopped, Muslims and Christians don't worhip the SAME God, and in fact Islam denies christianity and many of its tenets, the Pope is a fool thinking that they can both worship together as this is akin to idolatry and worhipping unkown gods.... Comments anyone? p.s. His predecessor John Paul 2, was no better, he too was an apostate, idol worshipper, check out this pic: http://www.truecatholic.org/nop/jp2koran.htm As George Bush Jnr said: "Either you are with us OR you are with the terrorists..." there is no middle ground, the pope is a traitor to Catholics, not that I care! The position that seems reasonable to me is that all should work and play and worship together, highlighting that which is held in common and minimizing the immediate importance of that which separates them. Husbands and wives have to do this all the time! Parents and children have to do this all the time, too. Why can't religious groups do likewise in order to live in peace and harmony!? -CC in MA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jun Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Hey, it's a start. Now if this Christian king will take back all the unwarranted and bad things he said about Buddhism before he became king, that would be good. And if he took back all his crap about magic and Harry Potter author J K Rowling. And took back all the bad stuff he has said about gays, now that would be a step forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
currentchristian Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Hey, it's a start. Now if this Christian king will take back all the unwarranted and bad things he said about Buddhism before he became king, that would be good. And if he took back all his crap about magic and Harry Potter author J K Rowling. And took back all the bad stuff he has said about gays, now that would be a step forward. There is repentence and apologies to go around, from everyone to everyone, as we've all come short of the glory of ecumenism, tolerance, and respect. But we must reach these loftly heights, if we are to survive. -CC in MA BTW, the Blue Mosque, in which this "apostasy" occured, is beautiful. Here are some links to photos: http://perso.orange.fr/istanbul/blue%20mosque.jpg http://www.istanbulexcursions.com/mosques-...blue.mosque.jpg http://www.istanbulphotos.com/ist/data/med...ue_inside_s.jpg http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/W...Allen/BlueM.jpg http://www.funbeaches.com/Turkey-Greece/bl...ue-interior.jpg -CC in MA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jun Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Hey, it's a start. Now if this Christian king will take back all the unwarranted and bad things he said about Buddhism before he became king, that would be good. And if he took back all his crap about magic and Harry Potter author J K Rowling. And took back all the bad stuff he has said about gays, now that would be a step forward. There is repentence and apologies to go around, from everyone to everyone, as we've all come short of the glory of ecumenism, tolerance, and respect. But we must reach these loftly heights, if we are to survive. -CC in MA BTW, the Blue Mosque, in which this "apostasy" occured, is beautiful. Here are some links to photos: http://perso.orange.fr/istanbul/blue%20mosque.jpg http://www.istanbulexcursions.com/mosques-...blue.mosque.jpg http://www.istanbulphotos.com/ist/data/med...ue_inside_s.jpg http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/W...Allen/BlueM.jpg http://www.funbeaches.com/Turkey-Greece/bl...ue-interior.jpg -CC in MA No offense to your tastes in architecture, but I find European church/cathedral architecture to be utterly depressing and disgusting. They are like giant kings palaces resplendent in gold and opulant tiles. An obvious symbol of their wealth and power, it just goes to show that Christianity certainly does pay. Is it necessary for a bodyless spiritual other-realm dwelling "God" to have such big ornate palaces for worship? Why isn't that amount of money given to the more needy in society? Why not have austere unassuming and humble looking churches? All those gaudy spires, and gaudy statues...depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
currentchristian Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Hey, it's a start. Now if this Christian king will take back all the unwarranted and bad things he said about Buddhism before he became king, that would be good. And if he took back all his crap about magic and Harry Potter author J K Rowling. And took back all the bad stuff he has said about gays, now that would be a step forward. There is repentence and apologies to go around, from everyone to everyone, as we've all come short of the glory of ecumenism, tolerance, and respect. But we must reach these loftly heights, if we are to survive. -CC in MA BTW, the Blue Mosque, in which this "apostasy" occured, is beautiful. Here are some links to photos: http://perso.orange.fr/istanbul/blue%20mosque.jpg http://www.istanbulexcursions.com/mosques-...blue.mosque.jpg http://www.istanbulphotos.com/ist/data/med...ue_inside_s.jpg http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/W...Allen/BlueM.jpg http://www.funbeaches.com/Turkey-Greece/bl...ue-interior.jpg -CC in MA No offense to your tastes in architecture, but I find European church/cathedral architecture to be utterly depressing and disgusting. They are like giant kings palaces resplendent in gold and opulant tiles. An obvious symbol of their wealth and power, it just goes to show that Christianity certainly does pay. Is it necessary for a bodyless spiritual other-realm dwelling "God" to have such big ornate palaces for worship? Why isn't that amount of money given to the more needy in society? Why not have austere unassuming and humble looking churches? All those gaudy spires, and gaudy statues...depressing. How wonderful the different tastes we all have. It's amazing. I do see your point, however. When I was a churchgoer at rural protestant churches there was nothing ornate at all. I also like the simplicity of the Quaker meeting houses. I find mosques such as the Blue Mosque more beautiful and more inspiring than Christian cathedrals of the Middle Ages (imagine all the poor peasants who gave their lives in the construction of these earthly monuments to religious power). -CC in MA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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