Amethyst Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 I am willing to bet that nobody has as of yet gone through the entire bible and found all the logical errors or unethical things or inconsistencites. Or they may have, but I'm also willing to bet that they haven't put it into a spreadsheet in an easy-to-read format for people. So here is my effort so far. I found an electronic copy of the King James Version in an "Ask Sam" database format, which is great for doing computer stuff. I am not entirely sure they have all of it in the database, but we'll see. I got it off a Christian site, which is the ironic thing. Constructive feedback is welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbie Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 Looks really great. Will probably take a long time and a lot of dedication though. I've started going through a copy of the Bible (New Jerusalem Version) with two highlighters, one for good stuff and one for bad stuff. It's taking a while... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amethyst Posted April 1, 2007 Author Share Posted April 1, 2007 Looks really great. Will probably take a long time and a lot of dedication though. I've started going through a copy of the Bible (New Jerusalem Version) with two highlighters, one for good stuff and one for bad stuff. It's taking a while... There is already the Skeptic's Annotated Bible, if you just want to look up the bad things. However, I'm making them in a chart format for people to see easily. I don't think Skeptics does that. They do a good job of listing stuff, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbie Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 There is already the Skeptic's Annotated Bible, if you just want to look up the bad things. However, I'm making them in a chart format for people to see easily. I don't think Skeptics does that. They do a good job of listing stuff, though. Yeah, SAB is quite useful. But I wanted to actually read through the entire Bible myself, as there are still parts I am unfamiliar with or need to re-read...also I wanted to have a more personal take on the good and bad, and have a highlighted copy to hand in case I ever need it in some sort of argument/uni assignment/whatever. But the spreadsheet idea is excellent...makes it really easy to follow and quantify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGJ@ReligionisBullshit Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 There is already the Skeptic's Annotated Bible, if you just want to look up the bad things. However, I'm making them in a chart format for people to see easily. I don't think Skeptics does that. They do a good job of listing stuff, though. Yeah, SAB is quite useful. But I wanted to actually read through the entire Bible myself, as there are still parts I am unfamiliar with or need to re-read...also I wanted to have a more personal take on the good and bad, and have a highlighted copy to hand in case I ever need it in some sort of argument/uni assignment/whatever. But the spreadsheet idea is excellent...makes it really easy to follow and quantify. Reading the entire Bible is the #1 reason I left Christianity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amethyst Posted April 2, 2007 Author Share Posted April 2, 2007 Reading the entire Bible is the #1 reason I left Christianity. One of mine also. I also had another idea. To be fair, I should also point out the ethical things in it (e.g. the few parts that say to be nice to others). That way, we can easily see if the unethical parts outweigh it. I'd bet they do. Then the fundies can't say I was totally unfair, although they probably will anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGJ@ReligionisBullshit Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 Reading the entire Bible is the #1 reason I left Christianity. One of mine also. I also had another idea. To be fair, I should also point out the ethical things in it (e.g. the few parts that say to be nice to others). That way, we can easily see if the unethical parts outweigh it. I'd bet they do. Then the fundies can't say I was totally unfair, although they probably will anyway. The unethicalness was mainly Old Testament, much bigger than the New Testament. It would be interesting to see exactly how many contradictions there are between the Old and New. Two very different dieties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbie Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 The unethicalness was mainly Old Testament, much bigger than the New Testament. It would be interesting to see exactly how many contradictions there are between the Old and New. Two very different dieties. Though I agree that the OT god is much more clearly evil, I think it would be a mistake to say that the NT is actually completely better. I would doubt that the ethical or sensible parts even of the NT outweigh the unethical and illogical ones. Even in the gospels, though we see Jesus on the whole being extremely good, he occasionally comes out with something like, "I have not come to bring peace, but a sword," or, "You will be cast out into darkness where there will be weeping and much gnashing of teeth." Then, of course, is the whole idea that Jesus needs to be tortured and killed for 'salvation'. Though his humility and selflessness in the face of such suffering is, imo, highly admirable and even inspirtational, the whole mindset that forms the backdrop of his death is appalling. Add to the NT equation two important factors, and I'm fairly certain it tips the balance away from the generally very positive gospels: Paul and Revelation. Paul's soteriology is so insane it makes the first few epistles almost unreadable, and his Christianity is so puritanical he could almost give most modern-day Baptists a run for their money. Having never done LSD I'm not entirely sure just how shitfaced John was when he wrote the Book of Revelation. But if the hallucinations are generally that barbaric and evil, I'll stick with beer and weed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amethyst Posted April 3, 2007 Author Share Posted April 3, 2007 Though I agree that the OT god is much more clearly evil, I think it would be a mistake to say that the NT is actually completely better. I would doubt that the ethical or sensible parts even of the NT outweigh the unethical and illogical ones. Even in the gospels, though we see Jesus on the whole being extremely good, he occasionally comes out with something like, "I have not come to bring peace, but a sword," or, "You will be cast out into darkness where there will be weeping and much gnashing of teeth." Then, of course, is the whole idea that Jesus needs to be tortured and killed for 'salvation'. Though his humility and selflessness in the face of such suffering is, imo, highly admirable and even inspirtational, the whole mindset that forms the backdrop of his death is appalling. Good points. The whole mindset of torturing and killing someone is very unethical. It'll be interesting to see, if I actually manage to complete this project, the number of unthethical verses. I wonder if it's ever been documented before. I did a google search but couldn't find anything, although the skeptic's bible comes close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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