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I am forced to listen to christian radio alot lately, mainly because my mom enjoys it and ever since my car broke down I have needed her to drive me to School or most anywhere else. Half the time what is on these stations is annoying but unavoidable. Old drinking songs with lyrics changed to venerate god, some snotty christian rock band that sucks just as badly as any other half assed posers put on normal lables, but when focus on the family sponsered programming comes on that i simply have to listen and become very scared. Now the first thing I am going to say is that yes, I do consider myself a christian, though i will not go into the details of what I think and feel in this post, that is for another time. I am also a Lesbian, so I suppose that it often hits me a bit harder because of the undertones that are apparent in what he says, but I think with men like this around we all have cause for fear no matter of sexuality or spirituality.

 

Dr. Dobson to most seems harmless enough. He seems simply to preach about his views when it comes to child rearing from a christian standpoint, at least that is what he was once. Dobson advocates the ending of all abortions, Stripping the rights away from and dehumanizing of those with 'deviant sexual behaviors' and the regression of a womans role in modern society just to name a few things. These feelings have alwayse had their place in the mindset of mainstream christianity ever since it first became the tool of constantine, and probably even before that as you trace it back to the early church. The problem is that dobson has charisma. Dobson has the abilty to galvanize millions of people upon this one unifying ideology. This charisma by itself takes him from being the spokesman for those with this hateful mindset to the one leading it. it is the same behavior that drives cults, terrorists of any sort or ilk, and any socio-political establishment from the KKK and black panthers to the NAZI party.

 

Sadly, because of human nature his followers tend to avoid questioning him and simply follow blindly, using that common grain of hatred to build around as its core. it forms like a pearl, each layer of hatred building on the last, each new idea given spreaing over the whole of the people as they are driven further and further into a frenzy. For every new hatred fed his hold grows, his strength increases, and the world becomes a worse place. I could go on about how well his personality type matches up with that of adolph hitler on so many levels, the more you look at his works the more worried one may become about what a man with such a fanatical base of followers can do. I could also go on about how even the simple christian ideal of helping others is put up on the choping block in favor his agenda, to the point where he has refused to endorce any christian charity based on giving food to the starving in favor of working twards the goal of the dehumanization of homosexuals and the total abolition of abortion. I could go on about how he has helped manipulate world events for the worse just toget his way, even putting his power twards enforcing the controll of the right, if you look into it, it seems he played a major roll in bush being re elected.

 

but frankly There is just far too much to go into all at once. As a christian I worry about how such a man may influence my ability to hold my own views about god that contrast wtih his, as one whos lifestyle would be deemed 'unclean' by such a fanatic, I am afraid for my very life if he is allowed to continue, but most of all as a human being I live in fear of the idea of living in a world where one such as him has gotten his way, and I think we all know such fanatics will not stop untill they do or they are stoped.

 

There is one thing I would like to add though, four words that I think somone should bring to him, to show him just what kind of man he is

 

mene, mene, tekel, parsin.

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Welcome to the forums. His evil HQ, Focus on the Family is right near where I work. You are correct that he and Bush are buddy buddy. We can only hope that it'll come out that he's a closet homosexual or something like his good buddy Ted Haggard.

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Thank you for inviting me.

 

Hitler had Jewish blood, and most of the christian right seem to get busted for it. its just like back in high school sadly, most of the gay bashers and homophobes have their own issues and its easy to deal with them by making sure everyone knows they "cant be gay" because they are fighting agasint homosexuality. its sad what lengths one will go to just to hide their own feelings from themselves. Well mayby thats not the case but you know if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, chances are its a duck.

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Welcome to the forum :wave:

 

I recall my days listening to that nut, and many like him. I had stopped long before the W elections, but I can easily imagine whackjobs like Dobson having 24/7 hard-ons with the thought of a "good Xian" like W being in power. Visions of ropes for infidels and gays must have been dancing merrily in his head :angry:

 

Though, thankfully, I do think people like him are on the way out, and are mostly preaching to dwindling choirs. 'Tis a matter of time, a generation or so, before clowns like Dobson are relegated to the fringes of society, where people like him belong.

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Unless they can rise to absolute power. :repuke:

 

Oh, and... welcome Little Terra, greetings from Germany :)

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I think that Dobson and his ilk are secretly Dominionists. And that scares the hell out of me. They are gaining power daily and unless the so-called moderate to liberal Christians stand up to these bozos, America will truly become a "Christian" nation the likes of which will make the dark ages look kind.

 

Yes, I'm paranoid. I lived in Montgomery, AL for two years. 'Nuff said?

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Thank you for inviting me.

 

Hitler had Jewish blood, and most of the christian right seem to get busted for it.

 

Actually, there's no evidence to suggest that Hitler was Jewish.

 

Yes, I'm paranoid. I lived in Montgomery, AL for two years. 'Nuff said?

 

Not really, considering it's practically my hometown. What did you find so discouraging?

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Yes, I'm paranoid. I lived in Montgomery, AL for two years. 'Nuff said?

 

Not really, considering it's practically my hometown. What did you find so discouraging?

 

At risk of de-railing the thread, I'll just say that living in AL was the first time I'd ever come into contact with real, live what I call in-your-face-Christianity. Where a simple and polite refusal to discuss beliefs was not acceptable in the workplace. Where a street preacher harassed me and stalked me to the point that I eventually had to get an order of protection. Where a Darwin fish on the back of the car is apparently an invitation to shatter windows, flatten tires and leave a vile note on the seat. Where it is acceptable for co-workers to proseletyze verbally and by leaving scriptures and tracts all over a person's desk. And when one politely refuses such attentions or throws said paper in the trash, one is labeled that "Yankee Atheist," and complaints to management result in marginlization and eventually, firing.

 

And that's just the tip of the iceberg. I'm not even going to talk about the rampant sexism and racism I saw there.

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Welcome to the forum :wave:

 

I recall my days listening to that nut, and many like him. I had stopped long before the W elections, but I can easily imagine whackjobs like Dobson having 24/7 hard-ons with the thought of a "good Xian" like W being in power. Visions of ropes for infidels and gays must have been dancing merrily in his head :angry:

 

Though, thankfully, I do think people like him are on the way out, and are mostly preaching to dwindling choirs. 'Tis a matter of time, a generation or so, before clowns like Dobson are relegated to the fringes of society, where people like him belong.

 

Sadly, I disagree with that last statement. I feel That as soon as he steps down another will take his place, possably even more unstable. This is why I have a problem with turning christianity into something political like this. Yes yes i know ist been nothing but polotics for the past 1960 years or so, and i only say that long because im christian or else I would say longer. I dont think that jesus was politicly driven but rather socialy driven.... I also think that once he was gone his followers, at least some of them, helped to add the first layers of instatutionalism and once constantine picked it up, it was all over. the point remains though that the christian right has something that can be crushed in the political venue, though it can be acted on more totaly for them. They have the ability to galvanize with hate. if hitler had fallen out of power in any way other than a war, somone would have taken his place. if DOBSON is removed in any way other than being shown for the madman he is, the cycle will perpetuate.

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My cousions kids are raised by the Focus on the Family material that they get in the mail. Once well 7 years ago (8th Grade for me)my parents wouldn't let me read Harry Potter BECAUSE OF GOOD OLE MR. DOBSON!!!! My parents got curious when they saw the movie trailer at the theaters. My dad was thinking " Wow I am an idiot for not letting you read those" I finally read it and even got my parents into and that changed how they listend to Focus on the Family. My parents still categorized Christian, pretty much the religion is fading, it is taking time all it is now a prayer before dinner thats all now but who fucking cares.

 

I think these people their time is ending the era of this nutjobs are coming to a close, remember the Spogebob scandal from Mr. Dobosn, that changed a lot of idelogies and looked Christians look like fools.

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I used to listen to Dobson's radio program, especially the first few years that I was a Christian. I had liked it as long as he kept to psychology, family, and religious issues, but more and more he was introducing political topics. I didn't like the mix (I thought government was of this world, and Christians should just trust God to control things), so after awhile I stopped supporting him. One thing I noticed was his fixation with pornography. He used to be on some government panel examining porn, and I found it strange the way he talked about it. On one program, Dobson was going on and on about having to view pornography for his role on this commission, and even though he vigorously condemned the publications/videos he had to view, I had an eerie feeling that he was protesting excessively. As if he really was on this panel not to stamp out porn, but to get a chance to view it without condemnation. Like Little Terra and Vixentrox hinting about Dobson's being anti-homosexual meaning he might be "in the closet", maybe he's secretly addicted to porn?

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My experience with people that are excessively obsessed about something tend to have some kind of problem with it. I've seen it several times. Even for things like money, marriage, raising kids or whatever, the more they insist on how "wrong" it is, and always talk about it and won't let it go, they seem to do it to silence their feeling of guilt. It's not always the case, but its very likely Dobson secretly like the nekkid pix.

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To me Dobson is just another religious huckster who hit the "Ching Ching" Jackpot. Once you get millions of sheep to follow you, it's so simple to grab them by their ankles and shake the wads of cash from their pockets by way of his books and merchanidse. He is such an arrogant prick because when good fundy friend Sean Hannity adresses him or anyone else for that matter, it's always DR. Dobson. All I can say is that dude has something to hide, he just has to. I rememberr back in the 80's when all those religious dudes sat around for weeks screening porn. That just made me laugh my ass off. You know these dudes were going home and beating their meat.

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My experience with people that are excessively obsessed about something tend to have some kind of problem with it. I've seen it several times. Even for things like money, marriage, raising kids or whatever, the more they insist on how "wrong" it is, and always talk about it and won't let it go, they seem to do it to silence their feeling of guilt. It's not always the case, but its very likely Dobson secretly like the nekkid pix.

 

I could not agree more. I doubt dobson is even a christian because he beleves in jesus. People like this just want to be right, to be right and be assured that they are good by some set standard re-enforced into their head. Somone like dobson has it in his head that these things are all bad and because of that is most likely ashamed of the fact that he probalby looks up pics of guys when he is alone. That is the main problem I have with fundamentalist christianity, or fundamentalist anything for that matter. for them its not about being comfortable with yourself or coming to a personal understanding. These people dont want to face the issues they have because they dont think their fundamentalist ideals can stand up to it and part of being a fundamentalist is being reassured that your right and everyone else is worng if they disagree. its got nothing to do with christianity with people like dobson, if he grew up as any other faith he would be the same, dangerous.

 

Dobson is self assured, self centered and delusional. He has apparenlty pissed off EVERY christian charity that has any humanitarion M.O. because if ti dosent invovle rounding up homosexuals and throwing them into camps he dosent care. He probably "focuses on the family" because daddy beat him with a bible after sex and told him god hated him, and all of his ideals he preacehs are just so far from reality its funny. When I get home from my dads im getting out my bible, I have whole passages highlighted where jesus preaches agaisnt people who act like this guy, using faith to manipulate others to his agenda, he preaches strict doctrine without allowing for real life and practical issues. With dobson its simply a matter of megalomania, the man takes poor confused people who dont understand their faith and tells them that their problems are NOT just common every day life, that they are NOT ok, that they need HIM and what HE knows as if familys were not working out fine generation after generation. Thats why I dont go to church, Fundamentalism encorages people to be weak and follow the hiarchy, well mayby im wrong but from what I got from the new testiment jesus is saying the opposite. I know most here dont fully agree but the fact is even if im wrong, the man is not doing it for a love of christianity deep down but because he has his own issues, and christianity is one of the many things that works out as a tool to manipulate others.

 

on a quick side note, han, I LOVE your name there, Im probably one of the biggest Starwars fangirls you will ever meet.

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Why do they need to "examine" porn? :scratch: to know its bad? :lmao:

 

I wonder what Dobson is hiding, this is an excellent theory from past preachers, who condem gays to hell. I never heard of that porn thing either it is interesting a way to look at porn and not be considered a "sin".

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Ive read the verse that condems it, its taken totally out of context and is one of the many things probalby muddled up durring the dark/middle ages when I think the majority of things that are the most rediculous and out of place were added. They didnt even have porn back then, it was a verse about warning not to look at another guys wife and think about sleeping with her because then your really going to want to do it badly... and then that causes you problems because, well, yovue had sex with another guys wife and chances are even in this day and age he will hurt you. As for what Dobson is hiding its obvious, the man likes Gay sex and gay porn. hes probably a horrable father and if jesus were here now he would beat him so bad every one of the people following him would feel it.

 

Dobson is a sadistic, scheming, lying bastard who takes advantage of others who put their trust in him.thats what he is hiding, that he goes agasint everything christianity should stand for to make money and try and draw suspicion away from him as being a gay voyeristic bastard with an inferiority complex, at least thats my guess, if you disagree please feel free to voice your opinion.

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I actually think Dobsons credibilty has been broken after that whole spongebob is gay thing, I think he lost a lot of credibity that time. It did make news and everything and made Focus on the Family look like fools and that I think was a major backlash they needed from the media.

 

Yeah I agree Dobosn thinks he can "cure" gayness. I read articiles on his website he thinks of it as a disease. hence he is so obsessed with gayness and taking away their rights, (hence he must be gay).

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I used to think my liberal Catholic friend was crazy when she would say that she thinks Dobson is the Antichrist, but after researching about his xtian agenda last year I can see why she believes what she does about him. :HaHa:

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Hopefully Mr. Dobson's influence among fundiegelicals will erode further, following his pronouncement that he wasn't sure that Republican presidential hopeful Fred Thompson was "christian" enough. He had to qualify that later by saying Thompson wasn't "evangelical" enough. Anything the likes of Dobson, Robertson or Falwell can say or do to stick one foot in their big mouths while shooting themselves in the other is just fine by me.

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I am forced to listen to christian radio alot lately, mainly because my mom enjoys it and ever since my car broke down I have needed her to drive me to School or most anywhere else. Half the time what is on these stations is annoying but unavoidable. Old drinking songs with lyrics changed to venerate god, some snotty christian rock band that sucks just as badly as any other half assed posers put on normal lables, but when focus on the family sponsered programming comes on that i simply have to listen and become very scared. Now the first thing I am going to say is that yes, I do consider myself a christian, though i will not go into the details of what I think and feel in this post, that is for another time. I am also a Lesbian, so I suppose that it often hits me a bit harder because of the undertones that are apparent in what he says, but I think with men like this around we all have cause for fear no matter of sexuality or spirituality.

 

Dr. Dobson to most seems harmless enough. He seems simply to preach about his views when it comes to child rearing from a christian standpoint, at least that is what he was once. Dobson advocates the ending of all abortions, Stripping the rights away from and dehumanizing of those with 'deviant sexual behaviors' and the regression of a womans role in modern society just to name a few things. These feelings have alwayse had their place in the mindset of mainstream christianity ever since it first became the tool of constantine, and probably even before that as you trace it back to the early church. The problem is that dobson has charisma. Dobson has the abilty to galvanize millions of people upon this one unifying ideology. This charisma by itself takes him from being the spokesman for those with this hateful mindset to the one leading it. it is the same behavior that drives cults, terrorists of any sort or ilk, and any socio-political establishment from the KKK and black panthers to the NAZI party.

 

Sadly, because of human nature his followers tend to avoid questioning him and simply follow blindly, using that common grain of hatred to build around as its core. it forms like a pearl, each layer of hatred building on the last, each new idea given spreaing over the whole of the people as they are driven further and further into a frenzy. For every new hatred fed his hold grows, his strength increases, and the world becomes a worse place. I could go on about how well his personality type matches up with that of adolph hitler on so many levels, the more you look at his works the more worried one may become about what a man with such a fanatical base of followers can do. I could also go on about how even the simple christian ideal of helping others is put up on the choping block in favor his agenda, to the point where he has refused to endorce any christian charity based on giving food to the starving in favor of working twards the goal of the dehumanization of homosexuals and the total abolition of abortion. I could go on about how he has helped manipulate world events for the worse just toget his way, even putting his power twards enforcing the controll of the right, if you look into it, it seems he played a major roll in bush being re elected.

 

but frankly There is just far too much to go into all at once. As a christian I worry about how such a man may influence my ability to hold my own views about god that contrast wtih his, as one whos lifestyle would be deemed 'unclean' by such a fanatic, I am afraid for my very life if he is allowed to continue, but most of all as a human being I live in fear of the idea of living in a world where one such as him has gotten his way, and I think we all know such fanatics will not stop untill they do or they are stoped.

 

There is one thing I would like to add though, four words that I think somone should bring to him, to show him just what kind of man he is

 

mene, mene, tekel, parsin.

 

 

I agree with everything you've written except the part that compares the Black Panther party to The KKK and the Nazi party. Having studied all three groups I would say that mentioning the panthers alongside the Nazis and Klan is the equivalent of comparing a head cold to Cancer.

 

Be that as it may Dobson does frighten me as well. I would compare him to Hitler. He is extremely charismatic, and has built his platform based upon the degradation of others. Good people can be made to do horrible things if they are brainwashed long enough. And I don't know a fundie that isn't brainwashed.

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