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The problem, Leaf, is that there is a difference between being "horney as hell" and "love".

 

Call it what you want. It does take two to tango - I agree with that. But two people looking for "love" in bed doesn't work. It just doesn't.

 

Love is something that comes with a committment to stay with a person even when it's not "fun" or you're "bored" etc... Love is something that says this person has been with me through thick and thin and stood by me when everyone else around me ran - so I will continue to put my energy and love into this relationship and I won't hurt this person by going behind their back to have an affair.

 

Love has very little to do with sex. Sex is sex - that's it. Someone can have sex and not be loving and a couple can be deeply in love without sex. I wouldn't recommend it - but it does happen especially as people age and life takes its toll on the human body.

 

So - you're young and you're an Alpha Male - so what. Someday you'll be old - and some young buck (or many) will come along and take your place. They always do - that's the story of Alpha males. And - if you continue living as you live now - you'll still be wanting love and you'll have nowhere to look for it. Sex will have lost its luster.

 

I'm female - and I'm not in the least bit jealous. I've been married 26 years. My husband is 50 this year - he's not as hot looking as he was 30 years ago - (neither am I - although I will say this people tell me I look much younger than I actually am - I have been mistaken as being a sister to my two daughters more than once.) But that's neither here nor there. What is important is that while the young bucks (Alpha Males) of our day were running around getting laid we were building a relationship. We were building years of working together to raise kids, build careers, build a community in which we found support all those things. Neither one of us have ever felt the need to find "love" in someone elses bed.

 

Now looking back on all those years together and who has ended up where - I'm happy I didn't marry an Alpha Male - they've all gone stale. They're older and alone and cynical and jaded and they haven't found "love" either.

 

So ... I'm with DigitalQuirk ... I just feel sorry for you. Wendyshrug.gif

 

And - someday - I really do hope you find love.

I surely dont need your sermons on love.Ive been with more women that if I told you how many you would be jelious.

I know sex-relationships allot more then most on this board..I sure the hell dont need you wuss bag advise.I'm doing very good without it! Like I said topic...women fuck despite they go to church....

Now thats enough I dont need ugly mother fuckers like DickQuirk tring to ruin my game..I post this as info on how Xtian women are...Enough I am tired of the BS and crap...I am a player..I have women ...Nuff said...

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But based on what is he a piece of shit? I honestly don't get it.

Well, I don't get why "it takes two to tango" has any bearing on the thing. If I were to endorse his behavior then that would seem equivalent to me to saying that contracts and promises have no value.

 

If at some point these wives made a promise to their husbands to be faithful then he facilitates the breaking of that oath.

 

Come on Vigile, you're married. Does your oath mean nothing to you? Do you go around encouraging and enabling others to break their contracts? Do you think I should applaud this morally bankrupt person?

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I... don't see why a woman would be jealous of your "conquests"...

 

It seems to me that you don't know the first thing about love in the sense of an emotional connection. You are a purely physical creature. That's as much of my opinion as I'm willing to express though, because it isn't my place to fight here.

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I make lots of money. LOTS OF MONEY. I'm good at it, I'm gifted, I can sell anything.

 

When I was a Christian I would hook up with other salesmen from church and together we'd go out and fleece customers. Can you believe the hypocracy of those christians? They claimed to be christians and yet they would happily rip people off with me.

 

Any way, I don't need the sermons or advice from all you paupers here on this board, I'm rich. RICH! and I know how to get more money, any time I want. And the people I sell my crap to are happy to part with their money, they think they're getting a good deal.

 

So stuff you poor people, I know waht I like and how to get it. LOADSAMONEY! Christian hypocrites they do the same thing when they still attend church. Don't give me lectures on frugal living you parsimonious bastards! I'm richer than you'll ever be.

 

I can show you how to do it, it's easy, you just need loads of confidence, some crap to sell and a willing punter to buy it. What's the problem? I sell, they buy. and I'm RICH. Ha! Ha!

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I surely dont need your sermons on love.Ive been with more women that if I told you how many you would be jelious.

I know sex-relationships allot more then most on this board..I sure the hell dont need you wuss bag advise.I'm doing very good without it! Like I said topic...women fuck despite they go to church....

Now thats enough I dont need ugly mother fuckers like DickQuirk tring to ruin my game..I post this as info on how Xtian women are...Enough I am tired of the BS and crap...I am a player..I have women ...Nuff said...

 

Ho. Hum. Leaf has a lot of sex. So what?

 

I also enjoyed a promiscuous period in my life, until I settled down with one guy at the age of 32. I enjoyed my teens and 20s quite a lot and don't regret my sexual past one bit because I never lied to anyone or cheated on anyone or helped someone else cheat on a partner. No, I don't think it's naive to suggest that a person can be sexually active without being a liar and a cheat.

 

Despite all the fun of a swinging sexual past, however, I do enjoy having a committed, loving relationship more. The sex is still great, and there are a lot of benefits to actually sharing a life, and not just a bed, with another person.

 

Maybe Leaf will be so fortunate when he grows up.

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Good one Stewart! Leaf is a :loser:

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I make lots of money. LOTS OF MONEY. I'm good at it, I'm gifted, I can sell anything.

 

When I was a Christian I would hook up with other salesmen from church and together we'd go out and fleece customers. Can you believe the hypocracy of those christians? They claimed to be christians and yet they would happily rip people off with me.

 

Any way, I don't need the sermons or advice from all you paupers here on this board, I'm rich. RICH! and I know how to get more money, any time I want. And the people I sell my crap to are happy to part with their money, they think they're getting a good deal.

 

So stuff you poor people, I know waht I like and how to get it. LOADSAMONEY! Christian hypocrites they do the same thing when they still attend church. Don't give me lectures on frugal living you parsimonious bastards! I'm richer than you'll ever be.

 

I can show you how to do it, it's easy, you just need loads of confidence, some crap to sell and a willing punter to buy it. What's the problem? I sell, they buy. and I'm RICH. Ha! Ha!

 

:HaHa:

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Topic at hand was women if Christian like to have sex... Xtains are full of shit..I was affraid this would lead to men being jelious aurgument by insecure men and what not..Most of you men are total wuss bags and you know it..If you go out of a Friday night U go home alone or with a fat chick if lucky

 

I really dont give a fling fuck..I hardly post here...And I still go to church "for a reason :D and not to serve Jesus if U get my hint... :P

Dont give 2 fucking hoots about anyone on this board esp ugly ass mother fuckers like Dickboy...god damn dude ditch the avatar!!! You are homely!!!

Anyway the point is..Christian women or non Christian they all still fuck...

Same goes with most of your GF and wives here...Let a good player come into their lives....

You all know what I say is true....

Again I am really tied about talking personal life I'll leave it at that what I posted in #1 post.

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I... don't see why a woman would be jealous of your "conquests"...
Because - in his mind at least - the number of "conquests" is reflection of his prowness in bed - his ability to sexually satisify a woman.

 

It seems to me that you don't know the first thing about love in the sense of an emotional connection. You are a purely physical creature.
I agree completely.

 

(Leaf) Like I said topic...women fuck despite they go to church....
Yea... so what ... do you think that surprises anyone on this board? :shrug:

 

Why did you feel the need to bring your own sexual escapades into it? Good grief - I could name 1/2 a dozen "good Christians" - just off the top of my head - who screw around on their partners. Anyone on this board could - that's a well known fact. You didn't need to bring your own sexual conquests into the discussion to prove that point. :Doh:

 

Christians are hypocrits (along with the rest of the human race) what's your point?

 

You brought your own escapades up for a reason - since you're Alpha Male (by your own admission) - my guess is that it was a backhanded way of bragging about yourself.

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You brought your own escapades up for a reason - since you're Alpha Male (by your own admission) - my guess is that it was a backhanded way of bragging about yourself.

Because - in his mind at least - the number of "conquests" is reflection of his prowness in bed - his ability to sexually satisify a woman.

.....They keep on comming.....

You didn't need to bring your own sexual conquests into the discussion to prove that point
I went back and read your post...Hnmm seems you did the same thing in a differnt form..you tried to prove you point via difernt methods..should I cut and paste and make you appear like a complete moron???....It is very easy to do. My point was that I was in the church..and I laid with very religious women...like your points on athism..And please stop god damn bringing up morality like your some fucking wack job Christians...I dont givbe a fuck..you are preaching to the choir.I wont change.I am very happy with my lifestyle thank you!
It seems to me that you don't know the first thing about love in the sense of an emotional connection. You are a purely physical creature.

I agree completely.

Yeah love :D last about 5 years MAX...then staus

quo..Jesus man spare me the bull shit!!

Love...Ohhh god..Yeah we all use that phrase from time to time to manipulate...

Anyway Spare me the Puritain holiness crap..Thier is NO fucking god..And we are accountable to ourselves..and morality is for each man...You are tring to dictate my morality..from what you feel is superior...But you have nothing to back you..What I do is 100% correct and just..for both of us agree...what feels good do it!!!! Stick your fucking Purtitan morals where the sun don't shine I dont want to hear it!!!

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My point was that I was in the church..and I laid with very religious women...like your points on athism..

 

OK.... you lost me....

 

please cut and paste my "points on athiesm" because I don't know what the hell you're talking about.

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Yeah, Christians cheat. And lie. And fuck around. Like a lot of people do. And players get a lot of sex but remain emotionally clueless.

 

Tell us news, not history.

 

I'd actually have less of a problem with the player lifestyle (for lack of a better word) if there wasn't this inherent need for players to insult, demean, and belittle everybody who doesn't behave the same way they do. It really isn't the casual, abundant sex that I find revolting at all, it's the total lack of respect for anybody outside of the game.

 

Kind of like I'd have less of a problem with Christians if they didn't seem to have a need to shove their religion down everybody else's throat. Funny how that works, ain't it.

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I'd actually have less of a problem with the player lifestyle (for lack of a better word) if there wasn't this inherent need for players to insult, demean, and belittle everybody who doesn't behave the same way they do. It really isn't the casual, abundant sex that I find revolting at all, it's the total lack of respect for anybody outside of the game.

Wuss bag..dateless home on Sat night beating off....Downloading internet porn and wishing he can land a babe like Leaf gets..Dube...google David Deanglo or The Player...get some tips man your game sucks!!!

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I'd actually have less of a problem with the player lifestyle (for lack of a better word) if there wasn't this inherent need for players to insult, demean, and belittle everybody who doesn't behave the same way they do. It really isn't the casual, abundant sex that I find revolting at all, it's the total lack of respect for anybody outside of the game.

Wuss bag..dateless home on Sat night beating off....Downloading internet porn and wishing he can land a babe like Leaf gets..Dube...google David Deanglo or The Player...get some tips man your game sucks!!!

 

Case in point: witness Exhibit A.

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*Yawns*

 

So why do you feel the need to post all this on an internet message board, Leaf? Do you seriously think we are impressed? This is the internet, people can type anything they want to. Doesn't make it true.

 

Guess what? ZOMGROTFLMAOBBQ!!!1! I 1 the LOTTeRY last NiGHT and am a zilLIONaire!!!!1!! Wheeeeeee!

 

You see what I am getting at here?

 

This is a forum of skeptics. And even if I were to take you at your word, so what? So you sleep around. Big deal. I'm sure you're not the first guy to sleep around. Doesn't make you any better or worse than anyone else. All it makes you is human.

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I'd actually have less of a problem with the player lifestyle (for lack of a better word) if there wasn't this inherent need for players to insult, demean, and belittle everybody who doesn't behave the same way they do. It really isn't the casual, abundant sex that I find revolting at all, it's the total lack of respect for anybody outside of the game.

Wuss bag..dateless home on Sat night beating off....Downloading internet porn and wishing he can land a babe like Leaf gets..Dube...google David Deanglo or The Player...get some tips man your game sucks!!!

Case in point: witness Exhibit A.
:lmao:

 

I was hoping you'd respond like that - Gwenmead - :)

 

(I had been thinking - "ladies and gentlemen, I rest my case" - would be a great response. But I like yours better - it leaves things open for further exhibits.) :)

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:lmao:

 

I was hoping you'd respond like that - Gwenmead - :)

 

(I had been thinking - "ladies and gentlemen, I rest my case" - would be a great response. But I like yours better - it leaves things open for further exhibits.) :)

 

Thank you kindly. :thanks:

 

I'm sure there will be plenty more exhibits to come. I'm looking forward to them, mainly for the laughs. :wicked:

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Thank you kindly. :thanks:

 

I'm sure there will be plenty more exhibits to come. I'm looking forward to them, mainly for the laughs. :wicked:

Ahhh.... .Yesss.... but how can one improve on....

 

Wuss bag..dateless home on Sat night beating off....Downloading internet porn and wishing he can land a babe like Leaf gets..Dube...google David Deanglo or The Player...get some tips man your game sucks!!!

:lmao::funny:

 

It doesn't get much better than that... ;)

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"fat chick." Wow, Leaf...I feel sorry for any of the women you purportedly hang out with if they so much as gain a little bit of weight.

 

Do "players" always have to be so cruel and shallow?

 

-Seth

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This is a forum of skeptics.

Yes, and as one of them, let me point out a little something I noticed that doesn't quite line up:

 

Leaf claims to be from the Ukraine. He also said he had Sveta coming over at 9:30 tonight. Now according to the timestamps on his posts, it seems he continued to post until 10:37 PM in his local time zone. :49: Hmmm...

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This is a forum of skeptics.

Yes, and as one of them, let me point out a little something I noticed that doesn't quite line up:

 

Leaf claims to be from the Ukraine. He also said he had Sveta coming over at 9:30 tonight. Now according to the timestamps on his posts, it seems he continued to post until 10:37 PM in his local time zone. :49: Hmmm...

 

OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! Busted.

 

Me thinks you've found exhibit B. :lmao::funny:

 

Anyone want to make any bets on where he found the pictures of the girls he posted???? ;)

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For the record, many people mistake my wife for being Italian. In fact, her mother and father are both from the Ukraine, but my wife was born in Canada. She can speak Ukrainian and english fluently, is an Ontario scholar, and made the honour roll in College. She is quite a wonderful package; on a scale of 1-10, I give her an 11.

 

Here's what she had to say:

 

I saw the pictures of your so-called "Conquests" and noticed that the women in the pictures seem to have a fake plastic smile. Why can they not smile genuinely? I would guess they are not happy with their lives; perhaps with having to settle for you for a sexual outlet. I think they would smile a lot better if they could find a real man who actually cares about them. From the pictures you have posted, I can honestly say that those women are not happy at all. I feel sorry for them, and hope that one day they can gain the self esteem they need to live a life without demeaning men like you as a part of it. They may be willing participants, but I doubt they're the least bit happy about it. How fortunate for you to be a predatory male in a depressed economy. I keep in touch with my family from there, and I know how bad things are, especially for the women who have to put up with dreadful men like you. The women from the Ukraine are fine, but some of the men can be real pricks. Speaking of which, where is the picture of you, Don Juan? Are you afraid? Not that it would matter, because your personality stinks. My guess is you're as ugly looking as you behave.

 

She is quite intelligent, isn't she? So insightful as well. She rarely participates in internet web forums, busy with her career and all. I agree with her comment about your women bearing a "Fake plastic smile." I think anyone can see they are not genuinely happy. I don't think you are either. You are to be pitied, and aside from my snyde, witty remarks, I do feel sorry for you. It will be a few more years until you realize it, because you are so full of yourself, you lack the insight necessary to see into your own future.

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For shits and giggles folks, "Leaf" is not posting from one of my usual trolling proxy spots. He has a consistant IP and seems to be using a State sponsored high speed net service.

 

Let us remember what Ex-Christian Boards exist for.

 

"Encouraging Ex-Christians".

 

The name calling and monkeyshit tossing stops NOW. If y'all can't act like adults in an adult thread, I'll simply be the Nazirator from Hell and nuke the whole fucking thing. You'll loose your playground and no one will pick on Leaf and his big dick.

 

Play nice, or not at all. There will be no further warnin's, askin's, or beggin' from the 100 Pound Solution to a Single Nail Problem.

 

 

kFL

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Yeah your a Beta male that sits home and jacks off on a Friday night while I get the women..Yeah you feel sorry that you got no game. ;) Dont feed my ears with bullshit..I love life and am having a grand time since I was 24 and became a player..I have ZERO desire to marry again!
Sorry that you are so wilfully ignorant
Maybe..but if i want a piece I get it any time I want..i literally have women eating out of the palm of my hand...I dont do my laundry or dishes..And I am certainly not lonely...I enjoy my lifestyle. Look Dickquak I don't need nor want your fucking holy sermons... so fuck off... I posted this topic to show the vanity of these holy Christians.

I don't know, maybe there are differences in cultures we're dealing with here, but there are two things that stand out to me and they are these:

 

1. You say to the other poster here that they have no "game".

 

2. You speak of how huge percentages of married men and women have extra-marital affairs (the assumption being this is not an agreed upon open relationship between the couple).

 

First of all, do you somehow see your exploits with married women some sort of a fun, harmless game for you? If so, do you deny that these sorts of things are extremely hurtful to others as it is a betrayal of trust? If you view this as "their" problem, do you feel no responsibility for participating in this, that they're just going to do it anyway? Isn't this sort of like harming someone with impunity, simply because they are faceless people beyond your immediate circle of friends? Would you do this to your best friend?

 

Secondly, that huge percentages of people do this doesn't make it OK for you. Personally, I would prefer to uphold higher human standards by my actions - such as TRUST, even if everyone else was acting like a bunch of greedy takers, in fact especially if they were. I'm not a lemming.

 

Now however, IF it was a case where there was an OPEN relationship, that the wife or husband had agreements with each other it was OK, then there is no TRUST being violated, no injuries occurring either to the one having the outside relationship, or to the non-particpating spouce. In that particular case then it would not be "cheating". It's part of their realtionship built on love and trust.

 

To me the most sacred word in the world is sincerity. Sincerity is about truthfulness and integrity. I judge myself by my trustworthiness. To see myself as a "cheater" is to deminish my own value in my own eyes. I see this whole, "doing it because everyone is", as nothing other that an excuse for greed. A taker. A user. An insincere person.

 

Your point that this was to point out the hypocrisy of those who call themselves religious, frankly fails to impress me when you are not showing something to me that is a higher standard. If anything you sound as hypocritical as them. I'm sorry to say this to you, but I have to be honest about something like this. Again, it's fine if it's an agreement in a marital relationship, but if it's "cheating", then I would not "contribute" to the problem. They either need to work on their issues, or split up. It's a basic human values thing - trust. For you to "have game" with these people, frankly is unfortunate. It just takes. It doesn't bulid anything. It's greed.

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OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! Busted.

 

Me thinks you've found exhibit B. :lmao::funny:

 

Anyone want to make any bets on where he found the pictures of the girls he posted???? ;)

 

:HaHa:

 

Good post, Antlerman. Having sex with other people's spouses is fine and dandy, but if people are violating the trust of others, it's a whole different ball game. It's the difference between what really is good, harmless fun, and being an asshole. And I dabbled in being an asshole once, so I understand the angle.

 

And yes, this is a board of skeptics. Which begs me to wonder if Leaf is even genuine. One has to wonder.

 

Yes, it takes two to tango, and if he did indeed fuck any Xian women, they were wanting it as much as him. Yes, I'd probably bed a hot Xian chick if the opportunity came around, depending on the situation. But this is all sounding like something far removed from a thread about Xian behavioral inconsistencies.

 

There's no way to know if Leaf is real or lying, and we can judge a lot based on his reactions to various posters. Failing to even properly identify the gender of someone to whom he words a rude reply (seeming to assume Gwenmead and O_M were males), being arrogant and rude - yeah, this seems just like a thread to boost someone's ego.

 

Those with strong egos need little ego stroking. Those who have weak egos need to boost them constantly. I think that ego-stroking is just as much a part of this thread as the actual topic.

 

That, and Leaf is more of a jackass than I, for even though neither of us would have any moral qualms bedding a hottie who happens to be Xian, he's rude towards other board members, almost like a child throwing a tantrum when he's not the center of attention.

 

Amusing, really :)

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