Fishapod Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 A video to show to your Christian friends: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest aginghipster Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 The Old Testament was part of the old law which was nullified by Jesus Christ on earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwc Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 The Old Testament was part of the old law which was nullified by Jesus Christ on earth. Are you being serious? Besides...what does that have to do with the video? Only a couple of questions would be affected by this if it were true. mwc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest aginghipster Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 I returned to the fold. Im a believer again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 I returned to the fold. Im a believer again! And this from a person who posted a thread about the world ending on Jan 7 2007? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsmoke Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 Wait, you mean the apocalypse came and went and I was too busy being miserable with a cold to even notice? Damn it, I always miss those! Who knows when the next one might come; it could be decades before I get to see another! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white_raven23 Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 The Old Testament was part of the old law which was nullified by Jesus Christ on earth. I'm really sick of hearing this horse shit. Especially when the words of your own BOOK don NOT support the assertion. http://www.evilbible.com/do_not_ignore_ot.htm 1) “For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV) Clearly the Old Testament is to be abided by until the end of human existence itself. None other then Jesus said so. 2) All of the vicious Old Testament laws will be binding forever. "It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB) 3) Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn’t the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17 NAB) 3b) "All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness..." (2 Timothy 3:16 NAB) 3c) "Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation, for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God." (2 Peter 20-21 NAB) 4) Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children according to Old Testament law. Mark.7:9-13 "Whoever curses father or mother shall die" (Mark 7:10 NAB) 5) Jesus is criticized by the Pharisees for not washing his hands before eating. He defends himself by attacking them for not killing disobedient children according to the commandment: “He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.” (Matthew 15:4-7) 6) Jesus has a punishment even worse than his father concerning adultery: God said the act of adultery was punishable by death. Jesus says looking with lust is the same thing and you should gouge your eye out, better a part, than the whole. The punishment under Jesus is an eternity in Hell. (Matthew 5:27) 7) Peter says that all slaves should “be subject to [their] masters with all fear,” to the bad and cruel as well as the “good and gentle.” This is merely an echo of the same slavery commands in the Old Testament. 1 Peter 2:18 8) “Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law" (John7:19) and “For the law was given by Moses,..." (John 1:17). 9) “...the scripture cannot be broken.” --Jesus Christ, John 10:35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad_religion Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 The Old Testament was part of the old law which was nullified by Jesus Christ on earth. If you think rationally about such a statement, it is another reason to reject belief in a god. Why? Because God is supposedly perfect who gave a perfect law which would last forever (according to the old testament), yet it is more likely that the inventors of Christianity were anti-jewish people who rejected the traditional midrash of the old testament. By inventing a new religion and story underlying this new religion, they could magically reject the old testament laws, yet still claim to worship the old testament god. Invoking more imaginary things like Jesus Christ to nullify something from another imaginary thing like Yahweh just shows how imaginary and irrational it all is. If all one has to do is create a new religion to make null the previous religious teachings, then one should not reject things like Islam or Mormonism, since they do almost identical things with "updated" scripture which reinterprets biblical passages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverclear5 Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 If you think rationally about such a statement, it is another reason to reject belief in a god. Why? Because God is supposedly perfect who gave a perfect law which would last forever (according to the old testament), yet it is more likely that the inventors of Christianity were anti-jewish people who rejected the traditional midrash of the old testament. By inventing a new religion and story underlying this new religion, they could magically reject the old testament laws, yet still claim to worship the old testament god. there were many pro and anti jewish versions of christianity. One contested that the god of the old testament is clearly very cruel and cold hearted and that jesus a seperate god came to sacrifice himself for us and save us from this nastier old testament god. Obviousely once a fairly solid concensous was formed any outside of it were brutally supressed and their works destroyed. In fact we only know of many of them from refutations of their work, preserved in the writtings of their more traditionally christian opponents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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