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Most Abominable Acts Personally Witnessed In Church


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My parents still belong to the church they raised me in and it angers me to no end. Not merely because they are living their lives based on one enormous lie but also because the church is one of the most corrupt institutions I've ever seen. I will take a few minutes to relate some of the most abomiable (anti-Christian) acts that I have personally witnessed at this church over a ten-year timspan:

 

1. One man "came to the Lord" as tearfully and as apologetically as you can imagine. He was denouncing Satan, praising God, making vows and cursing sin at the altar. What happens to those who make such a conversion display? They become the church's immediate poster child. This man (formerly a vagrant) was now a sanctified man of God. Evidently that didn't keep him from molesting his 12-year old mentally handicapped neice. Nor did it keep him from comitting suicide prior to his arraignment in the church parking lot via self-immolation in his car/home. (**I attempted to find a news article on this but it happened about eight years ago and the local online newspaper archives only go back 2+/- years.**)

 

2. Our (private) school's Bible/Algebra teacher was a great man of God. Who cares if he liked to fondle his female students and rent pornographic films in his spare time? One of those girls just happened to be a high school girlfriend. She confided his actions to me and I immediately informed the principal and my parents. Did they believe me? Of course not. Two years after I graduated high school, he coincidentally got fired from his teaching position for sexually assaulting a student. I don't know why they acted on the claims this time but they did. The only problem is, they wrote him a letter of recommendation to a local Catholic high school just up the road. He got the job but didn't even make it through the schoolyear. He was fired from that school. The common thread with both schools is that neither felt it their duty to report his actions to law enforcement officials. It took him soliciting sex from two middle school girls to finally bring him to "justice" (time served, measly fines and parole). Want to see what Dr. David Cornelius looks like? Here ya go... http://www.isp.state.il.us/sor/offenderdet...C$93$

 

What about you? I'm sure I'll think of more...

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You won't believe this of Mennonites but it's true. At least from the perspective of the victim. The church tried killing her. And others like her. She has a very unusual health condition. Conventional medicine aggravates the situation. After a long hard search medicine was found to which her body responds favourably. It was a new kind of alternative medicine and the church decided to label it witchcraft. Her husband went so far as to bring in religion to help win the case. He reminded the ministers that on their wedding day he had promised to take care of her. He lost the case and they left the church.

 

Perhaps it is witchcraft, but so what? So far as I know, witchcraft is nothing but the manipulation of energy. So are Jesus' supposed miracles. A Christian prof said one man's miracle is another man's magic.

 

If electricity, etc. is not a manipulation of energy then I don't know what it is. Not to mention the internet. This is going to sound weird, esp. to computer programers and software engineers. One day some years ago I very seriously wanted some concept of the reality of God. As I struggled I got a clear idea: The internet is an effective analogy for God.

 

Why? For one obvious reason: I don't know how it works and it's invisible. (This is not an invitation for explanations on how it works; I don't have the brains for that and, unless it's extremely simply put, I probably won't read it.) For another, it brings the emotions and life experiences and insights to me from a person I've never seen (very like the Bible and God's holy spirit), of whose location in the world I have no idea (the "God is everywhere" idea comes to mind), not to mention a whole lot of other human-like characteristics (such as being an info respository or knowing everything), just like God.

 

Whatever the case, whatever magic is, I think it's wrong to condemn a person to seriously ill health and an early grave just because some powerful church people don't understand the medicine. I very seriously doubt that they understand all the lacer procedures that they allow. This church and its elders accept all the medical science required to keep them alive. I'll never forget a very strict eighty-year-plus deacon who went for open heart surgery. It lengthened his life by a little bit--I don't remember if it was more or less than a year.

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I dunno if you could call it "wicked" but I stuck my hand down my pants once to grope my junk before shaking hands with a hot girl during the Sign of Peace at Mass, once.

 

Hey, I was still in high school :mellow:

 

Other than that, unless telling people about how they have to suck up to Jebus or else they'll suffer in Hell eternally counts, then no. My condolences to those who have seen fucked up shit, though - nothing smears Xianity like Xians themselves :(

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I dunno if you could call it "wicked" but I stuck my hand down my pants once to grope my junk before shaking hands with a hot girl during the Sign of Peace at Mass, once.

 

 

 

 

:twitch: Varokhar!!! :lmao: Oh. My. Gawd! :lmao: That is not something I was expecting to read! LOL!!

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:twitch: Varokhar!!! :lmao: Oh. My. Gawd! :lmao: That is not something I was expecting to read! LOL!!

 

BOO-YAH!

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:wicked: I gave oral sex to my wife in the pastor's office at the Methodist church during my sisters wedding. That was back when she was still adventurous.
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I personally witnessed and was effected by mob mentality in the ass of gawd Church aka Assembly of God. It's a scary thing to see everyone in the zombie like zone laying hand and casting out devils & demons, I still have anxiety thinking about it (( Shudder )))

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We once had a prayer in church that God would create a new type of AIDS for arabs so they wouldn't reproduce. I didn't go to that church again. That was seriously evil.

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We once had a prayer in church that God would create a new type of AIDS for arabs so they wouldn't reproduce. I didn't go to that church again. That was seriously evil.

That's got to be a joke, right? Where's the punchline?

 

By the way... I'm sorry my tag for my old Bible Prof. didn't work. I suck with HTML and the like. Just click the link and type in his last name "CORNELIUS" and you'll get a face full of the fucker. I still know where he lives. Is stalking illegal in all fifty states?

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- My last pastor said multiple times that he prayed to God that people who disagreed with him would either accept the (his) truth or drop dead. Touching.

 

- I once witnessed the pastor's son tell his grandmother "In Jesus' name, get out of this church!" because she disagreed with his mother. He had his finger pointed at her and followed her, finger at her back, as she left the sanctuary. That dear woman hasn't been back since -- and it's been nearly ten years.

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This may seem more subtle, but...

 

How many people have gone to those healing services and been "healed" of heart disease or other serious medical problems, and therefore not gone back for proper medical treatment?

 

I'm sure there's been a few such cases from some of the services I've been to.

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- My last pastor said multiple times that he prayed to God that people who disagreed with him would either accept the (his) truth or drop dead. Touching.

 

- I once witnessed the pastor's son tell his grandmother "In Jesus' name, get out of this church!" because she disagreed with his mother. He had his finger pointed at her and followed her, finger at her back, as she left the sanctuary. That dear woman hasn't been back since -- and it's been nearly ten years.

 

This is so sad.

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It wasn't at church, but the pastor from a church, that my mom goes to, came in to my work and told me that I was going to hell. He said I was going to hell for living with a female friend. This is about 12 years ago when I was still in high school and we had moved in together with another friend due to a bad situation at each of our houses. She had her own room and my best friend and I shared the other bedroom, so everything was completly legit.

 

I never really believed, but I was appalled he and many others in our small town thought that it would be better for her to live with an abusive mother than to live with male room mates.

 

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I am going to be the cause that everyone feels sad after this post:

 

True Story

 

I was in middle school, Sunday School morning. I was a mindless sheep at this time, because I feared hell ect...ect...typical Christian but this day changed things at 10:15. The rooms are connected someone ran over to our classroom said someone has passed out they said the guys name. The guy was actually the father of someone in my sunday school....everyone turned to him and he ran to the end of the hall. An ambulance arrived and everything.

 

They took him off and the actual church service began now. The pastor was all preaching and he announced that he had been taken to the hospital.

 

About 11:15 a guy ran up and talked to the pastor and they were whispering. Then the pastor said " I would like to inform he is now with the lord...." I got a vary erry chill down my back that scared the witts out of me...this man was going to be my High School sunday school teacher.

 

The pastor explained he died preaching the gospel....in my mind " No one is safe if God even kills off his followers." This was one of the most craziest things that happend at my church, after that time my parents slowly quit going.

 

 

 

Aside from this story:

 

I don't trust the church system on bit, the more and more I see pastors molesting kids, child porn, having sex with them. I just don't get why people still follow this shit.

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Okay, back when my husband and I were both fundies my DH was the Children's ministry director. A man joined our church, did the alter call, whole 9 yards. He was in his late 20s but was mentally handicapped, so when he wanted to join the youth group it was allowed. The Youth group and Childrens ministries were seperate, children being 2 years to 6th grade (6th grade ending at 11 or 12 years usually), youth group being 12 to 19. One of our parents was volunteering at a local high school, he was in the office and saw a poster of this man. Apparently he was a registered sex offender, several counts with children under 12. OH MY FUCKING GOD! was my reaction even then. The man who saw the poster came first to my DH, fortunatly the offender had never approched us to work ni the childrens ministries, but the DH went to the Senior Pastor and he, the DH, the asst. pastor, and the youth pastor had a meeting. They brought the man in, with his mother, and spoke to him, he was scolded for not having told anyone, which BY LAW he was suppossed to. He said he hadn't because he was afraid people would hate him, wel yeah. The pastor decided that as long as he followed some rules he coudl remain and they would not tell the whole congregation. :twitch: Rules being he could not go past the fence to where the childrens ministries were, he could not even hang out at that end of the property. He would have to stop going to youth group, and could not go to snow camp. Now, I thought this was the most naive, stupiest thing I'd ever heard, EVER. They took this ASSHOLES word that he was now saved, and didn't tell paernts! Well the guys mother has a FIT that they are picking on him, not letting him keep the friends he made in youth, and she actaully threatened to sue if her son were nto allowed to go to youth camp. The Pastor pointed out to her that because there would be minors there as young as 12, by law he coudl not go. She had several fits after that, and about 2 weeks later it was found out that he was going to be spending the night with one of the church familes, to play with their kids. They had 3 boys ages 9, 5, and under a year. Only then did they remove him fomr the church membership and told the entire congregation on a Sunday why. They were going to go to the authorities, but then, when we got a hint they didn't, my husband did, just not as one of the church leaders.

 

 

Why do churches allow this sort of thing to happen? They believe belief in Jesus is life transforming, no matter how bad you were, if you truly believe upon Jesus you will be saved, and changed, the old man passes away. When someone comes to a church, and appears truly contrite over their "sins" a pastor has to make a choice, do you do what your head tells you, and tell a pedophile to get out, or at least insist everyone know, or do you go by what you believe that Jesus can change even pedophiles? The church, more namely the non-denominatiojnal churches, are one of the last places that let adults that have not gone through even the most lax screening alone with children. It's starting to change, and at least most denoms now require a police bg check, but with more and more organisations requireing checks, and leaving children alone with one adult less and less, it will make the few places left that do even more dangerous.

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I went on this Born Again retreat in the Isle of Wight in the UK and there was this kid who was slightly retarded and I saw him get bullied.

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How about 'abominable' acts we committed ourselves? Like getting drunk and having oral sex with another guy on Catholic retreat? Or again at a party of people from church, and your parish priest walking in and seeing you?

 

Not really an abomination unless you take biblegod's word for it.

 

My cousin apparently used to steal from the collection plate when he was an altar server. That is a shitty thing to do, imo.

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The most inhumane act the church commits is making people sit through their boring sermons. When I was a little kid at church, just a two hour sermon would feel endless. There isn't a more extreme punishment for children.

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A couple of years ago there was a family in the news in CO for keeping one of their foster children locked in a tiny closet under the stairs in the darkness with little food or water. The kid resorted to eating paper and cardboard on several occasions, and lived in his own filth. The mother and father of the family would take the kid out every now and then to beat him and make him do menial labor for them. This went on for 2 years until one of the older children went to the authorities.

 

This family attended my church and acted like a perfectly normal group of people. I was friends with one of the guys. When the congregation found out, people soon acted as if that family had never been members. Creeped me out to no end. That poor kid...

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I belonged to a church that had a half dozen or so sibling churches in the immediate area and they sponsored a campus ministry at Michigan State University; they had even bought two houses just off school property at opposite ends of the campus for student housing, a men's house and a women's house. The campus minister had an office, not in the guy's house but in the girl's house; when I first began attending this ministry the campus minister was on suspension though I didn't know why, but a few years after that he was reprimanded by the ministry and, though it was never really announced formally to the churches, he had been having an affair with one of the girls living in the ministry-sponsored house and it was not his first offense of this type - I suspect that that was why he was suspended the first time. Incredibly the churches were not going to do much of anything until the girl he was involved with demanded them to do so, and at that point, his office was moved to the men's house and he was forbidden to call on female students on campus unaccompanied by another member of the 'ministry team.' I was appalled that, being a repeat offender and what I would call a sexual predator, that all that happened were cosmetic things like moving the office (which shouldn't have been in the ladies' house in the first place) and requiring he have someone else with him when calling on students. This is someone who was 'under color of authority' dealing often times with young and vulnerable women away from home who saw him as completely trustworthy. My church happened to be the one in the network that he attended and it got too difficult for me to see him there every Sunday so I started going to other churches (well that and my church made an elder out of a guy who had divorced his wife and stuck her with all of the bills they had accumulated up to that point, and also left her with the two sons and no intention of paying any support - but I digress). This man never did leave campus ministry, although he ultimately went to New York to continue to do it (feel free to insert any pertinent jokes). (uh huh huh...I said 'insert'...)

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I remember going to church with my friend and her pastor bashing other religions and the members of the church shouting "hallelujah!!".

I must admit I was quite terrified.

 

I also remember when I came to church one day, I asked for some guidance. My "other" had cheated on me. He said just pray over it and things will be fine, that I was supposed to look up to him because he was male and to not question him.

 

I think I stopped going after that.

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The pastor of one church I attended would use information provided in confidential counseling sessions as fodder for sermons.

 

At this same church my sisters and I were involved in the music program. Before rehearsal one Sunday, the group was gathered for a "special meeting." My sisters were called on the carpet because they knew someone who MIGHT be smoking marijuana. They were threatened with expulsion from the group.

 

I heard one radio evangelist state that a local pastor's house should be burned down because he was "too liberal."

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Wasn't in church, but in Lutheran school. I was told that the Holocaust was God's punishment for the Jews for murdering His Son.

 

Lots of others things, too, but maybe I'll visit this again when I don't need to go to the bathroom so badly.

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It wasn't at church, but the pastor from a church, that my mom goes to, came in to my work and told me that I was going to hell. He said I was going to hell for living with a female friend. This is about 12 years ago when I was still in high school and we had moved in together with another friend due to a bad situation at each of our houses. She had her own room and my best friend and I shared the other bedroom, so everything was completly legit.

 

I never really believed, but I was appalled he and many others in our small town thought that it would be better for her to live with an abusive mother than to live with male room mates.

 

GreenXero

 

That's disgusting! My father (who I have cut all ties with) had his own fundy church and did the same to people there. Complete bullshit!

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My grandfather, the minister, used a bullwhip on my uncle as punishment. He is only 9 months older than me. This occured while we were around 10-14 years of age.

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