Trancelation Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 gwenmead: FBX DOES sound like a real fucking piece of work. Sheesh. He'd hate me. I have no problem with women that are aware of and embrace their sexuality. It's a beautful thing. Nothing more enjoyable than a woman that loves herself, her body, and the joy of hardcore whoopie. I can't begin to dissect the idea of female "purity," but I think you hit the nail pretty hard when you talk about control. That makes a lot of sense to me. My fiance' was bought up in a Christian family, and attended a Christian private high school. And let me tell ya', they INDOCTRINATED her ass. I'm a very, very sexual person, and she was not. Where I found freedom and beauty in the male-female sexual union, regardless of that little peice of paper called a mariage license that she wanted so badly before "handing over the goods," she found sin. The more she talked about it, the more it became apparent to me that these were THEIR ideas and not HERS. See, I've always been a little bit of an old-fashioned kinda' guy. I like relationships. I like knowing a woman for a while before we consummate the relationship. I like seeing bits and pieces of her spirit before I get to know her body. don't like to have sex in a way that is not unifying in the sense of furthering a relationship. That's just me. Sex is sacred to me. Human sexuality is beautiful and fragile. But I hate the idea of waiting until marriage. But not her. Oh, they had it in her mind that that was the ONLY way to go. There were a lot of arguments in the early parts of our relationship, a lot of arguments about sex and religion. Along the way, though, something happened: she spent less time with her parents, and less time with her school, got out into the real world, and found out they were full of SHIT. Now? She's a freak. Whew. Lord, have mercy. I suppose you could call it a success story. Certainly there have been worse endings. But looking back, I see that a lot of what she wanted to believe was made explicitly to control her. So I think you've got something there when you talk about control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godlessgrrl Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 Gwemead, who is FundyBoy? You've mentioned him before and I can't get it quite figured out. Ah! FundyBoy was a guy I dated for a few months back in 2001 or so. As his name indicates, he was a fundamentalist evangelical Xian. I dated him at a time when I was still on the fence about Xianity. The relationship in a nutshell was that he was missionary dating and I didn't realize it until he got tired of me not instantly converting and stopped lying about it and stopped pretending to be a decent human being. I post about him here a lot because he's just prime fodder for examples of just how fucked up Xians can be. He goes by a number of different names - FundyBoy, FBX, BibleBoy, etc. I feel that he did a lot of damage at the time, but for what it's worth I realize a lot of it was just a reinforcing of stuff that was a lot older and deeper, and was around long before he ever arrived on the scene. Good on ya, Trancelation, for helping "liberate" your fiancee. It sounds like you have a very healthy attitude towards sex and relationships. Anything to break through the sexual bullshit people get indoctrinated with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 If pleasurin' myself is wrong, then I don't want to be right....No, if pleasuring yourself is wrong, you aren't doing it right. I'll have to practice some more then. Practice makes perfect. When I was young and in my prime I used to do it all the time. Now that I am old and grey I only do it once a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulQ Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 On a side note, why do women feel it is OK to pry into your life and spy and destroy things they consider 'bad'? Read this post and tell me what you think, were the women involved justified?---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.xxxchurch.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=232 I am in desparate need of advice. My brother is 24 years old. He has been dealing with porn for at least 3 years that i know of. He was actually kicked out of our house at one point, because my father was tired of having it in the house. We thought he cleaned up his act and got over the addiction and he came back to our house after a putting up with a terrible living condition for months. Earlier this year he moved out on his own. A few weeks later i went to his house, He wasn't there but numerous magazines and a blow-up doll were. I did not say anything i just simply threw all of the stuff away. About a month later. My cousin (who is going through struggles of his own) was over at my house. And i stopped by after they had fallen asleep. I moved some clothes on the couch to sit down and there was a DVD laying there. The NEXT day. I got a call from my brother's boss (who is also a good friend of mine) asking if i had heard from my brother. I told him i hadn't and we both called him numerous times. He was supposed to be at work three hours ago. I actually left my work to go looking for him. I got to his house seconds after he had left only to find that a DVD was in his DVD player. And he had fallen asleep watching porn and over slept THREE hours for work. I stole his DVD player, destroyed the DVD and confronted him about it and told our pastor. A week later his girl friend of 5 years asks me what i know about his problem because she had logged into his email and found hundreds of title's that were waiting to be sent from an online subscribtion. This was 3 months ago. Since then she has broken up with him and gotten back together. He has (at least i thought) since then been much better. I speant the night at his house again. And i was looking for something i thought i left there and came across about a half a dozen more magazines under his couch. that were not there last week. If his girl-friend finds out, i am sure it is over. If my pastor finds out i am sure he will almost never have a ministry at our church again. Not to mention i am afraid of his walk with the LORD. Praise the lord i have never let this addiction come into my life. I know it is an addiction. And i know it is tough to get over. He has been seeing someone (supposedly) for help. But i just know other people are going to find out about this and it is going to be devasting to him and every one who loves him. Please PRAY and any advice on what i can do is also helpful. Thank you and may god bless you all. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nosey women should be shot, we men don't open your handbag and check what you have nor do we throw out your useless collextion of Hello Kitty videos just because we think its crap. p.s. If his porn use interrupts his life then he needs help, but seeing porn in and of itsself is ok in my view, post lots of comments! I'd kick my brother's ass if he tried to wreck my porn. Heck, I'd kick his ass for coming into my home and snooping for it! Oh, and the analogy between drugs and masturbation...when's the last time someone OD'd on spankin' the monkey? These fundies really need to get a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godlessgrrl Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 Oh, and the analogy between drugs and masturbation...when's the last time someone OD'd on spankin' the monkey? These fundies really need to get a clue. One of FBX's lines was that "people shouldn't masturbate because it releases endorphins in the brain and you can get addicted to it." And you're right, nobody should be wrecking someone else's porno collection. That's just low. (And illegal.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulQ Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 One of FBX's lines was that "people shouldn't masturbate because it releases endorphins in the brain and you can get addicted to it." And you're right, nobody should be wrecking someone else's porno collection. That's just low. (And illegal.) Well, by that logic, none of them should ever have sex. In fact, I think that would be an excellent idea. For them not to have sex, that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nude Disintegrating Parachutist Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 If loving me is wrong, I don't want to be right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 On a side note, why do women feel it is OK to pry into your life and spy and destroy things they consider 'bad'? Read this post and tell me what you think, were the women involved justified? ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.xxxchurch.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=232 "I am in desparate need of advice. My brother is 24 years old. He has been dealing with porn for at least 3 years that i know of. He was actually kicked out of our house at one point, because my father was tired of having it in the house. We thought he cleaned up his act and got over the addiction and he came back to our house after a putting up with a terrible living condition for months." What a loving Dad! Maybe the son was tired of his father's sexual represson...can you imagine what this kid's life was like growing up? Son: "Daddy, my wee wee got big in the shower today!" Dad: "That's the DEVIL IN YOU!!!! OHHH LARD, WE NEED AN EXORCISM!!!"....I'd be jacking off 9 times a day by 24 having to put up with that crap! "Earlier this year he moved out on his own. A few weeks later i went to his house, He wasn't there but numerous magazines and a blow-up doll were. I did not say anything i just simply threw all of the stuff away." I love the sister, what a joke. The guy has enough problems finding a place and working, then she comes over to further oppress him. This is so typical of "Christians"...they always fuck over their own if they don't "act properly". I had the same BS put on me from fellow Christians. "About a month later. My cousin (who is going through struggles of his own) was over at my house. And i stopped by after they had fallen asleep. I moved some clothes on the couch to sit down and there was a DVD laying there." I guess it wasn't a blockbuster new release. "The NEXT day. I got a call from my brother's boss (who is also a good friend of mine) asking if i had heard from my brother. I told him i hadn't and we both called him numerous times. He was supposed to be at work three hours ago. I actually left my work to go looking for him. I got to his house seconds after he had left only to find that a DVD was in his DVD player. And he had fallen asleep watching porn and over slept THREE hours for work." So, when I was 22 I over-slept 2 hours once from a one night stand with a hot chick I met at a club. But I managed to sneak in at work :-) "I speant the night at his house again. And i was looking for something i thought i left there and came across about a half a dozen more magazines under his couch. that were not there last week. If his girl-friend finds out, i am sure it is over. If my pastor finds out i am sure he will almost never have a ministry at our church again. Not to mention i am afraid of his walk with the LORD." WHY does she keep staying at his house? Oh no, he'll never have a ministry! Boo Hoo! Maybe he doesn't need Jesus! "Praise the lord i have never let this addiction come into my life. I know it is an addiction. And i know it is tough to get over." Like your belief in Jesus. "Nosey women should be shot, we men don't open your handbag and check what you have nor do we throw out your useless collextion of Hello Kitty videos just because we think its crap." Exactly. "p.s. If his porn use interrupts his life then he needs help, but seeing porn in and of itsself is ok in my view, post lots of comments!" Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godlessgrrl Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 One of FBX's lines was that "people shouldn't masturbate because it releases endorphins in the brain and you can get addicted to it." And you're right, nobody should be wrecking someone else's porno collection. That's just low. (And illegal.) Well, by that logic, none of them should ever have sex. In fact, I think that would be an excellent idea. For them not to have sex, that is. Yeah. By FBX's logic, nobody should be masturbating, or having sex... or laughing, or exercising, or doing anything whatsoever that they enjoy at all... because any of it could release endorphins and they could get addicted. What a tool... I like the idea of fundies never having sex. I think that's a great idea too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 Yeah. By FBX's logic, nobody should be masturbating, or having sex... or laughing, or exercising, or doing anything whatsoever that they enjoy at all... because any of it could release endorphins and they could get addicted. What a tool... I like the idea of fundies never having sex. I think that's a great idea too. More Christian Logic... Weight lifting...obviously a trick of the devil to make men proud of their health and more attractive to women, so they can tempt them into...HAVING SEX WITH THEM!!! I decided to stop doing anything except stamp collecting (and only Peruvian stamps, they are lowly and 'humble' looking), as it might lead to sin. But lately I've found I ENJOY my stamp collection, so I'm going to a "men's retreat" soon...too many endorphins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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